He has done an absolutely terrible job so far.

And the bad new is he's in for at least another two years.

What is the point in investing my time in people who see failure and do nothing to change it?

In what way has he done a terrible job?

Worst England performance at a World Cup since 1958?

He played Gerrard, Henderson, Rooney, Welbeck & Sterling all out of position. How is that not getting him the sack?

We haven't beaten Italy in a competitive match since the 1970s and have never beaten Uruguay in a competitive match.

That makes pretty much every England manager crap at their job, apparently.

People need to stop focusing on the manager and understand the real reasons for our failings in this tournament... and all the others.

I thought Gerrard and Henderson played centre midfield together for Liverpool?

and he wasn't on the pitch. But it's always easier to cry sack the manager isn't it.

If we're playing shit in the first few Euro qualifiers and it looks like we might not qualify then I would be thinking of a change but until them he needs to get the new breed in playing together.

Neither Gerrard or Henderson are defensive midfielders, which is how they were used. Gerrard's tackling is piss poor and always has been. Same goes for Lampard.

Are you sure Gerrard has not been playing deeper for Liverpool in the last season?
I'm pretty sure the pundits have mentioned that.

I'll admit that playing Rooney on the left was baffling to say the least and I would definitely criticise him for that.

It almost feels like Hodgson doesn't really know where to play the likes of Gerrard, but feels he has to have him in the team somewhere. It's the same with Rooney. I'm hoping once Gerrard retires or is dropped, Roy will have a little more freedom to try different things.

Let's face it, Welbeck and Sterling wouldn't have been in the team had Ox and Walcott been fit.

I was always happy to write this World Cup off. The squad is weak and unbalanced. Roy has two years to sort this out and basically build a new team from scratch. I will judge him by his first couple of qualifying games for the euros.

If it was solely the manager's fault then England would have a better record with previous managers.

If it was solely the players fault then England would do better in other tournaments with a different set of players.

Conclusion - the problem(*) is bigger than the manager or the players.

I don't rate Hodgson tactically but I don't think Bruce, Pardew, Allardyce or Pearce would do any better and the real top coaches like Hiddink, Van Gaal, Guardiola, Simeone, Mourinho, etc are unlikely to take the job.

(* If it is a problem to be qualifying for the world cup finals and then losing out to better teams. Other nations have bigger problems than that but don't have the same sense of entitlement.)

Uruguay managed to beat Italy, Costa Rica beat them both. We have reached at least the last 16 in 7 of the previous 8 World Cups. Roy has failed miserably, he should fall on his sword like Prandelli has.

But we do have a better record with previous teams and managers. This is our worst failure at a world cup since 1958. Actually, to be fair to Walter Winterbottom and the 1958 team, they at least managed three draws.

That second paragraph is bang on the money. But he should have the conviction to drop them if he has eyes set on a system that doesn't suit them. But he's too weak for that.

He also lacks conviction in pretty much anything.

I honestly get the impression that Roy thinks if they play for a big club then they must be good. Smalling, Johnson & Welbeck for example. Welbeck and Johnson should NOT be in his first XI and Smalling shouldn't even be there.

And I'm not saying its all his fault. There are many many more problems.

You have worse records too - Taylor in 92/94 (did he have 2 major tournaments?). Keegan's England weren't great either. I forget how far they got - I think Romania knocked them out the groups in the Euros? Capello might have got through the groups in 2010 but they were absolutely dire. You are only looking at one side of things. (And I'm by no means a Hodgson fan!).

From the outside I see England as a top 16 side but not top 8. You'll usually qualify, then either lose in groups, last 16 or occasionally last 8. On the odd occasion you might go further.

That's not that bad a record compared to the other 206 nations with football teams.

Roy has not failed. He has simply replicated what has gone before.

We cannot beat the top teams in the world - especially when we have the weakest squad we've had in a very long time.

Our group had two teams in it that are better than us now and historically, and another who have surprised everybody. We were never likely to get out of the group we were in.

To be fair, you could level the same criticism against everyone who has managed England in modern times.

Regardless of who was managing England right now, Gerrard would have been in the team. Do you really think anyone would have dropped him or Rooney? Sven and Capello persisted with Gerrard and Lampard in the middle despite it clearly not working and they are two of the best managers in recent history.

England teams are always made up of players from the top clubs. That is nothing new or specific to Hodgson at all.

Our problems are far more deep-rooted than Roy Hodgson's team selections.

Of England's 17 World Cup campaigns to date, 2014 ranks 13th, only eclipsed by the tournaments we didn't qualify for. I'm not saying I expected us to win it but this was, by England's standards, a major underachievement. Apart from that I just don't see it getting any better under him, the team is regressing and he's pushing 70.

Italy were poor in all three of their matches, Uruguay needed a play off to even qualify after finishing 5th in the South American group. Costa Rica beat them both comfortably, I don't buy that these are top teams we are incapable of beating.

Indeed, the FA like to appoint manager after manager of a similar ilk. And they keep getting the same results.

Somwone needs to show some balls and go for a change of approach. What would someone like Eddie Howe do with the England team I wonder.

Taylor's England didn't make it out of the group in the euros and failed to qualify for the 1994 World Cup - and he inherited the 1990 World Cup semi final team! He was absolutely awful.

Keegan got us dumped out of the euros in the group, but we did beat Germany along the way.

The only managers in the last 20 years who have done a decent job are Hoddle and Venables, but Venables did have the fact that we hosted Euro 96 in his favour and a very decent squad.

So why do we NEVER beat them then?

Our problem is our mentality and style of play. It just doesn't work at international level.

Capello and Sven tried to change it, but when push comes to shove, English players will always do what comes naturally to them - especially when under the kind of pressure a World Cup brings.

Capello is an excellent manager and had all the right credentials, but the players let him down just as they have let Roy down.

Uruguay? When was the last time we played them competitively before this World Cup? And Italy I remember losing to them on penalties at Euro 2012, but how many other times have we lost to them recently?

You know we won the World Cup in 1966?

Guess what, Uruguay held our World Cup winning team to a draw in that tournament. Our record against them and Italy in competitive games is dreadful. In fact, our record against top teams as a whole is dreadful.

We haven't beaten a top side in a tournament since 2002. It's even longer since we beat a top team in the knockout stages.