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Should They Do A ''Second Chance'' Series?
Where 16 candidates who previously appeared in a series and got fired get a second chance?
And who would you like to see get another go? I'd like Miriam from series 1 and Jadine from series 3 for definate. Possibly Paula from series 5 (she did very well on her task as project manager making a very good product and tbh i didn't think he was going to fire her but she got fired over that big mistake with the costing) The woman who got fired in the laundry task in series 4 and Jenny was spared. And several that got fired in Series 4 so that Sophocles could stay, like Raef. |
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Where 16 candidates who previously appeared in a series and got fired get a second chance?
And who would you like to see get another go? I'd like Miriam from series 1 and Jadine from series 3 for definate. Possibly Paula from series 5 (she did very well on her task as project manager making a very good product and tbh i didn't think he was going to fire her but she got fired over that big mistake with the costing) The woman who got fired in the laundry task in series 4 and Jenny was spared. And several that got fired in Series 4 so that Sophocles could stay, like Raef. Here's my dream candidate list: Ifti Chaudhri (so we can see if he really was as good as he thought he was) James Max Raef Bjayou James McQuillan Chris Bates Jim Eastwood Glenn Ward Neil Clough Miriam Staley Karen Bremner Jadine Johnson Shazia Wahab Sara Dhada Jennifer Maguire Paula Jones Gabrielle Omar I really would love to see a series like that, even if it were shorter than an average series. |
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Ifti Chaudhri (so we can see if he really was as good as he thought he was)
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I've actually thought that a limited series featuring candidates from Series 1-6 would be a good idea, to give them a chance at earning the £250,000 investment from Lord Sugar. Here's who I'd cast from each series:
Series 1 - Miriam and Sebastian. Miriam's firing was one of the Sugar's all-time biggest cock-ups, which even he admitted, so she's a shoo-in. Sebastian was a pretty solid candidate all-around who could do with another chance to shine. Series 2 - Alexa and Ansell. Ansell's a pretty obvious one, as he was clearly the most competent of that year's men and the one who genuinely wanted to work with Sugar the most. Alexa... well, I really can't think of any of the other women to bring back! Ruth's so successful now she could probably raise the £250k in ten minutes by calling her rich chums. Karen would never come back given how she was treated. Jo's too much of a loose cannon, and to an (admittedly much lesser) extent Nargis was as well. Sharon would be the obvious candidate, but I think her recent legal troubles would kill any chance of her getting the investment. Series 3 - Jadine and Lohit. The former because Lord Sugar's said more than once what a great candidate she was and how she just came to the show a few years too early, so I'd like to see her put her money where Sugar's mouth is. Lohit, in addition to being a good candidate on the show, has actually set up his own online retailer, so he'd have the experience to make good use of the investment. Series 4 - Alex and Sara. Sara actually admitted the job with Sugar would never have worked out because she prefers to be her own boss, so she'd be an ideal candidate for the new format. Alex did have some good moments on the show and hopefully will have improved with age - or at the very least, would provide some laughs by constantly saying "I'm only 30/31!" Series 5 - Howard and Paula. Howard was a generally very strong candidate and also has experience running his own business, while Paula did a generally pretty good job as a project manager but got taken down by one absolutely horrific mistake. Series 6 - Joanna and Raleigh. Joanna I think was unlucky to be in the last series before the prize changed; had the prize come in that year, and if she kept her attitude in check, I think she'd have walked it. Raleigh got taken out of the show by circumstances beyond his control, so I think he deserves to come back and have a proper go. |
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I've actually thought that a limited series featuring candidates from Series 1-6 would be a good idea, to give them a chance at earning the £250,000 investment from Lord Sugar. Here's who I'd cast from each series:
Series 1 - Miriam and Sebastian. Miriam's firing was one of the Sugar's all-time biggest cock-ups, which even he admitted, so she's a shoo-in. Sebastian was a pretty solid candidate all-around who could do with another chance to shine. Series 2 - Alexa and Ansell. Ansell's a pretty obvious one, as he was clearly the most competent of that year's men and the one who genuinely wanted to work with Sugar the most. Alexa... well, I really can't think of any of the other women to bring back! Ruth's so successful now she could probably raise the £250k in ten minutes by calling her rich chums. Karen would never come back given how she was treated. Jo's too much of a loose cannon, and to an (admittedly much lesser) extent Nargis was as well. Sharon would be the obvious candidate, but I think her recent legal troubles would kill any chance of her getting the investment. Series 3 - Jadine and Lohit. The former because Lord Sugar's said more than once what a great candidate she was and how she just came to the show a few years too early, so I'd like to see her put her money where Sugar's mouth is. Lohit, in addition to being a good candidate on the show, has actually set up his own online retailer, so he'd have the experience to make good use of the investment. Series 4 - Alex and Sara. Sara actually admitted the job with Sugar would never have worked out because she prefers to be her own boss, so she'd be an ideal candidate for the new format. Alex did have some good moments on the show and hopefully will have improved with age - or at the very least, would provide some laughs by constantly saying "I'm only 30/31!" Series 5 - Howard and Paula. Howard was a generally very strong candidate and also has experience running his own business, while Paula did a generally pretty good job as a project manager but got taken down by one absolutely horrific mistake. Series 6 - Joanna and Raleigh. Joanna I think was unlucky to be in the last series before the prize changed; had the prize come in that year, and if she kept her attitude in check, I think she'd have walked it. Raleigh got taken out of the show by circumstances beyond his control, so I think he deserves to come back and have a proper go. |
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I would like to bring Adele from Series 1 back in a 'second chance' series. The reason is that I think that she wasn't in a good place when she did the show in terms of her personal life and worries about her grandma in hospital etc, and that impacted her performance and eventually resulted in her choosing to leave. She was pretty dislikable on the show, but I think that was probably mostly due to stress, as in the few interviews she has done since she has always come across as very pleasant. She has been pretty successful since, so I'd like to give her another chance and see if she could turn it around.
Are we allowing Young Apprentice candidates? I think we should, as they are all now old enough to take part in the adult show. If so, I'd like to give Jordan De Courcy and Hannah Richards another shot. Jordan because I think his biggest mistake was being too arrogant and jumping in to lead a team too quickly, and he was a bit out of his depth. Given that he started a successful business at 12, he is clearly very capable when he's on form. Hannah because on the task she was fired, she was generally a pretty good leader and went based on a really bad decision about who to bring back to the final boardroom. |
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That would be great! I think the only way it would really be viable though is if it was fpr charity.
Here's my dream candidate list: Ifti Chaudhri (so we can see if he really was as good as he thought he was) James Max Raef Bjayou James McQuillan Chris Bates Jim Eastwood Glenn Ward Neil Clough Miriam Staley Karen Bremner Jadine Johnson Shazia Wahab Sara Dhada Jennifer Maguire Paula Jones Gabrielle Omar I really would love to see a series like that, even if it were shorter than an average series. |
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Really? I thought Jim was full of hot air and only average at best but able to charm, I can't see him doing very well. Also i don't think you could mix the 2 formats easily - what would be the prize remembering that with the prize becoming a business partner not only did the prize change but the emphasis on the qualities the candidates should have so mixing wouldn't really be fair imo. If you kept it to the old format and only contestants from up to series 6 (plus maybe Helen from series 7) with the prize being a job at the end of it then maybe. I would definitely like to see more from Ifti as he seemed like he could be a good candidate.
Here's an interesting one. Who would win if you brought back all the first firings and put them in one series? My bet would be Bilyana, as she seemed the most capable out of all of them. (That's entirely hypothetical, without consideration as to whether they would actually come back. Adenike is dead, so she'd be impossible to get anyway.) |
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I'm generally considering just people I'd give a second chance to, not specifically for the prize.
Here's an interesting one. Who would win if you brought back all the first firings and put them in one series? My bet would be Bilyana, as she seemed the most capable out of all of them. (That's entirely hypothetical, without consideration as to whether they would actually come back. Adenike is dead, so she'd be impossible to get anyway.) I often wonder about all those first firings, we never get much of a chance to get to know them and they never get a chance to show much of their abilities as they are only being judged on one task Andy from series 3 for example got stitched up But tbh he did a shocking job and had he not gone in week 1 i could have seen him going in week 2 or 3 or somethingI wouldn't like to see that really arrogant one again, can't remember the name i think he was on series 6 and he was awful. Sugar said to him something like 'can you sit up straight, you look like we're having a natter at the golf club' |
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I was a bit shocked when i heard about Adenike. The first person to ever be fired on the apprentice and dead. Shame
I often wonder about all those first firings, we never get much of a chance to get to know them and they never get a chance to show much of their abilities as they are only being judged on one task Andy from series 3 for example got stitched up But tbh he did a shocking job and had he not gone in week 1 i could have seen him going in week 2 or 3 or somethingI wouldn't like to see that really arrogant one again, can't remember the name i think he was on series 6 and he was awful. Sugar said to him something like 'can you sit up straight, you look like we're having a natter at the golf club' |
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I'm generally considering just people I'd give a second chance to, not specifically for the prize.
Here's an interesting one. Who would win if you brought back all the first firings and put them in one series? My bet would be Bilyana, as she seemed the most capable out of all of them. (That's entirely hypothetical, without consideration as to whether they would actually come back. Adenike is dead, so she'd be impossible to get anyway.) Of the remainder, I think Dan could actually do okay if he softened his attitude and got more directly involved in the tasks. Maybe Edward as well, if he learned to employ his skills where they're suited best. Nicholas wasn't actually particularly awful in the first S4 task (in particular he was proactive enough to spot the pricing error and correct it), but was taken down by a spectacularly inept boardroom performance, so might be able to do better with a second chance. Assuming we brought Lindsay back in Adenike's place, she did show some skill at managing a difficult bunch of women, but things went completely pear-shaped as soon as the Secret Signals got involved. Seemed to be some skills there, but her judgement was suspect to say the least. Anita would definitely be bottom of the pack for me, she really showed nothing at all in the first task of S5. I also wouldn't rate Andy's and Jaz's chances, as they seemed well out of their depth managing the first tasks of their years. |
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I'd say that Bilyana and Ben would definitely be the front-runners, as they both seemed pretty competent compared to the other "fired first" candidates.
Of the remainder, I think Dan could actually do okay if he softened his attitude and got more directly involved in the tasks. Maybe Edward as well, if he learned to employ his skills where they're suited best. Nicholas wasn't actually particularly awful in the first S4 task (in particular he was proactive enough to spot the pricing error and correct it), but was taken down by a spectacularly inept boardroom performance, so might be able to do better with a second chance. Assuming we brought Lindsay back in Adenike's place, she did show some skill at managing a difficult bunch of women, but things went completely pear-shaped as soon as the Secret Signals got involved. Seemed to be some skills there, but her judgement was suspect to say the least. Anita would definitely be bottom of the pack for me, she really showed nothing at all in the first task of S5. I also wouldn't rate Andy's and Jaz's chances, as they seemed well out of their depth managing the first tasks of their years. What annoyed me about Andy was that he was a real coward. He put himself forward as team leader for the boys having no intention of actually doing it, but just wanting to look like he was willing. He then secretly tried to back out of it by persuading Adam to do it instead, but the boys had decided they wanted Andy so he was forced into it, and then moved over to the girls' team. Ironically, Adam seemed quite on the ball to start with, and it would probably have been better for him in the long run to have got to lead the first task. |
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Ironically, Adam seemed quite on the ball to start with, and it would probably have been better for him in the long run to have got to lead the first task.
I quite liked Adam tbh and felt for him in the end. |
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I think poor old Adam got worn down as the weeks went on by the bullying he received from the others, particularly Natalie and Katie who both seemed to really have it in for him and were almost setting him up to fail.
I quite liked Adam tbh and felt for him in the end. What do you think would have happened had he led the first task, instead of Andy? |
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What do you think would have happened had he led the first task, instead of Andy? ) I think he would have had enough sense not to pull the mobile van, that was a really bad move on Andy's part and had he not pulled the van but instead sent Gerri and Naomi to a better location they would have had a better chance of winning.I think if Adam had led the first task and won he might have had a better time on the show. I think some people if they start losing they just go into a downward slope and can't get back up again and that's kinda what happened to him. |
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Hard to say. I think he would have done a better job than Andy (but that's not really saying much
) I think he would have had enough sense not to pull the mobile van, that was a really bad move on Andy's part and had he not pulled the van but instead sent Gerri and Naomi to a better location they would have had a better chance of winning.I think if Adam had led the first task and won he might have had a better time on the show. I think some people if they start losing they just go into a downward slope and can't get back up again and that's kinda what happened to him. Although, would the team leaders have been swapped if Adam had led the first task? It's the only time the teams have ever been mixed from Task 1, and I wondered if maybe Sir Alan did it to make a point to Andy, because what had happened with the boys had been fed back to him. |
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I think the 'swapping the PMs' thing would have been pre-planned, regardless of who was PM, and again, it would have been the producer's decision.
I didn't like that twist at all. |
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I think the 'swapping the PMs' thing would have been pre-planned, regardless of who was PM, and again, it would have been the producer's decision.
I didn't like that twist at all. |
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They did do the "swap the PMs around on the first task" trick once or twice on the US version, so it's possible they got it from there. On the other hand, the UK Series 2 men's team had to resort to selecting their PM at random, so maybe the producers thought they'd throw another cat among the pigeons by swapping them around the following year.
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They did do the "swap the PMs around on the first task" trick once or twice on the US version, so it's possible they got it from there. On the other hand, the UK Series 2 men's team had to resort to selecting their PM at random, so maybe the producers thought they'd throw another cat among the pigeons by swapping them around the following year.
We know that Alan Sugar knew about the discussions that the teams had had, because he made a point of referencing the fact that the boys had chosen a team name that was actually the name of a company that Tre already worked for, and made them change it. I feel like the swapping of team leaders could well have been a result of that as well. Even if it was more for entertainment purposes than actual business reasons, I think the fact that this was the one occasion that the choosing of the team leaders had entertainment value says a lot. |
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And while we're about it, would swapping any of the Week 1 PMs from other series have been especially noticeable?
In any case, another factor in why they haven't done that particular twist since may be the fact that 4 of the 6 subsequent main-series versions have begun with the teams having to do their first task immediately after the initial briefing with Sugar. In those cases swapping the PMs before the task would have been pointless, because they wouldn't have known anyone on the team anyway, whereas Andy and Jadine had to get to know the strengths of their new team-mates in just a few minutes. |
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It definitely would have been in Series 6 and 7! The women's team from the former series was volatile enough as it was; having Dan lead them would have been like throwing a hand grenade into the room. As for Series 7, as annoying as she got later in the series, I have to admit that Melody was an extremely effective project manager on the first task, while Edward... definitely didn't fit the mould of a good manager.
In any case, another factor in why they haven't done that particular twist since may be the fact that 4 of the 6 subsequent main-series versions have begun with the teams having to do their first task immediately after the initial briefing with Sugar. In those cases swapping the PMs before the task would have been pointless, because they wouldn't have known anyone on the team anyway, whereas Andy and Jadine had to get to know the strengths of their new team-mates in just a few minutes. (Also, it's a moot point, but I think Dan in Series 6 may have been slightly different managing the girls. I think a lot of the time men like that are more likely to be dictatorial with other men, and softer when dealing with women.) |
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I'm generally considering just people I'd give a second chance to, not specifically for the prize.
Here's an interesting one. Who would win if you brought back all the first firings and put them in one series? My bet would be Bilyana, as she seemed the most capable out of all of them. (That's entirely hypothetical, without consideration as to whether they would actually come back. Adenike is dead, so she'd be impossible to get anyway.) I wasn't much of an Adam fan myself and thought he was just a little out of place and almost but not completely out of his depth on the show - but all credit to him for doing as well as he did, I just don't think he is made of stuff that could compete a second time round and if anything he would probably go sooner as there are plenty of stronger candidates from other series that would be in the running. I liked Jason from last year quite a bit and he seemed to be genuinely nice and fairly smart, unfortunately I don't see him being "compatible" with Sir Alan so would never be able to do well even though I can see him having potential. |
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So you think it was coincidence that on the one series when there was a very interesting debate about who should be the Project Manager, which involved someone putting themselves up, secretly backing down and then being pressured into doing it, the PMs were swapped, when this has not happened on any other series?
When the show moved to BBC1, they would have wanted to make it as interesting as possible... The producers would have brainstormed a twist to spice up the first episode, in my honest opinion. |
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Simple answer, yes. It's hardly unbelievable, is it?
When the show moved to BBC1, they would have wanted to make it as interesting as possible... The producers would have brainstormed a twist to spice up the first episode, in my honest opinion. |
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