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Old 03-07-2014, 13:34
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I sure i read some where that shoppingtelly would not be broadcast on Local TV.

Information from. http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/industry/...annel_listings
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Old 03-07-2014, 14:17
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Am sure when the Local MUX started, it was said that a shopping channel would be one of the channels, just didn't expect it to be another QVC channel.
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Old 03-07-2014, 14:39
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(from the changelog)
This is on Crystal Palace as well, so presumably on all local Muxes. No audio/video/MHEG at the moment.
It has appeared in all three local LCN tables from Winter Hill too, and video & audio are not yet in place on the Manchester petal.
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Old 03-07-2014, 15:15
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Lcn 57
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Old 03-07-2014, 15:20
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Video and audio appeared just after 3pm:

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PID found: 1401 (0x0579)  [PS/PES: ITU-T Rec. H.262 | ISO/IEC 13818-2 or ISO/IEC 11172-2 video stream]
PID found: 1402 (0x057a)  [PS/PES: ISO/IEC 13818-3 or ISO/IEC 11172-3 audio stream]
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Old 03-07-2014, 15:53
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QVC Extra Looks much better than QVC too thanks to the higher resolution.
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I'm also seeing 9 other blank services all with a single unique PID for PMT. (Waltham)

http://i.imgur.com/dGUr7gP.png
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Old 03-07-2014, 18:13
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What is the maximum channel capacity for the local MUX?
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Old 03-07-2014, 18:46
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What is the maximum channel capacity for the local MUX?
3 channels (or 3 simultaneous video streams, more precisely)
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Old 03-07-2014, 19:03
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QVC Extra Looks much better than QVC too thanks to the higher resolution.
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I'm also seeing 9 other blank services all with a single unique PID for PMT. (Waltham)

http://i.imgur.com/dGUr7gP.png
The Service IDs listed against the LCN 0 services on your screen capture are unique to services on the D3&4 multiplex. It looks as if the configuration has corrupted at some point. (The PMT PID numbers would also be as expected for D3&4.)

You should have those service IDs listed against 738000 for Waltham.
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Old 03-07-2014, 21:17
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So is that the Local Mux full.Or is there still some unused spaces?
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Old 03-07-2014, 21:45
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The Service IDs listed against the LCN 0 services on your screen capture are unique to services on the D3&4 multiplex. It looks as if the configuration has corrupted at some point. (The PMT PID numbers would also be as expected for D3&4.)

You should have those service IDs listed against 738000 for Waltham.
It would appear that you are correct!

looks like I'll have to re-do the tvheadend config at some point.. Joy.
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Old 03-07-2014, 22:57
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So is that the Local Mux full.Or is there still some unused spaces?
No - it's now full.

3 x 2.5Mbps fixed rate video, 0.65Mbps Audio, 0.55Mbps tables vs. Total capacity of Mux = 9Mbps
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Old 03-07-2014, 23:04
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How flexible is the licence? Could they add a local radio station to the mux?
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Old 09-07-2014, 21:51
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Why is the video only fixed rate and not variable?
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Old 10-07-2014, 07:58
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Why is the video only fixed rate and not variable?
I imagine because it is a lot cheaper to do....
As you just need to code up one version and mux it into each local mux,

To stat mux each each mux would require 3 stat muxed encoders per station
Rather than on fixed rate coder per station plus two UK wide coder and a simple mux..
And in any case there is very litte stat mux gain from three sources.
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Old 10-07-2014, 13:48
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Think it would be better to have three local radio stations then QVC Extra.

North East:

Made in Tyne and Wear
Star Radio
Metro Radio
NE1 FM
Chart Show TV/POP

North West:

Same as above with the local radio stations of the North West

Leeds/Yorkshire:

Yorkshire Radio
Made In Leeds TV
Two other local stations
Chart Show TV/POP
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Old 10-07-2014, 20:54
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But will the local radio stations pay as much as a TV channel?
After all this is the way that local TV emission is being subsidised.

And any thing which has more than one coder per local mux will cost more ... Fir capital equipment ....
I cannot se the BBC who are funding this to the tune if £25 million being very happy at the extra costs ,
........ And in OPex ..
. Radio back haul, extra monitoring by Comux,, extra EPG costs by digital uk. Different monitoring by Arqiva. Etc , etc....

I'm sure if someone (the radio stations) pay .. The regulation could be changed
But is it likely ?
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Old 10-07-2014, 22:03
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Think it would be better to have three local radio stations then QVC Extra.

North East:

Made in Tyne and Wear
Star Radio
Metro Radio
NE1 FM
Chart Show TV/POP

North West:

Same as above with the local radio stations of the North West

Leeds/Yorkshire:

Yorkshire Radio
Made In Leeds TV
Two other local stations
Chart Show TV/POP
Woah, where would the money come from?

Being Newcastle based I would look at those three possible North East stations and say:

Metro Radio: part of the Bauer group, if the price was right they probably could justify paying for a Freeview radio slot

Star Radio: as a multi-town communtiy-radio station with low-power FM transmitters in those towns, the Freeview radio slot is going to have to be very cheap as they are likely operating on a shoestring

NE1 FM: with a single FM transmitter in Gateshead which struggles to reach some parts of Newcastle, this community station is never going to be able to afford the cost of a Freeview radio license unless it is actually given to them for free. I don't know anything about their finances, but I suspect it is almost entirely volunteer run.
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