I'm used to hearing it as a business cliche, where every tiny process or new technology is "paradigm shifting". Er, no.

Jale clearly had no clue what it meant. I suspect she'd either had deja vu or one of those little vertigo wobbles that feel like a minor earthquake in your head.

Ok, I've FF'd through a recording and found it.

Steven was not there that I could see. Nor was it Matthew who'd said what I'd remembered. It was like this:

Jale is stilling slumped on one of the garden smoking area sofas. Mark says something about a psychic bath and putting crystals in the bath. Jale says she might have put her crystals in the sun, ya know. Noting happens for a short time. Then Jale suddenly raises her hands (arms by her side bent 90 degrees at the elbow, palms facing about a foot apart) and says:

Jale: "oh, I've just had a real weird paradigm shift."

Mark: OoOh! Are you all right?

Jale: Yah, I'm all right. It's back to normal now. Ooof.

Mark: Bloody hell. Are you sure?

Christopher: What's your paradigm? Is that like (mumble)bridge(???) And paradigm just means like an example, doesn't it?

Jale (tiredly): Yeah.

Scene ends.

It reads really funny, doesn't it? What the hell did Mark think was after happening to her?

Good question.

I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been an outbreak of claims that Jale was taking the p and has a very "dry" sense of humour. (Not that that's why I think.)

It took the phrase paradigm shift to mean that she had observed or felt (spiritually or intuitively) some shift in the climate, such as the reference points or classifications changing. I didn't get what she was referring too though. I assumed it was to something earlier that hadn't been chosen for HLs.

It didn't seem to be like that, watching the scene. It didn't look like she was referring to anything earlier, unless it was to her putting her crystals in the sun.

Also, it was something that came on her suddenly -- "oh, I've just had a real weird paradigm shift" -- and quickly faded: "I'm all right. It's back to normal now". It was like someone might say they'd had a sudden feeling of "déjà vu", or felt a sudden shiver and said "a goose walked over my grave".

Yes, that's exactly how it looked to me.

Not in context. Although, I suppose, to be fair there's no way to make it meaningful in context, as Jale clearly had just heard the phrase "paradigm shift" somewhere and decided it sounded cool without actually bothering to learn what one was.

World English Dictionary

paradigm shift

— n
a radical change in underlying beliefs or theory

She must have suddenly realised all this paranormal babble is actually untrue!

I think the difference is that where Jale's "beliefs" are just seen as a bit of silly fun that don't hurt or offend anyone, Danielle's were oppressive from the start. Jale helps people see fit golden birds with big tits, where Danielle is promoting withholding rights and privileges from same-sex couples and openly denounces well documented scientific evidence, the laws of the natural world, and logic all because it's "what the pope says"...

It's all nonsense but if I had to pick a side, I'll hang out with the crystals and whale music crowd.

Really? That's news to me.
Not being the slightest bit religious, I hadn't taken any great interest in Catholic (or any other sect's) doctrine, but I thought all Christians believed that God was the omnipotent omnipresent creator?

Have they now decided he took more of an over-seeing role?
Or did he just light the blue touchpaper, and stand well back?

I wouldn't argue with your interpretation Veri. I didn't pay a lot of attention to that scene. So more than likely I interpreted it along the lines of my understanding of the meaning of the word paradigm rather that from consideration of the context in which Jale spoke.


BIB Moreover someone who I would wager already fantasises about well endowed golden women.

I was wondering if this was a UK/US difference. Catholics here are not taught that at all, it's strictly an evangelical thing, and why it's surprising that the Catholics and evangelicals have started working together on certain social issues when they truly do each believe the other is doing it wrong and going straight to hell. Danielle doesn't sound like a Catholic, she sounds like a Southern US televangelist.

I think something got lost along the way. Danielle seemed to believe in a literal six days of creation, and that's not Catholic doctrine.

Creationism, the supposed alternative to evolution, also isn't Catholic doctrine.

However, I don't think it's Catholic doctrine that the universe wasn't created in 6 days either.

That last few popes have made a point to comment on the bible working in concurrence with science, not contradicting it. Their philosophy is more along the lines of the big bang happened, and everything prior to that was God.

Or housemates .

It's a joke folks! But none the less true for it. Maybe the house ain't haunted, but every person from those in there to you and I are haunted by our own ghosts. I don't suppose you can exorcize a metaphorical ghost though. Ho hum.

An exorcism would make for some great telly, though. I'm sure BB can make Mark believe there's a ghost in there at least, then maybe he can convince Jale and bingo.

As for the OP's question, I don't think anyone has a problem with Danielle's faith, it's more the way it determines her supposed morals like your moral code is a rule book rather than the things you feel inside and Danielle will do things such as nominate someone for not believing what she does or telling other people how they should behave (or judging them for it or who they are due to her beliefs) so there's a sense in which she imposes her belief, even if not directly on others.

I find it this aspect of Jale (apologies) slightly amusing - that clip where she and Mark were talking about Winston's telepathic powers the other day - I thought they were joking but as they went on I realised they were deadly serious!

If that's how it works then my spirit guide is likely an Angle Slice or even Mr. Kipling himself!

if jale believes in exorcism, why then has she not attempted one on Helen, that girl is certainly possessed by some demons.
This whole crystal stuff is something jale has adopted for the house as part of her BB character. Its obvious.

I suspect "exorcism" was an exaggeration anyway. She was probably burning sage, which is a relatively common practice. Even some Christians do it.

Yeah, that's what I thought as well. I mean how many possessed people are there in your circle that you can fill every room in your house with them? I think "exorcism" meant "cleansing" or whatever the F it is.

How are you thinking Jale does an exorcism?

LOL on that basis mine would be a nice full bodied shiraz!

All of it absolute nonsense.
Also people who say "I'm not religious, but I'm a spiritual person", what on earth does that buncombe mean, more irrational hogwash.
There's no such thing as a detachable soul.

Oh Phil, did you have to ... make way for the philosophical wordsmiths..

I didn't see all the Danielle threads but I presume she was criticised because she used the fact that Ash didn't share her worldview to nominate him and Jale hasn't? I don't know whether there were threads criticising Mark for his nomination of Christopher for a similar reason but, in fairness, there should have been.