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Old 24-06-2014, 15:45
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She is just trying so hard to gain awards all the time. So much so that she is changing Emmerdale to suit her own stupid vision. First of all I thought she was a great producer and don't get me wrong she is much better than Blackburn but all her stories involve stupid pantomime stories which are supposed to be funny and silly childish gangs and guns which are not in anyway interesting. There's no need for all these "gritty autumn" stories. Why can't we just have good gritty stories throughout the year instead of one particular month. With the recent news that a "Villain" is joining the dales I have a vision there are going to be more boring murders and stunts on the way. Its just getting really dire and dry now Kate, give it up while you can. They are trying to recreate the Cameron storyline so much.

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Old 24-06-2014, 15:53
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She is just trying so hard to gain awards all the time.
so are all the soaps.

So much so that she is changing Emmerdale to suit her own stupid vision.
as do all producers.

First of all I thought she was a great producer and don't get me wrong she is much better than Blackburn but all her stories involve stupid pantomime stories which are supposed to be funny and silly childish gangs and guns which are not in anyway interesting.
There have been many serious storylines such as Val's HIV & Priya's pregnancy and eating disorder followed by Priya's arranged marriage which I think is another excellent storyline idea. Plus we have Donna's illness & Andy accident coming up. We currently only have one 'gangsta' in the form of Ross and even that's not done to the death, IMO.

There's no need for all these "gritty autumn" stories. Why can't we just have good gritty stories throughout the year instead of one particular month.
Autumn is a season and not a month. Furthermore much as EastEnders have their whopper storylines on Christmas Emmerdale chooses to go with their birthday month which happens to be October, I think this great as there are only so many big Christmas days a soap can have without become borning and predictable. Same old every year.

With the recent news that a "Villain" is joining the dales I have a vision there are going to be more boring murders and stunts on the way. Its just getting really dire and dry now Kate, give it up while you can. They are trying to recreate the Cameron storyline so much.
The jury is still out on the new villain, we will need to wait to hear/see more.

In conclusion, I disagree.

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Old 24-06-2014, 15:53
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Perhaps she feels that the soap needs a bad boy now that Cain is mellowing as he gets older? I honestly thought that Ross was shoe horned in to fill fill that role but it looks like this newcomer is going to be worse than him!

If Kate Oates IS chasing awards then she's onto a loser as ED always seems to lag behind when it comes to them and if the Woolie siege/murdering Cameron couldn't pull off best soap for them last last year I don't know what could No offence to Hollyoaks but it has millions less viewers than ED and managed to win the best soap award this year even though ED (again IMO) had a vintage year. For some reason the public as a whole just don't vote for it in enough numbers to matter
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Old 24-06-2014, 15:56
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No, she doesn't.
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Old 24-06-2014, 15:58
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For some reason the public as a whole just don't vote for it in enough numbers to matter
If you look on the Emmerdale website and a recent item they ran with the viewers and fans: sending in wedding photos to go with the double wedding episode, it's clear to see why, Emmerdale has an older demographic. Fans, if they do vote, will probably only do it once. I'm not wishing to get into an argument about fans voting on mass or say that no ED fans do that but it's probably, well certainly, much less than fans for other soaps who have a younger demographic.
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Old 24-06-2014, 16:14
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Well, that is just wonderful !! Post a Kate Hate thread on her Birthday!! Way to go, You must be pretty chuffed with yourself OP!!
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Old 24-06-2014, 16:24
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To be fair though.. she is lovely to look at.

Thing is she's doing her job... more awards = bigger audiences = more ad revenue.
I actually think she's trying to get the show back to where it was. More than any other soap Emmerdale always had light and dark stories. The lighthearted stuff running parallel to and offering balance to the darker storylines.
The problem she's having is the "light" stories are falling into caricatures rather than just portraying "normal" stuff like they used to.

I also think there's an over reliance on the Dingle buffoonery.
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Old 24-06-2014, 16:30
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I do so wish DS would impose a moratorium on "X must go" threads. They add nothing to the sum of human understanding and are usually written by jealous, bitter buggers sitting at home in front of the TV asserting that "I could do better than that".

But, of course, they can't and never could.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:01
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Perhaps she feels that the soap needs a bad boy now that Cain is mellowing as he gets older? I honestly thought that Ross was shoe horned in to fill fill that role but it looks like this newcomer is going to be worse than him!

If Kate Oates IS chasing awards then she's onto a loser as ED always seems to lag behind when it comes to them and if the Woolie siege/murdering Cameron couldn't pull off best soap for them last last year I don't know what could No offence to Hollyoaks but it has millions less viewers than ED and managed to win the best soap award this year even though ED (again IMO) had a vintage year. For some reason the public as a whole just don't vote for it in enough numbers to matter
It's simple why HO won, multiple voting kids setting up fake emails so they can vote as many times as they want. Somebody tweeted the actor who played Ste from HO and said he should have about 9,000 votes and he replies thanks.

I've said before that the BSA are not about who should win but's it's more to do with popularity and who has more fans.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:04
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She's not doing great but she's not doing bad for me the worst is this whole Adam and James storyline. For me these are just background actors not one's who should be the lead storyline.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:04
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To be fair though.. she is lovely to look at.
She is certainly that. She should cast herself in her show, I would.
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Old 24-06-2014, 17:44
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The new character is a high probability of the new owner of the Home Farm.

My scenario is that the Maceys losing everything when the truth about the fire is revealed and Declan is going to prison. Charity survives without a court order, but is despised by everyone in the village because they all know about her actions. She is left penniless and homeless woman who nearly losing custody of her son.
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:05
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I agree that she has some really good ideas and the stories start very interesting but then they manage to turn into a farce and then I switch off ..... it's such shame.. good actors but I feel they are being let down as well...
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:17
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I agree with almost every single post on here apart from the OP's.

ED is doing fine and I enjoy it a lot. There's been a lot of excellent stuff since Ms Oates took the helm and there appears to be a lot more good stuff coming up.
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:20
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As long as she makes Ross get his top off, i'm happy with her.
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Old 24-06-2014, 18:30
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As long as she makes Ross get his top off, i'm happy with her.
Agreed.
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:42
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At first, I though 'YAWN - not another "new villain". But then I thought, maybe this new villain will turn out to be

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That *would* be interesting, and a logical addition to the cast.
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:50
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What's wrong with casting a new villain?
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Old 24-06-2014, 20:52
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At first, I though 'YAWN - not another "new villain". But then I thought, maybe this new villain will turn out to be

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That *would* be interesting, and a logical addition to the cast.
Good God no, not more of them!!
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Old 24-06-2014, 23:02
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Perhaps she feels that the soap needs a bad boy now that Cain is mellowing as he gets older? I honestly thought that Ross was shoe horned in to fill fill that role but it looks like this newcomer is going to be worse than him!

If Kate Oates IS chasing awards then she's onto a loser as ED always seems to lag behind when it comes to them and if the Woolie siege/murdering Cameron couldn't pull off best soap for them last last year I don't know what could No offence to Hollyoaks but it has millions less viewers than ED and managed to win the best soap award this year even though ED (again IMO) had a vintage year. For some reason the public as a whole just don't vote for it in enough numbers to matter
I know it may sound rather biased as an ED fan, but as l've said before for some reason in this country the dominant perception of ED (sleepy/farm) doesn't look like it will ever change regardless of what quality the show produces. Sure, it may win more underground awards but just not the big mainstream one (although, i still hope).
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Old 25-06-2014, 00:24
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Oh yes she does.

I agree with every word of the OP except for the bit about KO being better than Blackburn.
The only thing going for KO is the way she finished of Blackburns Cameron story. Blackburn showed with the live show just what he was capable of, so i see no reason why he couldn't have finished off the Cameron story as well as KO. She finished off what was already set in place many many months before she took over. When left to her 100% her own material she has turned out to be a complete and utter disaster. From the appalling handled Amy departure right up to this laughable Adam and James story. In between she's ramped up the camp and the ham comedy and made the cast look like a third rate bunch of panto actors.
Just look at the viewing figures. They say it all about what she has done to the show.
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Old 25-06-2014, 01:16
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I do so wish DS would impose a moratorium on "X must go" threads. They add nothing to the sum of human understanding and are usually written by jealous, bitter buggers sitting at home in front of the TV asserting that "I could do better than that".

But, of course, they can't and never could.
They do. Axing threads are forbidden.

Oh yes she does.

I agree with every word of the OP except for the bit about KO being better than Blackburn.
The only thing going for KO is the way she finished of Blackburns Cameron story. Blackburn showed with the live show just what he was capable of, so i see no reason why he couldn't have finished off the Cameron story as well as KO. She finished off what was already set in place many many months before she took over. When left to her 100% her own material she has turned out to be a complete and utter disaster. From the appalling handled Amy departure right up to this laughable Adam and James story. In between she's ramped up the camp and the ham comedy and made the cast look like a third rate bunch of panto actors.
Just look at the viewing figures. They say it all about what she has done to the show.
BIB He did, he left with the ending in place, and anything else he did that was unpopular was because he vowed to carry out Gavin Blyth's plans and did just that. I think, left to his own devices, he'd have been good. He worked on Emmerdale as a scriptwriter and editor for many years previously.
Kate Oates is even worse than the dire Lets-Make-It-Like-Hollyoaks Gavin Blyth.
Saying that, I don't like SB at all on Corrie. I've stopped watching it, but I suppose he doesn't know it like he did Emmerdale, where he wasn't given the chance,as producer, to show it.
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Old 25-06-2014, 03:16
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Kate ROCKS! end of.
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Old 25-06-2014, 06:52
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The new character is a high probability of the new owner of the Home Farm.

My scenario is that the Maceys losing everything when the truth about the fire is revealed and Declan is going to prison. Charity survives without a court order, but is despised by everyone in the village because they all know about her actions. She is left penniless and homeless woman who nearly losing custody of her son.
That sounds interesting, Allasdair; I hope somebody on the show picks it up.
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Old 25-06-2014, 07:31
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Kate ROCKS! end of.
Agreed.

Plus, Kate Oates doesn't seem to be ramming certain characters into every episode. The Maceys, Sharmas, Dingles, Bartons, Pollards have all had stories this year but at least she hasn't on one particular family/character in every episode.

For Blackburn, he focused too much on Debbie especially with Sarah's illness, Cameron's affair, the murders, her revenge on Chas, and dealing with dodgy booze.

Long live Kate Oates.
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