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is it time to scrap the second round?
Absolute waste of time. All the group winners progressed. No upsets.
Maybe they could introduce 2 legged quarter finals to the winners of each group, much better than pointless second round games |
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Absolute waste of time. All the group winners progressed. No upsets.
Maybe they could introduce 2 legged quarter finals to the winners of each group, much better than pointless second round games |
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Some teams winning matches isn't a reason to change the structure of the competition, no.
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I don't agree with the OP suggestion.
However the stats of Group winners making the QFs have shown an increasing trend in recent years. 1998 6 2002 4 2006 6 2010 7 2014 8 |
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Some teams winning matches isn't a reason to change the structure of the competition, no.
Nearly every game has been close. 2 went to penalties Another 3 (from memory) went to ET Late goals in Netherlands game to win in normal time It's hardly been a walk in the park for the group winners. |
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Absolute waste of time. All the group winners progressed. No upsets.
Maybe they could introduce 2 legged quarter finals to the winners of each group, much better than pointless second round games |
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As pointed out it would render the group stages almost meaningless if only one team per group progressed. May as well cut it down to 16 countries in that case.
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so because for the first time ever all group winners won their last 16 tie all of a sudden the last 16 isn't needed ?
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Let's also not forget that there were a few surprise group winners.
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I wonder if a second placed team (in the group) has ever won the World Cup?
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I wonder if a second placed team (in the group) has ever won the World Cup?
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Italy finished 2nd in the initial round of group games in 1982 when they won it. There was then a 2nd phase of group games which they topped then the semi's and final. 24 teams back then.
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I wonder if a second placed team (in the group) has ever won the World Cup?
In 1990 Argentina finished 3rd in their group and still made it to the final. |
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I wonder if a second placed team (in the group) has ever won the World Cup?
Argentina in 1978. Italy in 1982.
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I wonder if a second placed team (in the group) has ever won the World Cup?
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Italy finished 2nd in the initial round of group games in 1982 when they won it. There was then a 2nd phase of group games which they topped then the semi's and final. 24 teams back then.
West Germany in 1974 finished 2nd in their group behind East Germany. West Germany in 1954 finished 2nd in their group behind Hungary, although the format was slightly different. |
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Italy in 1982 I think.
In 1990 Argentina finished 3rd in their group and still made it to the final. |
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Argentina in 1978 finished 2nd in their group behind Italy.
West Germany in 1974 finished 2nd in their group behind East Germany. West Germany in 1954 finished 2nd in their group behind Hungary, although the format was slightly different.
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Well remembered re Argentina. Yes they were one of the 4 best 3rd placed teams out of a group of 6. Confusing eh! I preferred the 1982 format for a 24 team tournament.
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Let's also not forget that there were a few surprise group winners.
Netherlands were 2 minutes away from going out and Brazil almost went so its not like the group winners had it easy. |
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Let's also not forget that there were a few surprise group winners.
Maybe to spice it up bit teams who finish bottom of the group should be barred from the next world cup |
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I'm assuming that UEFA will be using the 1986/1990 World Cup format for the 2016 European Championships in France now that has become a 24 team tournament?
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Biggest overreaction in this World Cup forum to date.
Can't see this one being beaten yet. |
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I'm assuming that UEFA will be using the 1986/1990 World Cup format for the 2016 European Championships in France now that has become a 24 team tournament?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Schedule 6 groups of 4 teams Winners, runners up and 4 best 3rd place teams through the 2nd round. |
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They should put all 32 teams through to the play off rounds.
That would keep english interest for amother game! |
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Full schedule here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2016#Schedule 6 groups of 4 teams Winners, runners up and 4 best 3rd place teams through the 2nd round.
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