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Old 25-06-2014, 19:30
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For me since I've been alive it was the euro 96 side. Nothing for me will ever compare . Seeing shearer , sheringham ,ince , gazza etc in there pomp . Also it was just the overall buzz of having a European championships in my home country . Iirc we started off with a dodgy draw with Switzerland but soon improved and who could ever forget gazza's goal vs Scotland.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:38
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Was it that good?

After the dodgy draw with the Swiss, we could have easily ended up drawing against the Scots who missed a penalty just before Gazza made it 2-0, and we beat a Dutch team who were too busy squabbling among themselves, followed by a dull 0-0 and penalties against Spain before going out on penalties.

The core of this team failed to get us to the world cup in 94.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:40
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And Spain were robbed.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:42
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Surely the '66 team are the only ones who could truly be called great, they are the only ones that have won anything
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:43
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The euro 96 team is way overrated.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:44
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You can be great without winning, although obviously that's more your 70s Dutch and '82 Brazil than any England side.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:44
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Of all the teams I've seen I would put the Italia 90 one at the top
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:45
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Define "great"?

Best in the world? (*Never have been)

One of the top 10 international sides ever from any country? (*I don't think so)

Capable of winning a tournament? (* 1996, 1990, 1970, 1966 but then many countries are capable of winning a tournament - maybe every country in a competition is capable of winning if Greece can win a tournament.)
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:53
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For me since I've been alive it was the euro 96 side. Nothing for me will ever compare . Seeing shearer , sheringham ,ince , gazza etc in there pomp . Also it was just the overall buzz of having a European championships in my home country . Iirc we started off with a dodgy draw with Switzerland but soon improved and who could ever forget gazza's goal vs Scotland.
Non have been great otherwise they would have won something.

The two best squads post 90, which is when I started to get into football are Euro96 and WC98.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:54
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Of all the teams I've seen I would put the Italia 90 one at the top
Scraped out of the group. Scraped past Belgium. Scraped past Cameroon. Could hardly describe them as World-beaters.
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Old 25-06-2014, 19:59
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Surely the '66 team are the only ones who could truly be called great, they are the only ones that have won anything
100% correct the rubbish that has followed not fit to clean there boots
Truly great teams dont make me laugh
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:09
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Non have been great otherwise they would have won something.

The two best squads post 90, which is when I started to get into football are Euro96 and WC98.
Ok "great" was the wrong term to use. Good would have sufficed . I agree with you . You must be of a similar age to me then , perhaps it's also nostalgia as well. I would probably say the 98 World Cup was probably my favourite for entertainment. But this one is running it close ! And I think may well surpass it.
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:11
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:13
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The '66 team only had three world class players (four if you count Greaves who didn't feature in the final)..Banks, Moore and Charlton. We've probably come close since then in terms of quality, but we have never found another manager who could blend that talent into a winning team.
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:13
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Your 1990 World Cup side.
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:18
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The '66 team only had three world class players (four if you count Greaves who didn't feature in the final)..Banks, Moore and Charlton. We've probably come close since then in terms of quality, but we have never found another manager who could blend that talent into a winning team.
Home advantage is massive in those circumstances too. I'm not in the mood for looking up more stats but I'm pretty sure being host gives most countries a boost and they perform better than normally.
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Old 25-06-2014, 20:23
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You can be great without winning, although obviously that's more your 70s Dutch and '82 Brazil than any England side.
Id say a 'great' side is probably either winning the Euro, or semi-finalist or higher in the World Cup.
And maybe I'm being generous by including semi-finalist of the World Cup?
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Old 25-06-2014, 22:04
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1990.
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Old 25-06-2014, 22:14
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Home advantage is massive in those circumstances too. I'm not in the mood for looking up more stats but I'm pretty sure being host gives most countries a boost and they perform better than normally.
Home advantage spring to mind

Sweden final in 58
Chile third in 62
England won 66

Etc. Loads of examples
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Old 25-06-2014, 22:17
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Venables side in 1996 was the last decent england side. Creative and looked the budiness

Nobody said you had to win. Loads of decent sides have been beaten. Football is a very close game. Just a matter of luck, and maybe some refereeing calls
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Old 26-06-2014, 00:31
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I suppose the last great team was the 1970 one. They were considered joint favourites with Brazil and ahead of Germany and Italy. Lost to the Germans in QFs because of slackness.

But the best team I remember was the England 82 side with Robson, Wilkins, Keegan, Francis, Clemence and Brooking amongst others. Dominated a tough group which included a very good French team that should have made the final (being 3-1 up in extra time!!) and a dangerous Czech team. Didn't lose a match but were knocked out because of a stupid second round format of 3 team groups. But that was the peak. We lost out qualifying for Euro 84 to the great Laudrup led Danish side. We did ok in 1990 but we weren't that great really. We looked a lot better in Euro 1996. But we haven't really looked capable of taking on the big countries since then.
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Old 26-06-2014, 02:01
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Difficult question to answer really, as we have always been distinctly average.

I'm not sure that even the 1966 side could be called "great" really. Home advantage makes a big difference. Hell, even South Korea made the semis when they hosted it!

I suppose the best team I've seen would be either the 1990 or 1996 side and that's mainly because of a few moments of magic from Gazza. The 1982 team wasn't bad either.

Hoddle's 1998 World Cup side looked like they might do something until we performed our usual trick of losing to the first top team we played.
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Old 26-06-2014, 16:55
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Old 27-06-2014, 07:51
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England 1966 team could be called a truly great team
their 3 year record was superb plus they Won the 66 cup

1966 results 3 seasons
1964-65 won 5 drew 4 Lost 0
1965-66 won 12 drew 3 lost 1
1966-67 won 7 drew 1 lost 1

The 1996 team also has a really outstanding set of results and would definatley be the best England team to follow the 66 squad
1996 results
1994-95 won 3 drew 4 Lost 1
1995-96 won 7 drew 5 lost 1
1996-97 won 9 drew 0 lost 2
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Old 27-06-2014, 08:21
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England 1966 team could be called a truly great team
their 3 year record was superb plus they Won the 66 cup

1966 results 3 seasons
1964-65 won 5 drew 4 Lost 0
1965-66 won 12 drew 3 lost 1
1966-67 won 7 drew 1 lost 1

The 1996 team also has a really outstanding set of results and would definatley be the best England team to follow the 66 squad
1996 results
1994-95 won 3 drew 4 Lost 1
1995-96 won 7 drew 5 lost 1
1996-97 won 9 drew 0 lost 2
Sorry wouldn't call them truly great results good at best...England never ever has had a truly great team not even the 66 squad.
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