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Old 27-06-2014, 09:06
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1990 for me - Cannot beat Platt, Linekar, Beardsley, Pearce, Walker, Parker, Shilton, Butcher, Gazza etc.
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Old 27-06-2014, 12:07
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1990 for me - Cannot beat Platt, Linekar, Beardsley, Pearce, Walker, Parker, Shilton, Butcher, Gazza etc.
I agree with that. They may not have been the "best" team in the world but the level of commitment from them would have put the current England offering to shame. Also when will we have another striker as good as Linekar who can score on the biggest stages, still the only English player to win a Golden Boot at the World Cup Finals (1986).
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Old 27-06-2014, 12:41
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Truly great should be standing comparison with the outstanding sides to have ever played. England's 1966 side would fit.
No other side since would. The 1970 side would be above the others mentioned even though they only got to the quarter finals.
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Old 27-06-2014, 13:13
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2002-2006 team was pretty good IMO:

- beaten by a fluke goal by one of the best Brazilian teams of all time
- losing on penalties to the portugal's golden generation
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Old 27-06-2014, 13:20
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Regardless of team how many matches since 1966 can you say that England produced a truly great performance in?
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Old 27-06-2014, 13:20
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We are really stretching the definition of "truly great" in a few of these posts.

Half decent might be more accurate.
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Old 27-06-2014, 13:26
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Ronaldinho meant that goal.
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Old 27-06-2014, 15:07
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I don't think there has been a "great" English side. The team of 1966 is probably the nearest, but then home advantage does tend to factor into it. The team of 1990 was quite good as well, it has to be said. England has produced some capable teams that could have gone far, but I think it's a stretch to consider any of them truly great.

Oh, yeah, Ronaldinho meant that goal. I really wish people would give credit where it's due.
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Old 27-06-2014, 16:03
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I don't think England has had a truly great side, at least, not in the colour TV era.

The 1966 side is obviously the best side as it won the World Cup, but the only England since then that I've thought that it looked like it could do something was the 1996 side.

The 1990 side is probably the best England side since 1966 though.
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Old 27-06-2014, 21:18
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I don't think the 1990 side was that great despite all the talk and a Gazza mania that followed. They played poorly against Ireland and Egypt in their group. They were second best against Belgium who still had many players from their strong 1986 team. They only beat Cameroon because of the African nation's lack of discipline. Then finally they had a good game when they had the better of West Germany in the 120 mins. But everyone was poor in 1990.
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Old 27-06-2014, 21:51
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I don't think England has had a truly great side, at least, not in the colour TV era.

The 1966 side is obviously the best side as it won the World Cup, but the only England since then that I've thought that it looked like it could do something was the 1996 side.

The 1990 side is probably the best England side since 1966 though.
The 1970 side was probably the best after 1966, they lost Gordon Banks to food poisoning before their quarter final with West Germany and ended up with the much less experienced Peter Bonetti in goal, they lost 3-2 after being 2-0 up.
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Old 28-06-2014, 01:16
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The 1970 side was probably the best after 1966, they lost Gordon Banks to food poisoning before their quarter final with West Germany and ended up with the much less experienced Peter Bonetti in goal, they lost 3-2 after being 2-0 up.
I agree the 1970 side was the peak of that group of players. But it wasn't Bonetti's fault they lost and even though he didn't have many caps he was a top quality goalkeeper. The substitutions Ramsey made didn't help. England were in charge of the game before Charlton and Peters were replaced. Bonetti wasn't at fault for the two goals that led to extra time, though he did flap at the winner.

The 1970 team was the best I remember. The 1996 side wasn't bad, but not in the same class.
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Old 28-06-2014, 11:57
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I agree the 1970 side was the peak of that group of players. But it wasn't Bonetti's fault they lost and even though he didn't have many caps he was a top quality goalkeeper. The substitutions Ramsey made didn't help. England were in charge of the game before Charlton and Peters were replaced. Bonetti wasn't at fault for the two goals that led to extra time, though he did flap at the winner.

The 1970 team was the best I remember. The 1996 side wasn't bad, but not in the same class.
Yes, the 1970 team was probably a stronger all round outfit than the '66 team. Would have given the Brazilians a better game in the final than the Italians did.
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Old 28-06-2014, 13:43
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What about the class of 94?

Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Tony Dorigo
Lee Sharpe

Heady days.
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Old 28-06-2014, 13:45
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What about the class of 94?

Andy Sinton
Carlton Palmer
Tony Dorigo
Lee Sharp

Heady days.
Oh yes.

It's a shame they didn't qualify for USA '94, because that side would have won the WC easily.
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Old 28-06-2014, 15:32
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I don't think England has had a truly great side, at least, not in the colour TV era.
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That's it...nailed! England should play all their games in black-and-white; we were damned good at cricket in those days too.
John Edrich was never the same in colour.
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Old 28-06-2014, 15:52
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For me I think the 1990 side was the last great side we had. If Robson stayed for a couple more years we may have won the Euro's in 92.
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