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Old 03-07-2014, 00:20
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Where 16 candidates who previously appeared in a series and got fired get a second chance?

And who would you like to see get another go?

I'd like Miriam from series 1 and Jadine from series 3 for definate. Possibly Paula from series 5 (she did very well on her task as project manager making a very good product and tbh i didn't think he was going to fire her but she got fired over that big mistake with the costing)

The woman who got fired in the laundry task in series 4 and Jenny was spared.

And several that got fired in Series 4 so that Sophocles could stay, like Raef.
Wouldn't work because the people he really shouldn't have fired, or who should have won include the ones who have been most successful since - like James, Susan Liz or Helen, and they wouldn't do it. Many of the unfair dismissals have gone back to their professional qualifications, and become very successful in the professional or corporate world Lord Sugar dislikes so much. You could be left with the remaining people who should have stayed into the last 6 weeks , but went early . You also hit the problem that the earlier series people might have difficulty meeting the new prize winning criteria. None of them look like winners -. so you would be relying on someone doing significantly better, If you cast the week one sackings, you end up with a mix of people who should have gone in week one and should still go then, and those who ought to make it nearer the interviews stage but go before that.

The ones with issues Lord Sugar unfairly doesn't like will still have them, and he either has the Tres and Jims and Stuarts back for comedy value, or the show has no comedy. You end up with the doomed big losing characters we have seen before, or a hole in the show. If you don't rerun them you have the also rans in the middle , without the stars, and the line up misses the other key characters they cast for.

If I went for a mix of the best people who left in the last stages, the smartest early leavers, people with obvious missed potential, dumb firings, or real Sugar like qualities I would end up with 16 of Miriam, Ansell, Alexa. Jadine, Ghazal, Simon Smith,Jennifer, Debra, Howard, Sandeesh, Joanna, Laura, Liz, Susan, Zoe, Nick, Bilyana , Uzma and Francesca. The number of under appreciated females, and lack of underperforming males itself says something - often because he kept male flim flam artistes over better females.

A runners up series would be better, but they are too successful and that series would raise too many questions about some very doubtful winners - you can't have the runners up without really challenging who won.
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Old 03-07-2014, 00:40
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Do you have a reason for thinking that, or is it just a guess? Of course, mine is just personal conjecture also, but I do feel that my theory is considerably more likely than yours, given that yours tends to involve quite a bit coincidence.
WWell,yes, it's just a guess, but of course they would have wanted to make it as interesting as possible to the mainstream audience of BBC1.

And the coincidence, which is exactly what it is, is that they had a disagreement over who would be PM, and the PMs were swapped. I just don't understand how that's unbelievable. I believe my theory is more likely than yours, but then of course I would.
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Old 03-07-2014, 00:48
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It definitely would have been in Series 6 and 7! The women's team from the former series was volatile enough as it was; having Dan lead them would have been like throwing a hand grenade into the room. As for Series 7, as annoying as she got later in the series, I have to admit that Melody was an extremely effective project manager on the first task, while Edward... definitely didn't fit the mould of a good manager.

Actually, I think that the women's team on Series 7 was worse (in terms of being volatile).

In Series 6 most of the actual fighting put Laura in the centre of it (ok, except for Melissa, but she was a bit unhinged).

In Series 7, you had Susan, Melody, Natasha, Edna and obviously Zoe.
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Old 03-07-2014, 17:18
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I don't think this would work but what I would like to see is the Junior Apprentices to come back for a 12 week process.. the particularly strong ones anyway like the winners of the series and semi finalists potentially ... those who submitted strongest business plans or whatever. They all showed a lot of potential now, with most of them would be in the age of 19-22, they'd have become stronger and able to run a successful business. I think that would be a brilliant series. I think its the most ideal age for candidates to be on the Apprentice. I don't think anyone who's 30 to 40 is really "Apprentice" material. They aren't really going to develop or change as their background in work structured the way they do things.
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Old 03-07-2014, 17:22
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I don't think this would work but what I would like to see is the Junior Apprentices to come back for a 12 week process.. the particularly strong ones anyway like the winners of the series and semi finalists potentially ... those who submitted strongest business plans or whatever. They all showed a lot of potential now, with most of them would be in the age of 19-22, they'd have become stronger and able to run a successful business. I think that would be a brilliant series. I think its the most ideal age for candidates to be on the Apprentice. I don't think anyone who's 30 to 40 is really "Apprentice" material. They aren't really going to develop or change as their background in work structured the way they do things.
That would be good - I wouldn't include the winners, because they got investment anyway, but the people who got to the semi-finals but didn't win? That would be fourteen in all, the same as the original two series.

Boys:
Andrew
Harry H
Harry M
James
Patrick
Steven
Tim

Girls:
Emma
Haya
Kirsty
Lizzie
Lucy
Maria
Zoe
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Old 03-07-2014, 19:21
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I think I would include winners as £250,000 in 50/50 share business is a lot different; I doubt they'd do it anyway. I hope the Apprentice candidates are younger and more bright this year; if you think of last year, Jazz showed that with age, common sense doesn't always get better. Probably up there with worst managers of all time.
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Old 05-07-2014, 03:05
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That would be good - I wouldn't include the winners, because they got investment anyway, but the people who got to the semi-finals but didn't win? That would be fourteen in all, the same as the original two series.

Boys:
Andrew
Harry H
Harry M
James
Patrick
Steven
Tim

Girls:
Emma
Haya
Kirsty
Lizzie
Lucy
Maria
Zoe
You couldn't do it now as lots of those are in university still.For example -two of the boys were at the LSE last time I looked on linkedin. Maria is studying Law at another Russell Group university. Several of the others, including the last person one would expect to, have avoided getting degrees gone corporate and got themselves into accountancy / consultancy/investment firms. I haven't found one who was really good who is actually doing the entrepreneurial thing - though some like Kirsty seem too difficult to find..
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Old 05-07-2014, 10:35
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You couldn't do it now as lots of those are in university still.For example -two of the boys were at the LSE last time I looked on linkedin. Maria is studying Law at another Russell Group university. Several of the others, including the last person one would expect to, have avoided getting degrees gone corporate and got themselves into accountancy / consultancy/investment firms. I haven't found one who was really good who is actually doing the entrepreneurial thing - though some like Kirsty seem too difficult to find..
I think this is all hypothetical...
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