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What did Da Silva do wrong to get the yellow ?
DangerBrother
05-07-2014
Thought this deserved a thread as basically Brazil have now lost their skipper, and everyone seems to (understandably) be focusing on Neymar.

I honestly do not think Da Silva did anything wrong.

It wasn't a physical challenge, in fact I think he was a bit surprised to have the goalie throw the ball in front of him.
shaggy_x
05-07-2014
It might not have been intentional but still deserved a yellow IMHO
Mark F
05-07-2014
Its a automatic yellow card when you do that even if it seems soft.
ellieb123
05-07-2014
What I found ridiculous was that it was something so innocuous that got the referee to get his yellow card out of his pocket for the first time in the match. Apparently all the tackles flying in everywhere were fine!
NiteOwl12
05-07-2014
His thoroughly deserved yellow card is possibly the most stupid way to be suspended from a semi-final in the history of the world cup and from a referee who had lost control of the game in the first few minutes. Thiago Silva must be very relieved the Brazilian media is focussing on Neymar's injury and not on him.
DangerBrother
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Mark F:
“Its a automatic yellow card when you do that even if it seems soft.”


Do what though ?

I can not see what the foul was, he was running back, suddenly their goalie threw the ball up in front of him.

What is the deemed foul here ? Obstruction / challenging a goalie on a kick out (?). I thnk he was innocent of both either way.
NiteOwl12
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by ellieb123:
“What I found ridiculous was that it was something so innocuous that got the referee to get his yellow card out of his pocket for the first time in the match. Apparently all the tackles flying in everywhere were fine!”

Yes, but Thiago Silva's infringement directly and almost instantaneously led to a 'goal', forcing a weak, inadequate referee to take action. It takes a really special type of stupidity to do that. I expect Thomas Mueller is still laughing.
carnoch04
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by DangerBrother:
“Do what though ?

I can not see what the foul was, he was running back, suddenly their goalie threw the ball up in front of him.

What is the deemed foul here ? Obstruction / challenging a goalie on a kick out (?). I thnk he was innocent of both either way.”

No, the keeper threw the ball up to kick it and Silva stepped across him . Have another look.
codeblue
05-07-2014
The keeper is still deemed to be in control of the ball and cannot be tackled.
DangerBrother
05-07-2014
Thanks for the answers above, I was guessing that was the supposed offence, but had not heard it clearly stated anywhere just that he was "daft".

I will have a few re checks later to see if he did deliberately run into the goalies path, though from memory I really felt he was very unlucky to have been judged to do so.
Tourista
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by DangerBrother:
“Thanks for the answers above, I was guessing that was the supposed offence, but had not heard it clearly stated anywhere just that he was "daft".

I will have a few re checks later to see if he did deliberately run into the goalies path, though from memory I really felt he was very unlucky to have been judged to do so.”

He clearly ran in front of the keeper to stop him from kicking the ball and so instigating a Columbian break with the Brazilian defensive unit mostly in the Columbian half.

That's a yellow card offence any day of the week.
walterwhite
05-07-2014
Clear yellow card offence, ref was right.
jenzie
05-07-2014
blundering into the goalkeeper while he was taking the kick!
STILL AN IDIOT
mikeyddd
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“He clearly ran in front of the keeper to stop him from kicking the ball and so instigating a Columbian break with the Brazilian defensive unit mostly in the Columbian half.

That's a yellow card offence any day of the week.”

This, but didn't he also kick the ball "away" after the whistle was blown to compound the issue.
gemma-the-husky
06-07-2014
you don't seem to be able to do it now. There was no foul - t don't think Tiago touched the goalie, and the ball was in mid air, so I don't think it should have been a booking

George Best did this to Gordon Banks, but the goal was disallowed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8IW_3_6D8

(I thought he did it to Pat Jennings, but I can't find it, so it must have been the above one)

Here's some others
http://bobbyfc.com/?p=1984
Tourista
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“you don't seem to be able to do it now. There was no foul - t don't think Tiago touched the goalie,”

He doesn't need to touch the goalie.

He interfered with play, simple as that. No doubt that it was a yellow card offence.
gemma-the-husky
06-07-2014
It wasn't a dead ball was it? I thought the goalkeeper was just clearing the ball out of his hand. See the links I just posted.
carnoch04
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“It wasn't a dead ball was it? I thought the goalkeeper was just clearing the ball out of his hand. See the links I just posted.”

Is that the links to the disallowed goals by George Best and Henry?
walterwhite
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by gemma-the-husky:
“you don't seem to be able to do it now. There was no foul - t don't think Tiago touched the goalie, and the ball was in mid air, so I don't think it should have been a booking

George Best did this to Gordon Banks, but the goal was disallowed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2D8IW_3_6D8

(I thought he did it to Pat Jennings, but I can't find it, so it must have been the above one)

Here's some others
http://bobbyfc.com/?p=1984”

It is an offence under current rules, a yellow card was the correct decision. Not sure what relevance George Best and Gordon Banks have to this.
MR. Macavity
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“He doesn't need to touch the goalie.

He interfered with play, simple as that. No doubt that it was a yellow card offence.”

Its actually been a feature of this tournament that most people - especially pundits - don't seem to realise there doesn't have to be ANY contact between players for a foul to be given - merely ATTEMPTING to kick, trip etc an opponent is a foul - that's not to say it will always be given obviously!
rhynoGB
06-07-2014
I think the ref had lost complete control and was going to book the next stupid infringement by any player.
Definate yellow card, he tried stopping the keeper start an attack. Stupid way to miss a semi-final.
alanrollins
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“It is an offence under current rules, a yellow card was the correct decision. Not sure what relevance George Best and Gordon Banks have to this.”

Correct, had cards been dished out the same in those days, and under current rules, Best would have been booked.

Codeblue also makes a key point, the keeper is still deemed to be in possession.

Silva was correctly booked and the referees failure to book others for crude challenges is an irrelevance.
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