Thoughts?

One criticised for being over too quickly. One criticised for lingering too long.

The Kate murder storyline lasted for almost 3 months but I did get bored of the storyline. With Lucy's murder, I find it more interesting because there are many twists and turns.

But do we really want to go a whole year with thinking it was so and so then a few weeks later it's a totally different person being accused? Then they didn't do it because they were with X on the night she was killed. It gets boring having so many suspects. They could have gone down the neighbours route and linked Lucy's death to a enemy of Phils or Ian's or even Cindy!

But EE haven't done that so far. So far only Jake has been a suspect.

I like that the story is opening up this little subplots like Ian and Rainie (Although you'd think he'd have found a prostitute he didn't know, did he learn nothing from shagging Janine?).

It's not really been dragged out to me because they rest it and focus on other plots in the interim.

I'm looking forward to Autumn when we'll no doubt start to get into the real meat of the story and the build up to Christmas.

Jake is the only "official" suspect - i.e the only person the police have arrested. But, as viewers, we are also supposed to suspect Ian and Max alongside Jake.

I wouldn't say Kate's murder was over too quickly; 3 months is usually a decent amount of time for a whodunit. I think it suffered from Montague and Sienna being suspects who were basically new characters and who we didn't care about. Once the murder was linked to a past story involving Paul and the Lassiter's inferno, it suddenly had more emotional depth.

Lucy's murder is drawn out. And has, IMO, lost some momentum recently. It's hard to care about Jake being the prime suspect, especially when we know that it won't be resolved until next year, so it's kinda difficult to fully invest in any of the suspects at such an early stage in the story. But, the emotional fallout has been handled brilliantly with the Beales.

Interestingly, both soaps had a random taxi driver go missing, unable to corroborate the suspects' (Jake and Sienna) alibis. The taxi drivers were found by someone close to the victims (Lauren and Brennan), who learned that both drivers went underground b/c of visa issues.

They are not really comparable, purely because Neighbours and EastEnders are not comparable and they have completely different cultures.

In Neighbours, everything is usually resolved to a satisfactory conclusion quickly (normally within about 2 weeks) and whenever anybody is wrongly accused of something, they are cleared by unequivocal evidence. Quite often it is because the culprit or criminal or false accuser (or whatever) gives a full confession. The two other suspects in Kate's murder both had solid alibis.

In contrast, EastEnders is all about doubt, suspicion, twisted motives, multiple suspects, secrets, unresolved disputes, false accusations, miscarriages of justice, people committing crimes and getting away with it, and people getting revenge in all sorts of ways.

If you commit a crime in Neighbours, you get caught, you confess, and you go to prison.
If you commit a crime in EastEnders, you get away with it, you don't confess (the police aren't normally involved in any case), only a few people know you've done it (but they don't tell the police either), and then you get your comeuppance several years later when something nasty (but unrelated to the original crime) happens to you in turn.

In Neighbours we already know who killed Kate Ramsay, but in EastEnders there will no doubt be about six or eight suspects over the next few months and maybe nobody will be convicted in the end.

Who did Kill Kate Ramsay?

With the exception of Paul, who had he been caught and convicted for Gus Cleary's would not have driven Victor Cleary to murder Kate in the first place. However I suppose he did confess but wasn't taken seriously because of his brain tumour.

Victor Cleary - Gus Cleary's brother, who died in the Lassiter's fire that Paul started back in 2004. Victor had been in prison for several years and, was released around the time of Paul becoming Mayor. He visited Izzy in London to get some answers, before returning to Australia under an assumed alias. He wanted to get back at Paul for killing Gus, which is why he shot Kate.

Not really. We're meant to be guessing what secrets will be uncovered by Lucy's death.

In this case, we now know Ian spent Good Friday sleeping with a prostitute. The storyline is supposed to go beyond Lucy's death and tie in various other elements.

sorry, I dont watch Neighbours so I dont know how the 2 murders compare

I just know that I am bored with the investigation into Lucy murder already and there are still 8 months to go!

tbh I dont think I will care why she was killed or who dunnit come February

i dont know why people want everythgin wrapped up on a month - thats not how it would happen in real life, crikey, some people would not be able to cope if they never announced the killer and it was an 'un solved cold case' - now THAT would be interesting, if we didnt get told who it was and then in about 15 years, there's suddenly a break through or confession or something

normally when we see a 'from the distant past revelation' it involves someone who wasnt in the soap when that happened