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Suarez bites back?
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TheMunch
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Rowdy:
“Er....this isn't about rugby, it's a different sport. You might as well say they're allowed to hit each other in boxing.”

Well people talk about rugby in this section as a way to make rugby seem superior to football (or the players). Why can't it be brought up now? I don't know if what he said is true (I don't watch rugby) but if it is then bringing it up can't be any worse than people saying things like rugby players don't roll around like footballers.
carnoch04
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“I haven't seen the UK's media response yet to be fair, that was in response that only the UK are interested and that another country didn't even mention the incident.”

I have no way of knowing but I would be surprised if the media of any country, other than Italy, devoted as much time to the incident as BBC and ITV did.
Alrightmate
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by swaydog:
“What a bunch of nancies!!
Did Vinnie Jonrs get done for sexual assualt for grabbing Gazza's nads.

It's a foul, nothing more. No need to become a bunch of drama queens over it.”

it does make me wonder about context when you see tackles flying in at speed which appear to show the player deliberately driving their foot, studs showing, into another players lower leg.
You could say that is worse as it suggests trying to injure somebody to put them out of the game. Or worse inflict a career ending injury.
degsyhufc
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“That appears to be a perfectly reasonable report of the incident. Compare it to the hyperbole and vitriol in today's UK papers.”

Originally Posted by O'Neill:
“I haven't seen the UK's media response yet to be fair, that was in response that only the UK are interested and that another country didn't even mention the incident.”

and are people comparing other media sources to the UK tabloids?
Do you expect balanced reporting from any red top? That's not what they do.

The broadsheets will cover it very differently than the tabloids. In some it may just get a fleeting mention.
RichmondBlue
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Desperate, desperate stuff. I imagine most Liverpool fans are embarrassed by the minority within their ranks who continue to trot out this type of rubbish in order to try and defend the indefensible.”

To be fair, Jan Molby writing in the Liverpool Echo said..

“When it happened I did a double take, I was waiting for the angle to show that he didn’t bite him. That would have been easier for Luis Suarez, for Liverpool and for football in general but it never arrived."
“Now I’m shocked. The more you see it, the worst it looks. It’s another incident where it’s impossible to defend Luis Suarez. For him to do it in such a high profile game, I’m sure FIFA will make an example out of him."
“Obviously his World Cup is over and I would expect FIFA to give him a long international ban. It’s a massive blow not only for Luis Suarez but for Uruguay’s hopes of going any further as he’s theitr best player by some distance.”
AZZURRI 06
25-06-2014
I am an Italy fan but it would be a shame if Suarez was banned for the rest of the tournament, he is capable of brilliance, the sort of star player fans love to watch. I can`t think of another player who used his teeth like that, as a weapon. Unless Transylvania provided a player in the past? D. Racula.....Count Alucard.......C. Lee perhaps??
Dub2
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by duckymallard:
“Clearly you don't give a sh/it about the game of football.”

I think the English hate him for knocking them out of the World Cup and they are lashing out.

Nobody else gives a shi.t. It is a talking point, but no more.

Only the English will treat it like it is the worst crime ever commited on a soccer pitch.

Such a nation of drama queens
MargMck
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Dub2:
“I think the English hate him for knocking them out of the World Cup and they are lashing out.

Nobody else gives a shi.t. It is a talking point, but no more.

Only the English will treat it like it is the worst crime ever commited on a soccer pitch.

Such a nation of drama queens”

Shall we end this 'nobody else cares' nonsense?

A few examples:
Front page of Afton Bladet, Sweden
Nu talar han ut om bitattacken
(Now he speaks out about bite attack)
Followed by articles titled ‘Dracula missed the bite’, ‘Now he scorned by the world’ and ‘He never changes.. fragmentation of human psychosis’

Front page of The Australian
‘He bit me, I still have the mark’

The Times of India
Suarez could face ban after bite claim

Globe & Mail, Canada
FIFA investigating after Suarez apparently bites another opponent in Italy match
Jamesp84
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Dub2:
“I think the English hate him for knocking them out of the World Cup and they are lashing out.

Nobody else gives a shi.t. It is a talking point, but no more.

Only the English will treat it like it is the worst crime ever commited on a soccer pitch.

Such a nation of drama queens”

You're Irish, aren't you?

Three words: "Thierry" "Henry" and "Handball"

RichmondBlue
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“I have no way of knowing but I would be surprised if the media of any country, other than Italy, devoted as much time to the incident as BBC and ITV did.”

Oh, I think they will. Every football crazy nation anyway. As I said before, it's the World Cup and the media everywhere is focussed on the event. It's also the the fact that it was biting, something that is seen as bizarre and uncivilised. It's great for the media, with a mixture of humour (there's plenty of funny stuff doing the rounds)..disgust, indignation, condemnation, and even sympathy (the poor guy needs help etc)
Xela M
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by AZZURRI 06:
“I am an Italy fan but it would be a shame if Suarez was banned for the rest of the tournament, he is capable of brilliance, the sort of star player fans love to watch. I can`t think of another player who used his teeth like that, as a weapon. Unless Transylvania provided a player in the past? D. Racula.....Count Alucard.......C. Lee perhaps??”

NOOOO! You are my fellow Italia supporter, please don't defend Suarez! It's not even Suarez who is at fault, it's the disgustingly bias referees who seem to be getting progressively worse at every subsequent World Cup. It was so obvious the referee broke Italy's game by handing out the red card and not giving one to Suarez. He changed the course of the game because the goal happened almost immediately after Suarez bit him, so there should have been a red card for Suarez and a free kick for Italy and no goal would have happened. It's not the first time Italy was robbed at the World Cup!
AZZURRI 06
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Xela M:
“NOOOO! You are my fellow Italia supporter, please don't defend Suarez! It's not even Suarez who is at fault, it's the disgustingly bias referees who seem to be getting progressively worse at every subsequent World Cup. It was so obvious the referee broke Italy's game by handing out the red card and not giving one to Suarez. He changed the course of the game because the goal happened almost immediately after Suarez bit him, so there should have been a red card for Suarez and a free kick for Italy and no goal would have happened. It's not the first time Italy was robbed at the World Cup!”

Sadly it makes no difference to us because we are out. I would rather watch a World Cup with Suarez than without him. Unless FIFA reinstate the Azzurri!!
odz1
25-06-2014
Waste of such a talented player. He must have the same mindset as Mike Tyson in his brain. Was a bite alright.

He will be banned for ages. Wonder if that will count in premier league?
Jim_McIntosh
25-06-2014
I fancied Colombia to beat Uruguay anyway but even more so if Suarez gets retrospectively banned. At least we'll get to see Forlan playing though.
carnoch04
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by MargMck:
“Shall we end this 'nobody else cares' nonsense?

A few examples:
Front page of Afton Bladet, Sweden
Nu talar han ut om bitattacken
(Now he speaks out about bite attack)
Followed by articles titled ‘Dracula missed the bite’, ‘Now he scorned by the world’ and ‘He never changes.. fragmentation of human psychosis’

Front page of The Australian
‘He bit me, I still have the mark’

The Times of India
Suarez could face ban after bite claim

Globe & Mail, Canada
FIFA investigating after Suarez apparently bites another opponent in Italy match”

Now compare that to:

"3 Bites and You're out! Kop Crisis as Suarez faces two year ban.." - Mirror

"Jaws III - Suarez leaves his mark again" - Express

"Animal Suarez is facing a two year ban" - Sun

"Make Biter Suarez a Pariah" - Mail

"Ban This Monster" - Telegraph

Just a slight over-reaction in England perhaps.
Gort
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by carnoch04:
“Now compare that to:

"3 Bites and You're out! Kop Crisis as Suarez faces two year ban.." - Mirror

"Jaws III - Suarez leaves his mark again" - Express

"Animal Suarez is facing a two year ban" - Sun

"Make Biter Suarez a Pariah" - Mail

"Ban This Monster" - Telegraph

Just a slight over-reaction in England perhaps.”

Not exactly the best examples of the press in the UK (bar The Telegraph... and even then I'm being generous). I do agree, though, that there's a natural bias for many in England against Suarez, but that doesn't mean that there isn't some truth in the hyperbole that they tend towards and that punitive action shouldn't be taken against what is savage behaviour.

Bottom line is that biting should be stamped out... and stamping.
omnidirectional
25-06-2014
Interesting to see the comments about no one caring outside the UK. I've had a look at a few international news sites and they're all covering the story, with it being the top story on many at the time of writing, including:

France: http://www.lemonde.fr/coupe-du-monde...7_1616627.html

Netherlands: http://www.telegraaf.nl/telesport/wk...nslang___.html

Germany: http://www.dw.de/fifa-opens-discipli...ent/a-17734808

Spain: http://www.elmundo.es/deportes/2014/...02e8b4595.html

Meanwhile, a paper in Norway reports on how the British press are reporting it: http://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/fotba...tt/a/23239245/
Tissy
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Zizu58:
“What's all the fuss about ?

They have biting , eye gauging , spearing someone head first into the ground and worse in virtually every rugby match but nobody gets banned or worse ...”

James Graham may not agree with you .
scousemick
25-06-2014
I think it's just possible to spot the odd liverpool fan in this thread.

It's a bite , he's bitten another human being not once but three times and people defend it of say others are over reacting . I've watched and played football for around 40 years , I've been at and involved in 1000's over games and I've seen or been aware of four bites and three of them are Suarez .

Of course football players sometimes go over the top of the ball in a challenge , they leave their foot in , they swing an elbow or even use their head and I've seen pushing and even punches thrown . The majority of those things involve the 'extensions ' to the usual actions of the game and a few acts of temper or aggression but biting , who bites another person ? I can see how people get angry in a physical confrontation & people lose there temper but again this is a bite , the third bite he's done. It may be acceptable if you're 'fighting for your life' and I mean actually fighting for your life , a life & death situation but in these circumstances really ? .

I boxed for a number of years and more recently done MMA training I've also played rugby as a youth but I've honestly never experienced it in any if them. Once in my life many years ago I've experienced somebody trying to bite me , fortunately I was wearing gloves , but I was genuinely shocked it's a horrible disgusting act .

Suarez is a wonderfully talented footballer outside the top 2 arguably the best around but his onfield behaviour is , I'm afraid , often unacceptable . This is not a one off , we've had racist abuse of a fellow professional , refusing to shake the hand of that very same player , 3 desperate biting incidents & far less seriously abuse to the crowd, feigning injury & the repeated foul of raking an opponents Achilles . I can't help but think the constant excuse making & 'Black Knight from Monty Python' blind delusional defence has created this exact situation where nobody seems to have sought to tackle the obvious problem . I find myself shaking my Head this is the third time he's BITTEN somebody , what happens if a dog bites somebody multiple times ? Once , however unpleasant , could perhaps be argued as a one off but repeatedly surely that can't be defended or explained ?
CSJB
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Dub2:
“I think the English hate him for knocking them out of the World Cup and they are lashing out.

Nobody else gives a shi.t. It is a talking point, but no more.

Only the English will treat it like it is the worst crime ever commited on a soccer pitch.

Such a nation of drama queens”

Then how do you explain the constant criticism of Suarez's previous misdemeanours, from before England were knocked out ?

You can't can you ?

I think a far more likely scenario is that you hate the English, and are using this as a means of lashing out.
scousemick
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by CSJB:
“Then how do you explain the constant criticism of Suarez's previous misdemeanours, from before England were knocked out ?

You can't can you ?

I think a far more likely scenario is that you hate the English, and are using this as a means of lashing out.”

"It's the British media's fault" , "that camera angle is inconclusive" , "it was an attempted headbutt" , "the Italian swung an elbow at him " , "it's not a bite he leant in" , "worse happens on a rugby field every day" , "I'd rather be bitten then suffer a leg break" , "people are jealous of him" , "it's an FA conspiracy " , "how is it worse than an elbow? " , "complete overreaction " , "it's a sir Alex ferguson conspiracy " , "everyone is frightened of Suarez " , "it's happens all the time in South America " and "the Italian dived" .

Just a few there to start us off when we've ticked all them off I'm sure I'll be able to put a few more up and we can start again.
edy10
25-06-2014
He's a disgrace to the game
dearmrman
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by scousemick:
“Do you think ? Providing there isn't some ridiculously out of character FIFA crackdown I'd expect the Spanish clubs won't care and Suarez to say he's being picked in again by the British media who are forcing him out , which the Uruguay manager has in fact already said .

It may even 'bite' Liverpool financially if he agitates for a move , who knows but all very entertaining as an outsider .”

I think you will find this time, it won't be just the British press, this was shown on the World Stage for everybody to see.
FrankieFixer
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by Dub2:
“I think the English hate him for knocking them out of the World Cup and they are lashing out.

Nobody else gives a shi.t. It is a talking point, but no more.

Only the English will treat it like it is the worst crime ever commited on a soccer pitch.

Such a nation of drama queens”

Oh look a Liverpool fan making up excuses for Luis Suarez's latest disgraceful behaviour.
scousemick
25-06-2014
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“I think you will find this time, it won't be just the British press, this was shown on the World Stage for everybody to see.”

I don't disagree that the worldwide media will run it but as I've said the Uruguay manager has already had a go at the British press & I think we might see the same from Suarez . If Suarez wanted to leave then this combined with the story of how he knocked England out would provide him With the perfect excuse .
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