I'm sure dominators is the worst 2nd doctor story ever....
What Troughton-era story is worse than The Space Pirates?
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Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“ Space Pirates I've only listened to once or twice ... maybe I'll have to dig it out for the next long car journey?
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“ Space Pirates I've only listened to once or twice ... maybe I'll have to dig it out for the next long car journey?
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Get plenty of sleep beforehand if you're driving.
Originally Posted by daveyboy7472:
“I too have only seen the recon but if you listen to the audio track on it's own compare to other audios like The Savages, The Abominable Snowmen, The Dalek Masterplan etc, it still comes across very poorly in contrast to those stories.”
“I too have only seen the recon but if you listen to the audio track on it's own compare to other audios like The Savages, The Abominable Snowmen, The Dalek Masterplan etc, it still comes across very poorly in contrast to those stories.”
I watched the animated episodes of The Ice Warriors and they were massively inferior to the other, non-animated episodes of the story. That's not because the animation was terrible, it wasn't, it's because the performances often make or break a story, especially a weak story. And in Troughton we have the best visual performer in the show's history. He can make paint drying seem interesting.
I doubt the story will ever be considered a classic but it may well get a critical re-evaluation when we get to see it properly.
Originally Posted by CoalHillJanitor:
“Get plenty of sleep beforehand if you're driving.”
“Get plenty of sleep beforehand if you're driving.
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Fair point. I learned not to operate heavy machinery while listening to The Abominable Snowmen. (other than the scary voice of the Intelligence, this is another story that is terribly dull)
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“I watched the animated episodes of The Ice Warriors and they were massively inferior to the other, non-animated episodes of the story. That's not because the animation was terrible, it wasn't, it's because the performances often make or break a story, especially a weak story. And in Troughton we have the best visual performer in the show's history. He can make paint drying seem interesting.
I doubt the story will ever be considered a classic but it may well get a critical re-evaluation when we get to see it properly.”
“I watched the animated episodes of The Ice Warriors and they were massively inferior to the other, non-animated episodes of the story. That's not because the animation was terrible, it wasn't, it's because the performances often make or break a story, especially a weak story. And in Troughton we have the best visual performer in the show's history. He can make paint drying seem interesting.
I doubt the story will ever be considered a classic but it may well get a critical re-evaluation when we get to see it properly.”
Hopefully one day we will be able to make that comparison. It would be great to have the chance to re-evaluate all the missing episodes against the audios and recons. The Enemy Of The World and The Web Of Fear both lived upto expectations imo, not sure how many of the others would and I still feel The Space Pirates wouldn't.
And Chuff, gonna have to disagree with you yet again. I love The Abominable Snowmen, absolutely love it. Don't know why we disagree on so much when we have a mutual admiration for The Savages.
Abominable Snowmen is the one where I find Victoria at her most annoying, but that's nothing I haven't gone on about before....
I'm with CHJ: Debbie Watling is especially shrill in Abominable Snowmen. Six episodes of capture-escape stuff is a bit dull. The Intelligence's scary voice is wonderful though.
Sorry we disagree again, Davey! I still love ya! x
Sorry we disagree again, Davey! I still love ya! x
Originally Posted by chuffnobbler:
“I'm with CHJ: Debbie Watling is especially shrill in Abominable Snowmen. Six episodes of capture-escape stuff is a bit dull. The Intelligence's scary voice is wonderful though.
Sorry we disagree again, Davey! I still love ya! x”
“I'm with CHJ: Debbie Watling is especially shrill in Abominable Snowmen. Six episodes of capture-escape stuff is a bit dull. The Intelligence's scary voice is wonderful though.
Sorry we disagree again, Davey! I still love ya! x”
Bless Ya!
is there any Troughton stories you do like which we can agree on?!
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“I watched the animated episodes of The Ice Warriors and they were massively inferior to the other, non-animated episodes of the story. That's not because the animation was terrible, it wasn't, it's because the performances often make or break a story, especially a weak story. And in Troughton we have the best visual performer in the show's history. He can make paint drying seem interesting.
I doubt the story will ever be considered a classic but it may well get a critical re-evaluation when we get to see it properly.”
“I watched the animated episodes of The Ice Warriors and they were massively inferior to the other, non-animated episodes of the story. That's not because the animation was terrible, it wasn't, it's because the performances often make or break a story, especially a weak story. And in Troughton we have the best visual performer in the show's history. He can make paint drying seem interesting.
I doubt the story will ever be considered a classic but it may well get a critical re-evaluation when we get to see it properly.”
On the subject of Ice Warriors, but still on the subject of "dull" which, as the thread is focused on The Space Pirates & worst 2nd Doctor story is still somewhat related, I was disappointed with this story. I expected great things -first Ice Warriors story, interesting background to the story & setting, great set & spooky backing music I knew of in clips I'd already seen, but again I found the story rather dull & overlong. In hindsight, I much preferred Seeds of Death which was embedded in a real hit & miss season, season 6.
About to finally watch Web of Fear today so hoping that isn't a too dull 6 parter -well 5 parter (it definitely wasn't dull in the Target novel, or opening episode which I've already seen)
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