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Quarter Final: Brazil vs Colombia @ Fortaleza, 04.07.14 @ 9pm, ITV 1/HD |
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The main reason I fancy the Germans is that they have a winning mentality and enormous self belief.
Brazil look to be a bit of a shambles at the moment.....the fact that they would resort to kicking Colombia off the pitch rather than playing any football indicates they have very little confidence at the moment. Germany are the better team. |
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Germany aren't known for playing with great flair. They are a side who get the job done and have the ability to adapt to their opponents' different styles.
A well organised German side should have more than enough to see off this truly appalling Brazil team. If this Brazil team win the World Cup it will be hugely disappointing and I hope the Germans spare us having to watch them ruin the final. |
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Are the social problems in Brazil affecting the carnival atmosphere that was expected. No carnivals shown at all on the TV.
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Doesn't it depend on the opponents as well?
I on;y caught the second half but France were totally useless. Germany probably just trotted about making sure of the win. If France played better no doubt Germany would have upped there game also. I think Brazil will be more up for it. They have to be. |
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Whoops - post messed up
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Maybe I am judging Brazil by their past high standards but I really detest their current team. I totally understand why people are "Why can't Brazil win ugly" and I have no answer to it but there something about seeing the people in those shirts play like they have this World Cup that leaves you empty.
Hope Germany either smash them or win with a pen from a last minute dive. At least we expect it from them
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Fred is honestly the worst footballer in this entire tournament.
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Sven should have been managing at this World Cup because it appears you can get to the semis without turning up in the second half.
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Maybe I am judging Brazil by their past high standards but I really detest their current team. I totally understand why people are "Why can't Brazil win ugly" and I have no answer to it but there something about seeing the people in those shirts play like they have this World Cup that leaves you empty.
Hope Germany either smash them or win with a pen from a last minute dive. At least we expect it from them ![]() |
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Maybe I am judging Brazil by their past high standards but I really detest their current team. I totally understand why people are "Why can't Brazil win ugly" and I have no answer to it but there something about seeing the people in those shirts play like they have this World Cup that leaves you empty.
Hope Germany either smash them or win with a pen from a last minute dive. At least we expect it from them ![]() |
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They reminded me a bit tonight of that horrible Argentinian side that reached the final in 1990.
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You can't really blame Brazil for not playing the samba football we used to know them for - when it boils down to it they are a pretty average team with Neymar being the one true world class star, but then you consider they also have to carry players like Fred (who I have never seen have a good game) and Oscar (who has a very occasional good game but looks knackered every time he takes to the pitch).
Having said that I would love to see Germany destroy them in the semi final ... if Neymar and Silva are both out of that game you would make the Germans strong, strong favourites. |
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Suspicions Neymar has a "severe" spinal injury and could be out for several months....
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Come on, he did brilliantly to score considering that he went home two weeks ago.
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Suspicions Neymar has a "severe" spinal injury and could be out for several months....
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Suspicions Neymar has a "severe" spinal injury and could be out for several months....
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Neymar missing will hurt their chances. Brazil are unlike past wc teams but why do so many here want to see them fail? They've beaten ds hopefuls Chile and now Colombia, if Germany also fail will ds regulars be favouring Brazil's opponents in the final as well?
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The decisions they get by being at home (as every home nation do, us included in 66) has maybe just seen them over the line in some games. Maybe that sounds a bit ott but there have been a few decisions in games that I imagine would have gone for Brazil whereas they didn't for their opponents. Not sending off Caeser tonight and Neymars elbow against Croatia are two that spring to mind. Not clear cut you could say but they do make a difference. Then there was the continuous fouling tonight that saw one player (I think) booked. I just cant help thinking they are getting all the big 50/50's their way. Nothing surprising or new but perhaps a reason why so many would be disappointed to see Brazil win what has been a brilliant tournament and why they are attracting so much criticism.
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The decisions they get by being at home (as every home nation do, us included in 66) has maybe just seen them over the line in some games. Maybe that sounds a bit ott but there have been a few decisions in games that I imagine would have gone for Brazil whereas they didn't for their opponents. Not sending off Caeser tonight and Neymars elbow against Croatia are two that spring to mind. Not clear cut you could say but they do make a difference. Then there was the continuous fouling tonight that saw one player (I think) booked. I just cant help thinking they are getting all the big 50/50's their way. Nothing surprising or new but perhaps a reason why so many would be disappointed to see Brazil win what has been a brilliant tournament and why they are attracting so much criticism.
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Neymar missing will hurt their chances. Brazil are unlike past wc teams but why do so many here want to see them fail? They've beaten ds hopefuls Chile and now Colombia, if Germany also fail will ds regulars be favouring Brazil's opponents in the final as well?
World Cup winners should be entertaining to watch at the very least and also a team to be respected. Brazil are neither of those two things. |
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Neymar missing will hurt their chances. Brazil are unlike past wc teams but why do so many here want to see them fail? They've beaten ds hopefuls Chile and now Colombia, if Germany also fail will ds regulars be favouring Brazil's opponents in the final as well?
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And if you die, you die.
Well, I've been with the best, and I've BEAT the best! I've retired more men than Social Security! |
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The decisions they get by being at home (as every home nation do, us included in 66) has maybe just seen them over the line in some games. Maybe that sounds a bit ott but there have been a few decisions in games that I imagine would have gone for Brazil whereas they didn't for their opponents. Not sending off Caeser tonight and Neymars elbow against Croatia are two that spring to mind. Not clear cut you could say but they do make a difference. Then there was the continuous fouling tonight that saw one player (I think) booked. I just cant help thinking they are getting all the big 50/50's their way. Nothing surprising or new but perhaps a reason why so many would be disappointed to see Brazil win what has been a brilliant tournament and why they are attracting so much criticism.
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This game saw more fouls committed than any match at this tournament so far (54; previous most was 51 during Brazil v Chile).
Brazil are certainly winning ugly - they won't get away with that against the Germans and the fact that despite those stats the referee failed to make one booking in the first half has to maybe be called into question.
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Neymar is out of the World Cup, fractured vertebrae, nothing was said about that challenge for some reason.
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There were people on here accusing him of time wasting, even after he was stretchered off.
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