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Old 25-06-2014, 13:05
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Whatever happens to Suarez Uruguay have come out winners, as I think it's highly unlikely they would have scored if not for that incident.
It's also helped cover up Italy going out in the First Round for the second World Cup running.
The biting incident and Uruguay's goal were completely unrelated. There's no reason to believe that Uruguay wouldn't have scored anyway.

Suarez deserves a lengthy ban but its silly for people to talk about Uruguay being thrown out.

In terms of affecting the result and progression to the next round his handball against Ghana in the last WC had a far bigger impact and Uruguay didn't get disqualified for that (when they should have IMO), so no reason to believe they should be for this.
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Old 25-06-2014, 13:13
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The biting incident and Uruguay's goal were completely unrelated. There's no reason to believe that Uruguay wouldn't have scored anyway.

Suarez deserves a lengthy ban but its silly for people to talk about Uruguay being thrown out.

In terms of affecting the result and progression to the next round his handball against Ghana in the last WC had a far bigger impact and Uruguay didn't get disqualified for that (when they should have IMO), so no reason to believe they should be for this.
Ghana only have themselves to blame for not winning that game, first they missed the penalty, then they failed to score against 10 men in extra time before finally losing the penalty shoot out.
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Old 25-06-2014, 14:01
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Ghana only have themselves to blame for not winning that game, first they missed the penalty, then they failed to score against 10 men in extra time before finally losing the penalty shoot out.
The handball and penalty were in the last minute of EXTRA TIME. The penalty they missed was effectively the last kick of the game, and Ghana had no chance to come back against ten men. Suarez being sent off had no negative impact on Uruguay's chances other than him being inelligible to take a penalty in the shoot out.

Ghana were unfairly cheated out of being the first African team to make the semi-finals.
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Old 25-06-2014, 14:11
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The handball and penalty were in the last minute of EXTRA TIME. The penalty they missed was effectively the last kick of the game, and Ghana had no chance to come back against ten men. Suarez being sent off had no negative impact on Uruguay's chances other than him being inelligible to take a penalty in the shoot out.

Ghana were unfairly cheated out of being the first African team to make the semi-finals.
Totally disagree. I don't see how it's any different than if someone brought down a Ghana player through on goal in the last minute and was sent off. It's not cheating, it's a foul and a red card. Ghana had the opportunity to win but missed the penalty.
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Old 25-06-2014, 15:18
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Sad way for the great Pirlo to bow out of the World Cup, still, a Winners medal in 2006 and a Runners Up medal at Euro 2012 is more than most players will ever have, unless they are Spanish of course.
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Old 25-06-2014, 15:30
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Sad way for the great Pirlo to bow out of the World Cup, still, a Winners medal in 2006 and a Runners Up medal at Euro 2012 is more than most players will ever have, unless they are Spanish of course.
Great player. Truly world class with all the trophies and medals he has won.
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Old 25-06-2014, 15:31
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Ha ha you can talk - where are England now - oh yes in England cause they always play crap at least Italy are World Class and everyone knows it
1990s Italy.....
Semi Final 1990, won third place play off
Finalist 1994
Quarter Final 1998
Lost only on penalties. Not a bad record, eh?
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Old 25-06-2014, 17:11
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1990s Italy.....
Semi Final 1990, won third place play off
Finalist 1994
Quarter Final 1998
Lost only on penalties. Not a bad record, eh?
I'd rather watch the Italians play any day of the week than sorry England.Italy have an outstanding record.England are overrated.
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Old 25-06-2014, 17:22
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The biting incident and Uruguay's goal were completely unrelated. There's no reason to believe that Uruguay wouldn't have scored anyway.

Suarez deserves a lengthy ban but its silly for people to talk about Uruguay being thrown out.

In terms of affecting the result and progression to the next round his handball against Ghana in the last WC had a far bigger impact and Uruguay didn't get disqualified for that (when they should have IMO), so no reason to believe they should be for this.
I'm not one to go OTT.
I agree with your post. The incidents weren't connected.
Suarez should be banned from this world cup and after the tournament FIFA should have a proper investigation/tribunal and give him a lengthy ban.

Not the rest of Uruguays squad that Suarez did something monumentally stupid, although it's bad form of Ramirez to try to hide the bite marks and the comments from the manager and the captain defending Suarez.
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Old 25-06-2014, 17:23
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Totally disagree. I don't see how it's any different than if someone brought down a Ghana player through on goal in the last minute and was sent off. It's not cheating, it's a foul and a red card. Ghana had the opportunity to win but missed the penalty.
I think it's cheating. Trying to tackle a player and mistiming it is unfortunate, or even possibly stupid by the player who does it.

An outfield player deliberately stopping the ball with his hand to deny a goal is on a whole different level.
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Old 25-06-2014, 17:56
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I think it's cheating. Trying to tackle a player and mistiming it is unfortunate, or even possibly stupid by the player who does it.

An outfield player deliberately stopping the ball with his hand to deny a goal is on a whole different level.
I still disagree. You make it sound like he had time to contemplate what he was going to do. It wasn't a conscious decision to cheat or even to handle it. Just an instinctive reaction.
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Old 25-06-2014, 18:01
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I still disagree. You make it sound like he had time to contemplate what he was going to do. It wasn't a conscious decision to cheat or even to handle it. Just an instinctive reaction.
There are some instingtive reactions football players not should have.
One is to deliberately handball to deny a goal.
Another is biting people.
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