DS Forums

 
 

Hollyoaks: I hope Sam not Sonny is the one to arrest Finn.


Reply
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 28-06-2014, 18:08
Lizzie Brookes
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,318

When the truth comes out I hope Sam, not Sonny is the one to arrest Finn. Though Sonny did question Finn over the Blessing attack, Sam has been heavily involved in the rape storyline from the start. Sam was the one JP reported the rape to. Sam was the one who unwittingly let Finn into her home on the day of JP's sentencing. Sam was the one who Finn deceived with those crocodile tears and who Finn tricked into taking a tissue of lies to court that sealed poor JP's fate. Despite JP and Danny's affair, Sam should still do her duty and arrest Finn, and it would be quite fitting if she arrested Finn herself.

Though Sam has proven herself to be bent, Sonny is worse. He kidnapped and bullied Jason (though Jason shouldn't have blackmailed him), he let Marlow die and Rick, despite his faults didn't deserve to be beaten up - it's both ironic and hypocritical that Sonny questioned Finn over the Blessing attack but then went and did the same to Rick even if Rick did blackmail him.
Lizzie Brookes is offline   Reply With Quote
Please sign in or register to remove this advertisement.
Old 28-06-2014, 18:19
sderr123
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 9,966
Sam will have to be involved whether she wants to or not, because she took JP initial statement on the night of the rape. I don't think Finn can be convicted without evidence about JP's injuries and state of mind on that night. So regardless of her feelings she will have to help. At this point I don't think the audience could have sympathy for her if she refused. Who is she to judge anyone about breaking up a family or lying?
sderr123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 20:08
lulu g
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 43,573
When the truth comes out I hope Sam, not Sonny is the one to arrest Finn. Though Sonny did question Finn over the Blessing attack, Sam has been heavily involved in the rape storyline from the start. Sam was the one JP reported the rape to. Sam was the one who unwittingly let Finn into her home on the day of JP's sentencing. Sam was the one who Finn deceived with those crocodile tears and who Finn tricked into taking a tissue of lies to court that sealed poor JP's fate. Despite JP and Danny's affair, Sam should still do her duty and arrest Finn, and it would be quite fitting if she arrested Finn herself.

Though Sam has proven herself to be bent, Sonny is worse. He kidnapped and bullied Jason (though Jason shouldn't have blackmailed him), he let Marlow die and Rick, despite his faults didn't deserve to be beaten up - it's both ironic and hypocritical that Sonny questioned Finn over the Blessing attack but then went and did the same to Rick even if Rick did blackmail him.
Is that really worse than having an innocent man - an innocent boy, in fact - incarcerated for fourteen years for a crime you know he didn't commit, just to keep him away from your daughter (his girlfriend)?
lulu g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:07
Emma_Henvey
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,642
Is that really worse than having an innocent man - an innocent boy, in fact - incarcerated for fourteen years for a crime you know he didn't commit, just to keep him away from your daughter (his girlfriend)?
Good point!
Both Sam and Sonny are just as bad as each other.
Emma_Henvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:08
Lizzie Brookes
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,318
Is that really worse than having an innocent man - an innocent boy, in fact - incarcerated for fourteen years for a crime you know he didn't commit, just to keep him away from your daughter (his girlfriend)?
I don't know what you're on about as I'm only following JP rape storyline but I would prefer Sam to arrest Finn because I don't like Sonny much.
Lizzie Brookes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:24
Brookside
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,311
They have turned both coppers into a bent joke, my sympathy for Sam Lomax is gone. Anything Cameron does is related to his anger of being locked up for no reason.

Sonny Valentine is weird, wanting to have sex with his dead brothers ex wife. Calvin Valentine wouldn't have approved. He will screw Teresa McQueen when she returns, mark my words.
Brookside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:26
Emma_Henvey
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,642
I don't know what you're on about as I'm only following JP rape storyline but I would prefer Sam to arrest Finn because I don't like Sonny much.
I turns out that Sam set up Cameron (Peri's dad) and sent him to prison for 14 years for a crime he didn't commit just because she didn't want him to know the truth about Peri.

Another bent copper, yay *rolls eyes*
Emma_Henvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:34
Emma_Henvey
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,642
They have turned both coppers into a bent joke, my sympathy for Sam Lomax is gone. Anything Cameron does is related to his anger of being locked up for no reason.

Sonny Valentine is weird, wanting to have sex with his dead brothers ex wife. Calvin Valentine wouldn't have approved. He will screw Teresa McQueen when she returns, mark my words.
I agree, she's kind of like Finn in terms of having the potential to be a really good character but got ruined when they turned bad. Any sympathy Sam could have had is quickly gone. Tbh I wouldn't blame Cameron if he wanted revenge on Sam. If was looked up for 14 years for a crime I didn't commit I wouldn't be so nice either. It also doesn't help that she feels no guilt for sending him to jail. She even threatened to extend his sentence if he came near Leela.
Emma_Henvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 21:42
Brookside
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,311
I agree, she's kind of like Finn in terms of having the potential to be a really good character but got ruined when they turned bad. Any sympathy Sam could have had is quickly gone. Tbh I wouldn't blame Cameron if he wanted revenge on Sam. If was looked up for 14 years for a crime I didn't commit I wouldn't be so nice either. It also doesn't help that she feels no guilt for sending him to jail. She even threatened to extend his sentence if he came near Leela.
Plus when he ruins others life's I know that we are all responsible for our own actions but in this case how could being locked up for so long not turn you bad. God knows what happened to him in their mentally and psychically.
Brookside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 22:02
lulu g
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 43,573
I don't know what you're on about as I'm only following JP rape storyline but I would prefer Sam to arrest Finn because I don't like Sonny much.
Fair enough. I don't like Sonny much either - nor Sam. I just disagreed with your assertion that while both are bent cops, Sonny is worse than Sam. He has done wrong, but I think what she has done is far worse.
lulu g is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 22:25
Lizzie Brookes
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 13,318
Fair enough. I don't like Sonny much either - nor Sam. I just disagreed with your assertion that while both are bent cops, Sonny is worse than Sam. He has done wrong, but I think what she has done is far worse.
Fair enough.
Lizzie Brookes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 23:26
Marianne_321
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: AKA: Madness
Posts: 20,479
Is that really worse than having an innocent man - an innocent boy, in fact - incarcerated for fourteen years for a crime you know he didn't commit, just to keep him away from your daughter (his girlfriend)?
I really loved Sam & was so disappointed when I found out she was responsible for something so horrific. Seriously, how could you sleep at night with knowing you have framed an innocent man to rot in jail for 14 years just to keep him away from your daughter? Cameron must have been quite young at the time as well, so I can't really think of what else he could have done that was so bad that Sam had to resort to such measures.

I still enjoy seeing Lizzie on screen though, but have gone off the character since finding that out. I think JP would be better off if he continued to avoid her & the rest of the Lomax's but I doubt it especially if he gets with Ste & we still haven't seen the rest of the Lomax's confronting JP about the affair yet.

Out of the two, I'm not sure who I would prefer to arrest Finn. Sonny & Sam both have history with JP.
Sonny may now be with Carmel but he used to bully JP at school for being gay. So even though he seems alright with him recently, it may be more to do with pleasing Carmel, than to do with JP & since they all live in the same house it makes sense for them to try to get on.
I'm sure Sam will harbour a lot of resentment to JP about the current state of her marriage. I also think that whatever her thoughts on JP, she would not want a rapist free walking the streets.

To be honest it would be better if another officer arrested Finn as Sonny & Sam are both too involved with the victim & it could be argued that they would not be impartial because of that & that they should leave any interviews with Finn to another officer, but I'm sure it will end up being one or both of them!
Marianne_321 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 23:38
Skyfall
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 7,570
I wanted Sam to be the one to arrest Finn seeing what she did to Cameron, I hope someone else arrests Finn.
Skyfall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 23:45
Emma_Henvey
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 9,642
Plus when he ruins others life's I know that we are all responsible for our own actions but in this case how could being locked up for so long not turn you bad. God knows what happened to him in their mentally and psychically.
I agree, personally I wouldn't blame Cameron if he wanted to seek revenge on Sam. That's was 14 years of his life wasted because of her. I also imagine he would be pretty upset when he finds out she lied about Peri. Sam told him that that baby wasn't his and that she was dead. So I'd imagine we will be angry once he finds out the truth and that the baby is his and is in fact alive.
Emma_Henvey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 28-06-2014, 23:48
Brookside
Inactive Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Posts: 1,311
I would hope he was a decent Dad to Peri Lomax. This being Oaks though...
Brookside is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-06-2014, 09:02
ME1234567
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Posts: 5,037
Sonny and Sam are both bad as one another.
ME1234567 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-06-2014, 10:44
spikewoman
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 2,424
Sonny and Sam are both bad as one another.
Very true but interesting that we pretty must guessed Sonny was a bad 'un from the get go whereas it took some time for it to be revealed that Sam was too.
spikewoman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 29-06-2014, 17:07
gwenda
Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,007
Sam may have thought Cameron ruined Leela's life by getting her pregnant so young and in doing so also altered hers and Danny's lives. It's no excuse but I could see why she might have wanted to ruin Cameron's in return.

As for arresting Finn? Well only if she genuinely believes he's guilty as otherwise she has a clear conflict of interest. She currently hates JP. She might side with Finn when he denies it and convieniently 'lose' evidence again.

I don't think JP will name Finn unless Finn does something criminal again. JP has kept quiet for so long now I imagine he will need a big motivator to dob him in.

It's an unlikely scenario but what if Cameron was to tell Sam his life had been ruined in so many ways because of her? It might make her feel guilty and prompt her to forgive JP and then encourage him to name his rapist.
gwenda is offline   Reply With Quote
 
Reply




 
Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 12:22.