What annoys me is that it hasn't occured to Adam, Moira or Cain to ask how James got the DNA sample in the first place!

Yeah right - she's had 4 men in 40 years! Shameful eh?

I think they're all just in shock at the moment. It's bound to come up soon - no way was that just a random sock mention the other night.

Shall we add up how many the people judging her have slept with? Cain?.. Chas?.. Adam?..

Illegally.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't need The mother's consent as the child is over 21 but he should have had Adams which he didn't.

Apparently his 100quid kit has a no questions asked, no signatures required of both concerned parties clause. And they use skanky socks to test!

There's precedents in Soap though - Kevin Webster managed to get Jack tested without either of his parents consent. At least that was a hair, not foot sweat though.

I'm still waiting for the sucker punch that it was actually one of Ross' socks he sent off for testing. He and Adam do live in the same house after all. I know it came from Adam's washing going back to Moira's for laundering (and doesn't that just say it all - wants his independence but sends his laundry back to Mummy) but socks get everywhere don't they!

It is when she had 2 of them during her marriage and then the other so soon after her husband died smart alec.

Again, shall we talk about the men/women and things Cain, Chas and Adam have done?

Moira is snow white compared to them.

Exactly. As I think has been mentioned, most have them have had 4 in a 20th of the time.

Chas since Moira's arrival - Carl, Cameron, Dan, James and tried very hard to get John into bed. Pretty sure i've missed someone

Adam - Scarlett, Mia, Ella, Victoria, Katie - again sure i've missed somebody.

Cain - Charity, Amy, Moira, Priya. Fairly restrained for him but still 4.

Let's also note all 3 of them have either cheated on somebody, or the person they were seeing was cheating on somebody within those lists.

Let's also remember that Cain and Adam have both slept with mothers and daughters, virtually at the same time. And in Cain's case he did it on purpose as an act of cruely too hurt Angie when she tried to end things with him.

He also slept with Priya for no other reason than to get at Jai and Charity.

Paddy to add to Chas' list.

Think that's all for Adam.

We won't even go into Cain's record with women!!

To be technical - i'd say 4 men in 25 years as i'm assuming she wasn't sexually active until she was 15 or so and she's only about 40 now.

Paddy - yes of course. Who she cheated on with Carl.

Yes Cain's record is appalling - i've touched on Angie and Ollie elsewhere. Also of course Jasmine. But he's been fairly sedate in the last 4 years if we're going just from Moira's start.

I've just caught up on this and although I agree Chas, Cain etc have done awful and cheaty things in the past, I agree Moira has been pretty wrong the way she has dealt with everything. Cain gave her plenty of opportunity to tell about her past with James, it would have been the decent thing to do bearing in mind she let him and her family move in and it was clear James felt he had some hold on her. If she'd told Cain of their history then he would be supportive to her now.

I know she may not have seriously believed Adam was James son but I would have spoke to Cain as soon as James worked out there was a possibility. It's Moira's lying to cover up her infedilty that is the problem, not the infidelity in the first place. My reasoning for her desperately not wanting Cain to know is that she insisted she was faithful to john and could excuse her previous fling with Cain now she was in a settled relationship, true love etc.

She can get Vanessa in to help at the farm. They can have a mad passionate lesbian affair and swear off men for good.

Sorry, got a bit carried away there.

I honestly did pretty much enjoy all of it, but I was yelling at the screen for Moira to stop crying, and tell them all to sod off and stop judging her. A few home truths directed at the lot of them wouldn't have gone amiss. And James still confuses me. The man destroys everyone's life and doesn't seem to give a damn, like he's some kind of sociopath. But I don't think I'm actually meant to think that. It's like the writers aren't sure if he's a hateful nutjob, or the poor beleagured single Dad who did his best. I loathe him, the destructive obsessive vengeful dick.

I reckon Adam and Aaron Livesy are going to go down the romantic route.

Unlike Charity.

FIFY

Thanks.

4 men in her lifetime Moira is dragging down the averages of the other women in the village. Shame on her

I still think there is more to James than meets the eye. I want his ex to return and spill the beans

Yep!!! I'm just assuming - maybe she started up in her early teens (or even pre teens) but even so it's 30 years at most, not 40 as i'm sure she's only meant to be 40ish. Certainly the actress is a couple of years younger than me.

I still agree that 4 in 25 years, the entire adult, sexuual span really isn't very much. It's less than me and I'm much the same age, have been in very serious (faithful) relationships for over 15 of my 27 years of sexual activity and do not consider myself to be a slut and would take major offence if I was addressed in the way Moira has been, especially by some of my friends who I know have been somewhat generous with their affections.

It's Chas that has really p++++d me off. Even though I think they went over the top I can understand for different reasons why Cain and Adam feel so betrayed and hurt. Even Pete, Ross and Finn to a certain extent as they're blaming her (in part) for losing their Mum. But Chas has no right whatsoever to even have an opinion really, let alone preach about it.

2 of them while professing to be happily married to one and the other 4½ months after she buried that husband. That beats any Dingle and that's all we've been told about so far.

Ditto x 100!!

You think that a one night stand and a brief affair is worse than Cain's track record with women