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Suarez bites back?
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yellowlabbie
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“You do realise don't you that suarez played no part whatsoever to the goal which knocked Italy out

Looking at the consequences from his actions, I think his handball against ghana in the 2010 WC was a lot worse than this biting incident.”

I do realise that Suarez played no part in the goal but Uruguay would have been down to 10 men surely?

Anyway, it's not just the biting incident, he has done some appalling things and said some appalling things. He is just not a nice person, he doesn't care about anyone but himself and he certainly doesn't care for Liverpool FC.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong. If he had apologised instead of trying to get the other player sent off, he just might have made a few fans.
celesti
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by Mythica:
“Banned forever from seeking employment.

Yes you can. Why can't you?

He should be banned from football and dealt with how anyone in the street would be by the Police.”


People in the street aren't generally banned from ever being employed again for acts of violence.
yesman2012
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by Rowdy:
“Mark Lawrenson put it quite well:

Link”


Ha, another 'will somebody plllease think of the children' hyperbole of an argument.

There are far worse injustices and wrongs in life generally which your kid will in all likelihood come across, unless you've wrapped them in cotton wool and shielded them completely from the real world. If you're seriously worried about having to explain to your kids why a footballer had a little bite at someone, then you probably aren't fit to be a parent in the first place. But then again you can always trust the lazy parents to keep shifting the blame on someone/thing else for their own incompetence.
Fio Montoya
26-06-2014
At least he's out of the World Cup, no matter what the outcome of the appeal. He will not be allowed to any of the matches that Uruguay are to play, either, even as a spectator. I would have liked to see him sent home, but at least we won't have to see him at the stadiums.

I do think that given his history, it should have been longer, but I think this is his last chance now. If he ever bites anyone again, they will go to town on him.
stargazer61
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“Ha, another 'will somebody plllease think of the children' hyperbole of an argument.

There are far worse injustices and wrongs in life generally which your kid will in all likelihood come across, unless you've wrapped them in cotton wool and shielded them completely from the real world. If you're seriously worried about having to explain to your kids why a footballer had a little bite at someone, then you probably aren't fit to be a parent in the first place. But then again you can always trust the lazy parents to keep shifting the blame on someone/thing else for their own incompetence.”

Biting is indicative of animal behaviour not human. It is not behaviour which should be accepted or condoned in any civilised society. You may get a greater injury from reckless tackles but that is not the point - humans simply do not bite other humans.
yesman2012
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“I do realise that Suarez played no part in the goal but Uruguay would have been down to 10 men surely?

Anyway, it's not just the biting incident, he has done some appalling things and said some appalling things. He is just not a nice person, he doesn't care about anyone but himself and he certainly doesn't care for Liverpool FC.

He doesn't see that he has done anything wrong. If he had apologised instead of trying to get the other player sent off, he just might have made a few fans.”

And I completely agree that he should be punished, but its the severity and extent of the punishment which I'm against.
C Horse
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by celesti:
“People in the street aren't generally banned from ever being employed again for acts of violence.”

People in the street would get a criminal record ... which, whilst not being banned from employment, certainly wouldn't help
blitzben85
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“And I completely agree that he should be punished, but its the severity and extent of the punishment which I'm against.”

What would he have to do then to deserve the ban he's received ?
celesti
26-06-2014
And if the suggestion is that Suarez get a criminal record like Joe Public, you couldn't do that and ban him forever.
Mythica
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by celesti:
“People in the street aren't generally banned from ever being employed again for acts of violence.”

I've never said Suarez couldn't be employed again

I've said he should be banned from football and have the Police deal with him. How that affects his future prospects outside of football isn't really our concern.
celesti
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by Mythica:
“I've never said Suarez couldn't be employed again

I've said he should be banned from football”

Football is where he's employed. You can't dictate this if you're applying regular law.



Say you're an author, and you get a criminal record and jail time for repeated attacks. You won't came out and be told 'you can do anything but no paid writing'
blitzben85
26-06-2014
double post.
celesti
26-06-2014
Doctors and pilots have codes of ethics and the responsibilities of human lives. Footballers play football. There'd need to be some hastily-compiled credence against biting in football for it to even begin to compare.
yesman2012
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by blitzben85:
“What would he have to do then to deserve the ban he's received ?”

I think a ban for the rest of this world cup and a few qualifying matches for the next world cup is sufficient. All this stuff about him not even being able to train with his teammates is stupid and unnecessary.
blitzben85
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Doctors and pilots have codes of ethics and the responsibilities of human lives. Footballers play football. There'd need to be some hastily-compiled credence against biting in football for it to even begin to compare.”

But if someone who plays football did something serious enough to warrant a lifetime ban then FIFA can apply that ban.
Fio Montoya
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“And I completely agree that he should be punished, but its the severity and extent of the punishment which I'm against.”


Actually it could have been a lot worse. Fifa had the power to ban him for two years, as I understand it. They really had no choice but to ban him from playing any more in this World Cup, and the four month ban I felt was pretty light, given his past history.

He will be able to play again in October, so he won't have missed that much of the new season. He got off lightly.
yesman2012
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Biting is indicative of animal behaviour not human. It is not behaviour which should be accepted or condoned in any civilised society. You may get a greater injury from reckless tackles but that is not the point - humans simply do not bite other humans.”

So your argument is that the consequence of an action is almost irrelevant compared to whether that action is deemed as ' civilized human' behavior or not.
blitzben85
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“I think a ban for the rest of this world cup and a few qualifying matches for the next world cup is sufficient. All this stuff about him not even being able to train with his teammates is stupid and unnecessary.”

Answer the question: What would he have to do then to deserve the ban he's received ?
yesman2012
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by blitzben85:
“Answer the question: What would he have to do then to deserve the ban he's received ?”

Break another players' leg, karate kicking them in the chest, basically anything that would cause serious harm to someone else.
celesti
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by blitzben85:
“But if someone who plays football did something serious enough to warrant a lifetime ban then FIFA can apply that ban.”

And Suarez's bites really aren't, as mental as they may be. That would still exist outside applying criminal law anyway, which is where you can't double dip for the sake of hysteria.
mikeyddd
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by stargazer61:
“Biting is indicative of animal behaviour not human. It is not behaviour which should be accepted or condoned in any civilised society. You may get a greater injury from reckless tackles but that is not the point - humans simply do not bite other humans.”

Where did you get that nugget from? Toddlers bite all the time and have to be taught not to.
blitzben85
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“Break another players' leg, karate kicking them in the chest, basically anything that would cause serious harm to someone else.”

Thank you.
blitzben85
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by mikeyddd:
“Where did you get that nugget from? Toddlers bite all the time and have to be taught not to.”

It seems Suarez missed that lesson. Hence why it's his third bite in 4 years. Toddlers don't know what or why they are doing it. How old is Louis ?
RotMojo
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by yesman2012:
“So your argument is that the consequence of an action is almost irrelevant compared to whether that action is deemed as ' civilized human' behavior or not.”

It's quite clear you are a Suarez fan.

He got off lightly. Simple. He should have been banned for at least 12 months. The guy is a nutter, and a liability, and he should not be anywhere on the football pitch if he cannot control himself.
mikeyddd
26-06-2014
Originally Posted by Mythica:
“I've never said Suarez couldn't be employed again

I've said he should be banned from football and have the Police deal with him. How that affects his future prospects outside of football isn't really our concern.”

Are you talking about the Police, who not that many years were reputed to be shooting homeless kids to clear them of the street and even today are invading parts of the city and pacifying them with force. I'm not to sure they are worried about someone biting someone else on a football pitch.
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