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Old 28-06-2014, 20:51
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No I don't think you have rose tinted specs. The 1982 Brazil squad is widely regarded as one of its best of all time. What with the likes of Zico, Falcao, and Socrates amongst others.
The Brazil 1982 team would take some beating. No disrespect to the current squad.
In my opinion the current sqaud is pretty poor when compared to previous Brazil teams
of a few decades ago the 1970 team for me the best maybe?
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Old 28-06-2014, 20:51
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Brazil have most of the worlds media on their side cheering them on to win the WC.
And that reason alone, the sooner they are knocked out the better, it's not like they are the Brazil of old to be admired.
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Old 28-06-2014, 20:53
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Missed the game - sounds like a good one.

Unlucky Chile but Brazil go on without being convincing it seems.

Hope Webb had a good game.
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Old 28-06-2014, 20:58
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Unlucky Chile.
Some great individual performances, from Medel and Vidal in particular.

Brazil roll on. It was a relatively even game so perhaps penalties was the best way to decide it.
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Old 28-06-2014, 21:28
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Brazil showed tenacity here, up against possibly one of the best teams in the competition

This Brazil are obviously not a "great" team, but I think they have just passed their toughest hurdle on the way to the final.

Nemayr may have been largely anonymous (I missed the first half), but from what I saw ( brief highlights) he was being pretty closely covered by two Chileans when ever he got on the ball.
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Old 28-06-2014, 21:28
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Old 28-06-2014, 21:54
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Brazil showed tenacity here, up against possibly one of the best teams in the competition

This Brazil are obviously not a "great" team, but I think they have just passed their toughest hurdle on the way to the final.

Nemayr may have been largely anonymous (I missed the first half), but from what I saw ( brief highlights) he was being pretty closely covered by two Chileans when ever he got on the ball.
Tenacity certainly, but they were very poor overall. I don't think any team has ever gone on to win a tournament having looked so bad at the last 16 stage (and as I mentioned earlier, no team that has won a last 16 penalty shoot out has ever gotten near the final)
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Old 28-06-2014, 22:08
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Old 28-06-2014, 22:47
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Brazil will beat Columbia.

Quite easily..

Columbia have scored some great goals and Rodriguez is a great player, but they haven't really dominated on the pitch against Uruguay.
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Old 28-06-2014, 23:23
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I have seen this so often happen in recent times, that I wondered whether the no stopping on the run-up to a penalty rule had been removed. I really wish this was enforced, because that kick today shouldn't have stood and should have been taken again. Still, yeah, hosts and all that jazz.
You are allowed to stutter your run.

Originally Posted by Fifa.com

Interpretation of the Laws of the Game and Guidelines for Referees


LAW 14 - THE PENALTY KICK

Procedure

Feinting in the run-up to take a penalty kick to confuse opponents is permitted
as part of football. However, feinting to kick the ball once the player has
completed his run-up
is considered an infringement of Law 14 and an act of
unsporting behaviour for which the player must be cautioned.
Nothing wrong with his penalty.
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Old 28-06-2014, 23:49
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Howard Webb will be relieved.... he won't be chased out of the country now!
But he may not get another game
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Old 28-06-2014, 23:52
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Bbc radio cut away to tennis scores just as chile equalised.
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Old 28-06-2014, 23:59
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In my opinion the current sqaud is pretty poor when compared to previous Brazil teams
of a few decades ago the 1970 team for me the best maybe?
its the worst since 1990 at least. even in world cup '90 ireland got further than brazil
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Old 29-06-2014, 00:16
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its the worst since 1990 at least. even in world cup '90 ireland got further than brazil
Brazils squad at the last World cup was pretty poor too and was seriously lacking in flair that their previous teams had. Even their 2002 WC winning team had the 3 R's (Ronaldo, Rivaldo and Ronaldinho) which nobody in the current squad even comes close to succeeding in terms of flair.
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Old 29-06-2014, 00:38
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Brazil have most of the worlds media on their side cheering them on to win the WC.
I know what you mean because even our English media have been cheerleading them.
Even as going so far as to put words in our mouths by telling us that we want Brazil to win to keep the party alive, or something.

Well no, I think I'll make my own mind up thank you very much. Columbia appear to be more attractive to me than Brazil because they have played football that has really impressed me.
Holland too I credit more than Brazil.
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Old 29-06-2014, 00:42
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Brazil will beat Columbia.

Quite easily..

Columbia have scored some great goals and Rodriguez is a great player, but they haven't really dominated on the pitch against Uruguay.
Why would you expect them to dominate Uruguay? Uruguay are one of those teams that are hard to beat because they make it very difficult to play against them with the football you'd like to.
Do you really think that Brazil would have gone into the match with Uruguay if they had drawn them in the second round by playing pretty football and impressing us with dazzling skills?
It's not even as if Brazil have impressed in the group stage with arguably easier opponents.
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Old 29-06-2014, 01:28
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Brazil will beat Columbia.

Quite easily..

Columbia have scored some great goals and Rodriguez is a great player, but they haven't really dominated on the pitch against Uruguay.
I disagree. I think Colombia are a stronger side than Chile and are very dangerous going forward (four wins out of four and 11 goals scored). If anything Colombia are the form team and Brazil are the ones who are struggling.
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Old 29-06-2014, 02:31
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I really hope Brazil or Argentina don't win this World Cup.
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Old 29-06-2014, 10:32
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In my opinion the current sqaud is pretty poor when compared to previous Brazil teams of a few decades ago the 1970 team for me the best maybe?
Yes. This was the first Brazil match I've bothered to watch, being only a World Cup dabbler, and I was very surprised at how ordinary the team looked. Especially their star player Naymar, who wasn't in the game much. Hulk was incredible (sorry) but no one else really stood out for me in the Brazil side. Chile tried so hard, and were basically beaten by bad luck and then enormous pressure.

That said, Brazil 'ordinary' is still ahead of most people's best, but this time around I think they're going to have serious trouble - should they meet - with Holland, Germany or Argentina.
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Old 29-06-2014, 10:50
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Yes. This was the first Brazil match I've bothered to watch, being only a World Cup dabbler, and I was very surprised at how ordinary the team looked. Especially their star player Naymar, who wasn't in the game much. Hulk was incredible (sorry) but no one else really stood out for me in the Brazil side. Chile tried so hard, and were basically beaten by bad luck and then enormous pressure.

That said, Brazil 'ordinary' is still ahead of most people's best, but this time around I think they're going to have serious trouble - should they meet - with Holland, Germany or Argentina.
You were lucky as you caught Hulk's only good game so far. Neymar is clearly going to be a great player and has been carrying the whole team. There's some decent defensive players like Thiago Silva and Luis Gustavo but not much else. But I think their name is on the trophy.
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Old 29-06-2014, 13:23
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You were lucky as you caught Hulk's only good game so far. Neymar is clearly going to be a great player and has been carrying the whole team. There's some decent defensive players like Thiago Silva and Luis Gustavo but not much else. But I think their name is on the trophy.
Brazil would need a hell of a lot of luck to win this tournament. I can't recall a single team that has looked so poor at the group and last 16 stages going on to win a World Cup. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Colombia send them packing in the quarter final (and they won't need a penalty shoot out to do it either).
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Old 29-06-2014, 13:48
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Brazil would need a hell of a lot of luck to win this tournament. I can't recall a single team that has looked so poor at the group and last 16 stages going on to win a World Cup. I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if Colombia send them packing in the quarter final (and they won't need a penalty shoot out to do it either).
I suppose the only winners I can think of that looked as poor or even worse in the group stages was Italy in 1982. Three miserable draws against Poland, Cameroon and Peru. But they came to life in the second group round when they famously beat both defending champs Argentina and the best team, Brazil, in the second round and never looked back. Brazil will have to come to life to beat Colombia and if they do, who will stop them?
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Old 29-06-2014, 13:59
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I suppose the only winners I can think of that looked as poor or even worse in the group stages was Italy in 1982. Three miserable draws against Poland, Cameroon and Peru. But they came to life in the second group round when they famously beat both defending champs Argentina and the best team, Brazil, in the second round and never looked back. Brazil will have to come to life to beat Colombia and if they do, who will stop them?
Last night was the night when Brazil should have come to life and turned on the style but instead they laboured to a 1-1 draw (and only the woodwork saved them at the end). As I said, I don't think I've ever seen a team look this bad at the last 16 stage and go on to win the tournament. Colombia turned in the type of performance last night that Brazil 'should' have done in the earlier match.

The stats are certainly against them. Five out of six teams who won a penalty shoot out at the last 16 stage were eliminated in the quarter finals, and no host nation has ever had the ignominy of having to go through a penalty shoot out in the second round in order to reach the quarter final.
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Old 29-06-2014, 14:43
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Last night was the night when Brazil should have come to life and turned on the style but instead they laboured to a 1-1 draw (and only the woodwork saved them at the end). As I said, I don't think I've ever seen a team look this bad at the last 16 stage and go on to win the tournament. Colombia turned in the type of performance last night that Brazil 'should' have done in the earlier match.

The stats are certainly against them. Five out of six teams who won a penalty shoot out at the last 16 stage were eliminated in the quarter finals, and no host nation has ever had the ignominy of having to go through a penalty shoot out in the second round in order to reach the quarter final.
Interesting! If Falcao had been here then I'd be really concerned for Brazil but I still think they can do it and more importantly win me my bet!!
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