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bobcar
01-07-2014
Originally Posted by Trevor_C7:
“Recently bought a LG 50PN650T plasma. It's 600HZ, but am still getting considerable motion blur on the football which I never had on my old 37" LCD. The LG was the best of a very rum bunch that Curry's had on display. Football was unwatchable on every LED under £1000 in the shop.”

You probably aren't getting motion blur on your new plasma. What you are seeing will be compression artefacts that are worse on a larger screen.
Deacon1972
01-07-2014
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“The big question is, is the new 4K technology as good in overall quality as 1080p TV technology? If this thread is anything to go by, the answer may be no: there's far more to overall TV picture quality than spatial resolution.

Also, are today's 4K TVs going to be fully compliant with International UHD TV standards when they are agreed? Probably not, otherwise the UHD TV standards would already be agreed, which they aren't. For the above reasons, I would advise anyone to steer well clear of 4K TV for now.”

Out of all the 4k demos I have seen I would say the overall quality is better, 4k has greater depth/detail on long shots - whether this trend will remain on streaming/broadcasts remains to be seen.

If the standards agree in favour of higher colour depth etc then the quality could be so much better.

Compliance/backwards compatibility hasn't stopped anyone from buying into new technology before, I doubt it ever will, its a gamble for sure. I'm ready for a TV upgrade but I'm still sitting on the fence for a little while longer.
d'@ve
01-07-2014
Originally Posted by Deacon1972:
“Compliance/backwards compatibility hasn't stopped anyone from buying into new technology before, I doubt it ever will, its a gamble for sure.”

It certainly has, me for one among many! I even took into account the quality of SD TV on my bright shiny new HD TVs before upgrading and I never cease to be amazed that some people seemed not to do that, as I'm sure that everyone watched more SD than HD for several years after its introduction (and I still do).

Many have regretted their decision too and I'm sure similar issues will arise as 4K and UHD TV are introduced, but they won't suck in me or people like me. I/we'll wait until the standards are agreed and until we are satisfied that there is no quality loss when watching HD and SD, before upgrading. Some of us will also take into account our normal viewing distance too. Yep.
Deacon1972
01-07-2014
Originally Posted by d'@ve:
“It certainly has, me for one among many! I even took into account the quality of SD TV on my bright shiny new HD TVs before upgrading and I never cease to be amazed that some people seemed not to do that, as I'm sure that everyone watched more SD than HD for several years after its introduction (and I still do).

Many have regretted their decision too and I'm sure similar issues will arise as 4K and UHD TV are introduced, but they won't suck in me or people like me. I/we'll wait until the standards are agreed and until we are satisfied that there is no quality loss when watching HD and SD, before upgrading. Some of us will also take into account our normal viewing distance too. Yep.”

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SD upscaling was one consideration when we upgraded to a HDTV, there were other aspects that were just as important to us - we were replacing a 56" RPTV so we wanted something with similar screen size without the physical size, plasma was the way to go. Even though HD was over six months away we were happy to wait and were prepared for the wait for HD content to grow - we couldn't see the point in investing in another SD product at that moment in time. As it happens SD was noticeably better on the plasma than on the RPTV.


Of course there are those that air on the side of caution, just as there are those who adopt early, I'm an early adopter and as of yet I've not regretted any of my decisions, I invested in VHS not Betamax, Sky not BSB (squarial), Bluray not HD DVD - I will approach 4k no differently, hopefully with no regrets.
Trevor_C7
02-07-2014
As far as I'm concerned, we've never had the picture quality we were all promised with HD before it went mainstream, probably because the reality is that bitrates have to be squeezed to within an inch of their life in order to fit all the channels in to the available space.

What possible hope is there for mainstream 4K?
Phil F.
04-07-2014
Hi,
I see motion blur on all panels,LCD/Plasma/expensive/very expensive/cheap.
I bought a Sony 50w/656 recently,motion blur very apparent.
I wonder,does this mean I am just more susceptible to it??
On a slight aside,I am sure the quality of SD transmissions is getting worse by the day!?
Sport,particularly football,unless your viewing distance is long.........is virtually un watchable im my opinion in SD.
Is there any scaling interface that will improve SD to make it watchable?

Regards...Phil.
bobcar
04-07-2014
Originally Posted by Phil F.:
“Hi,
I see motion blur on all panels,LCD/Plasma/expensive/very expensive/cheap.”

Are you sure this is motion blur and not just compression artefacts caused by the motion?
Phil F.
04-07-2014
Yes,motion blur.
I do see compression artifacts,I think Sky's HD transmissions have got worse over time in that respect.
I found their SD transmissions on my previous 32in panel very poor,but now on this 50in,sky sports is diabolical to the point that I could not watch it if I didnt have the HD pack.
Good news for Sky I guess as I feel sure many have the same problem,but not good when one is considering down sizing sky subscription.
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