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Old 24-06-2014, 18:50
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It's kind of amusing to read the comments of people getting worked up because they "don't get" the purpose of something they'll never buy. I also won't be buying it, but not because i can't see the point or "don't get" it, but simply because i can't afford £1k on it.
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Old 24-06-2014, 21:07
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You're assuming it will be successful. There is no guarantee of that as yet. Of course I can see the potential but it still needs to have a good UX. The latest model I've seen are still BT paired with your phone so that's still doing most of the grunt work.
I think this is the crux. I doubt you'll ever get a completely standalone unit, though, because to have internal storage, battery, wireless radio, headphones, microphone, CPU, camera and projector small enough to be inconspicuous on your face is pushing not just the current path of technology but also what is conceivable.

However, there's no reason why a companion unit similar to the current model can't soon fit into something that clips almost unnoticed onto a glasses frame is definitely doable.

I think there's also a gulf between those who wear glasses and those who don't. I've worn prescription glasses my entire life, and so it doesn't feel much of a leap for me to wear technology in their place instead. But if you don't, I can see why it would seem to look ludicrous.

Sadly, as the technology stands it doesn't work with astigmatism. I'm also virtually blind in my right eye, which is where they're putting the monitor at the moment, though obviously that's easy to fix.
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Old 24-06-2014, 21:47
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Im guessing that would be possible.

On the flip side you could stream the event, share it on social media, and gain constructive feedback throughout

why would anyone NOT want Glass to be a success ???
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Old 24-06-2014, 22:16
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I see the main reason people are getting worked up about is the fact it can record.

But seeing how people get their phones out and record people dying on the roadside from car accidents/stabbings etc I really dont see the problem.

And as for people saying perverts/kiddle fiddlers will use glass, no they wont, they will use (sorry they already use) covert cameras that are so tiny they are undetectable!!
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Old 24-06-2014, 22:27
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I loathe the argument that basically says "bad man might use this, so we shouldn't have it".

Child porn has really taken off since the internet, it's now possible to stockpile thousands of images without leaving your house. Let's switch it off.
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Old 25-06-2014, 18:04
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Wearing Google Glass is a good way to get shunned socially. Whose going to want to interact with someone that could be recording them and even uploading the footage to the net? Not me that's for sure.
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Old 26-06-2014, 00:18
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I'd love one but I wouldn't want to pay £1000 for it. I'll wait 'til it comes down in price.
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Old 26-06-2014, 00:26
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Imagine being able to video your childs first steps without having to reach for a camera or your phone. Just voice activated video.

Clearly just for geeks.
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Old 26-06-2014, 11:32
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Wearing Google Glass is a good way to get shunned socially. Whose going to want to interact with someone that could be recording them and even uploading the footage to the net? Not me that's for sure.
Do you know how many CCTV cameras there are about, watching you, probably right now ? and what about all those people around you holding phones to their ears but who are obviously actually videoing you


I suggest that you either:

1) watch out the for signs that the person wearing glass is recording you
or
2) dont do anything stupid enough to justify being loaded up onto the internet

if you shun your friends simply because they decide to be an early-adopter then, to be fair, they will probably be be better off
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Old 26-06-2014, 18:26
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Do you know how many CCTV cameras there are about, watching you, probably right now ? and what about all those people around you holding phones to their ears but who are obviously actually videoing you


I suggest that you either:

1) watch out the for signs that the person wearing glass is recording you
or
2) dont do anything stupid enough to justify being loaded up onto the internet

if you shun your friends simply because they decide to be an early-adopter then, to be fair, they will probably be be better off
CCTV doesn't get uploaded to the net by random people though (not that I agree with the amount of it we have in this country).

If a stranger pointed a phone at my and started filming I'd be walking in the opposite direction and I'd be doing the same with someone with GG on. I certainly wouldn't be entering to any kind of conversation or interaction with them.

Tbh I've never heard of or witnessed anyone holding a phone to their ear and filming. It seems like it would be a very poor way to film anyone, unless they keep spinning in a circle to get the footage they want, but hey maybe I've been filmed loads of times by these 'pretend to be on a call and film people' types
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Old 26-06-2014, 23:01
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Wearing Google Glass is a good way to get shunned socially. Whose going to want to interact with someone that could be recording them and even uploading the footage to the net? Not me that's for sure.
Its not like everyone has their Iphones out recording anything and everything and uploading the footage to youtwitbook is it LOL
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Old 27-06-2014, 07:01
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Its not like everyone has their Iphones out recording anything and everything and uploading the footage to youtwitbook is it LOL
It's obvious when someone is pointing a phone at you though. With GG, are they recording or not? If they are what are they going to do with the footage?

It's the uncertainty that makes GG different to phones and cameras in general.

If for example I was talking to someone in a pub and half way through they started filming me on their phone the conversation would end pretty quickly. With GG I don't know if they're filming or not, so the conversation would never even start.
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Old 27-06-2014, 09:45
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It's obvious when someone is pointing a phone at you though. With GG, are they recording or not? If they are what are they going to do with the footage?

It's the uncertainty that makes GG different to phones and cameras in general.

If for example I was talking to someone in a pub and half way through they started filming me on their phone the conversation would end pretty quickly. With GG I don't know if they're filming or not, so the conversation would never even start.
Unless you're blind to flashing red lights above someone's eye, then you can tell perfectly well when Google Glass is recording.

Of course, the cry of "oh balls, my battery is dead" five minutes later is also a giveaway.

Also, if they're your friend they're probably not going to want to surreptitiously record you. Even when people know I've taken a photo, I ask before I upload it anywhere. That's just manners. If someone would record a semi-private conversation with you and share it, then they're not much of a friend.
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Old 27-06-2014, 12:06
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so many misconceptions about what Google Glass does and what its for.

Its more about having a screen you can get information on than recording photos and videos.

For some reason those that haven't bothered to read up think its prime purpose is to be constantly (or regularly) recording everything you see and uploading it on to Youtube

I'd be more worried that the person I'm speaking to is surreptitiously
checking the football scores or Facebook instead of listening to me
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Old 27-06-2014, 13:49
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Unless you're blind to flashing red lights above someone's eye, then you can tell perfectly well when Google Glass is recording.

Of course, the cry of "oh balls, my battery is dead" five minutes later is also a giveaway.

Also, if they're your friend they're probably not going to want to surreptitiously record you. Even when people know I've taken a photo, I ask before I upload it anywhere. That's just manners. If someone would record a semi-private conversation with you and share it, then they're not much of a friend.
I'm not worried about friends. I'm worried about strangers. As I say I wouldn't want to enter in to a conversation with someone that could be recording me.

ETA: What flashing red lights?
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:14
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I'm not worried about friends. I'm worried about strangers. As I say I wouldn't want to enter in to a conversation with someone that could be recording me.

ETA: What flashing red lights?
not quite literal flashing red lights, but metaphorically:

http://googleglassmommy.blogspot.co....vade-your.html
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:27
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not quite literal flashing red lights, but metaphorically:

http://googleglassmommy.blogspot.co....vade-your.html
Ah, you mean the white reflection? The one that's there even when it's not filming? The one that's there when glass is being used for other stuff besides filming?

That just tells me glass is being used for a myriad of different things. Filming being one of them.
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:30
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Ah, you mean the white reflection? The one that's there even when it's not filming? The one that's there when glass is being used for other stuff besides filming?

That just tells me glass is being used for a myriad of different things. Filming being one of them.
Most of the time the screen is off. So its unlikely to be showing if you're having a conversation with someone and they're not filming. See also the bit about how to start filming (same article). not exactly discreet is it...
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Old 27-06-2014, 14:34
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Most of the time the screen is off. So its unlikely to be showing if you're having a conversation with someone and they're not filming. See also the bit about how to start filming (same article). not exactly discreet is it...
Well speaking to the thing isn't very discreet I admit. Tapping a button isn't very noticeable though. Also filming can be started long before someone gets near.

Also looking online the reflection is virtually invisible to others in sunlight.

Your flashing light idea is a good one though. Something that only happens when GG is filming. Then there would be no argument and I could just avoid people with the light flashing on their GG.
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Old 27-06-2014, 21:26
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I really can't wait to see the first self-obsessed, posing tits walking around wearing them.
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Old 28-06-2014, 11:23
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It's kind of amusing to read the comments of people getting worked up because they "don't get" the purpose of something they'll never buy.
Well, I'm certainly not worked up about it. But, having seen an excellent documentary concerning Google, and realising that they are nowhere near as altruistic as presented, I am against Google Glass. For exactly the same reason I'm against all intrusive uncontrolled surveillance tech. Not, because I'm up to no good, but because of a little old fashioned thing called privacy.

At the very least GG should be licensed, and Google should be forced to develop/ provide on demand a means for any public place or private individual to block local recordings of themselves or their premises. Is this ever likely to happen? I think there's more chance of England producing a decent football team!
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Old 28-06-2014, 18:08
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Had a go with glass today. Concept is better than existing implementation, but if it wasn't a grand each, I'd be tempted.
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Old 28-06-2014, 18:10
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Well, I'm certainly not worked up about it. But, having seen an excellent documentary concerning Google, and realising that they are nowhere near as altruistic as presented, I am against Google Glass. For exactly the same reason I'm against all intrusive uncontrolled surveillance tech. Not, because I'm up to no good, but because of a little old fashioned thing called privacy.

At the very least GG should be licensed, and Google should be forced to develop/ provide on demand a means for any public place or private individual to block local recordings of themselves or their premises. Is this ever likely to happen? I think there's more chance of England producing a decent football team!
Nutty. Would you try and license cameras and phones too? How about CCTV?
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Old 29-06-2014, 11:42
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I really can't wait to see the first self-obsessed, posing tits walking around wearing them.
[sigh] i remember people saying exactly the same thing about these 'new fangled mobile phones' ......

(post mentally bookmarked for review in 10 years time when wearables are 'the norm')

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Old 29-06-2014, 19:20
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Nutty. Would you try and license cameras and phones too? How about CCTV?
CCTV is already licenced

http://www.sia.homeoffice.gov.uk/Pag...sing-cctv.aspx
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