The series 7 cybermen are staying it seems they were spotted on location with UNIT and The Doctor.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/d...-8-new-3788594

I liked the design at first but now looking back at it it kind of looks like a Cyberman in a gimpsuit. Never thought I would say this but I like the 2006 Cybermen better. At least they look quite robotic. These new ones look plastic and like a child's toy. They look like if you kicked it it would crack.

So why start a new thread for this when there are others on this topic? Your post seems more like a comment that should be on another thread than the start of a new discussion

EDIT: I'm actually thinking of another forum. Though it still could have been posted somewhere else

I think the new designs are the best there has ever been, personally.
I like that they look less like robots and more like cyborgs because that's what they are.

Let's hope they have a better story this time.

A better story, and hopefully some kind of boundary as to what they are capable of. It's boring when they are just given limitless power and ability to upgrade constantly when you only have a 45 minute story which must see them defeated.

I don't think any of the Cybermen in the new series have been a patch on the originals. What made them scary was that they were a mix of human and machine, the new series ones just look like robots.

Must admit the cybermen of the 80's where better by far. The modern re-imagining was just to 2 dimensional, back in the 80's they were full of malice, now the longest sentence you get is "Delete, Delete"

They are not robots so why should they look robotic?

I was so glad when they got a makeover in Series 7, all the NuWho Cybermen before then just didn't seem all that threatening, no long range weapons and they could only move in that slow march. It would be so easy to run away from them!

The new powers they got in Nightmare in Silver was a much needed upgrade

I hope we never see that tacky slo mo effect used again.

Me too. I think they have a look of the cybermen of old, but with a modern touch to them.

I liked the "Nightmare in Silver" design because when looked alongside "The Tenth Planet" and "Earthshock" variants, they paint a very clear picture of the Cybermen's evolution and its relation to their humanity.

The first design is the most human with machines grafted on their bodies, the second seems to be only about half human with mechanical and electric components replacing entire body parts, while the third looks like they've had all their humanity removed, leaving almost most no trace of human flesh remain, and have stored their brain into a databank.

Picture 6 from the Mirror is interesting, that looks like an old 80's cyberman head on the ground.

It came from the Invasion (1968)

The pre-series 7 Cybermen had guns too. I want to say they had them in Doomsday ( I don't imagine they were clomping up to Dalek to try and electrocute them), but don't know for sure.

What annoys me is that 'upgrading' is just a matter of wishing really hard - we're supposed to believe that they've never been waterproof before, and suddenly, when they need to be, they can just magically fix that in software? Since Cybermen are supposed to be human forms that have been 'upgraded' by adding new hardware, any upgrade should be something that needs to be physically added to their bodies. If they want a speed upgrade, they should have to plug it in. If they want to be waterproof, they should have to go back to their factories and make themselves waterproof.

Basically, I don't think they need to be the Borg - but I do like the idea that they can adapt and be different each time the Doctor meets them.

The Cybermen should be the very epitome of 'adapt and survive' - and the cost that comes with that.

I'm hoping that the Cybermen we see in this story come from a time BEFORE the events of Nightmare in Silver. It would make them far less powerful making the story far more believable for Earth. If we were to see Cybermen from the same point in time or even later in time than those in NIS then the story wouldn't be so easy to solve, purely because if we had that generation of Cybers back again the planet would be invaded and transformed in a very short space of time. I'd like to see the story of how this initial upgrade came about (from Cybus to the new design) and then see how they began to upgrade themselves into the threat which would lead into the events detailed in NIS. There's a huge chunk of story to be told in that time period.

Can't stand the Cybermen, my least favourite classic villain.

I think a real great idea for Who would be to reintroduce the original design..

Okay, not exactly like they were in The Tenth Planet, but with a modern makeover you could bring back mostly human cybermen so that they are really quite scary.

The Doctor being the Doctor could meet up with them as he travels in time -so no problem there. You could then add to it, and make it so that it is due to the Doctor's unintentional meddling in time that he leads to the originals capturing the Doctor & doing a "download" of his brain, finding out about the "future history" of their development which attracts the cybermen to want to meet up with a new version of themselves as they have been stuck in the stage 1 of their evolution for a while. They force the Doctor to take them there. The Doctor sees this as an opportunity for the new versions to defeat the originals thereby wiping any advancement of them at all -they would simply vanish (as in Back to the Future). But the twist is because of their human traits the originals beat the new cybermen, with the added twist being at the end of this story arc, because of what happens here and the Doctor's meddling it also leads to the originals wanting to use their defeated counterparts' parts to "upgrade" leading to the whole cycle of events and evolution of the cybermen...

There you go. Now do you finally get a great cyberman story or 2 or 3 there or what??