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Moffat's "Massive cliffhanger" = Series 9 or 10th anniversary of New Who?
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Antimon_Bush
05-07-2014
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/moffat-...nger-64015.htm

Last week, Moffat said that there will be a massive cliffhanger in the end of Series 8. Most people concluded that this means that Moffat announced Series 9. I really like Moffat and I really hope that he will stay in ninth season.
There is one thing that just came to my mind. Maybe he announced 10th anniversary special(s) of New Who. It would be quite logical because 10th anniversary special(s) should be in the March next year (after season 8).
Maybe that cliffhanger involves the appearance of old companions/Doctors...

So, what do you think?
bp2
05-07-2014
I thought the massive cliffhanger was in the penultimate episode of series 9.
daveyboy7472
05-07-2014
If it's anything like the previous 'massive' cliffhanger at the end of the first half of Series 6, I shan't get excited about it..............
Mulett
05-07-2014
The only cliffhanger I want at the end of Season 8 is; "Who will be the new executive producer/lead writer?"
alphonsus
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“The only cliffhanger I want at the end of Season 8 is; "Who will be the new executive producer/lead writer?"”

Sadly i have to concur. Moffat can write some awesome stuff, but he is (IMO) overly impressed with his own cleverness and lets 'being clever' get in the way of a decent storyline - look at the first episode of the most recent series of Sherlock. If you take out all the 'how did he survive stuff', which comprised half of the airtime, what's left was actually rather tedious. The Time of the Doctor, which should have been an epic swan-song for Smith, suffered from the same flaw. I think he should stick to what he clearly does best: tightly scripted single or double stories, but leave story arcs to someone else. And stop mucking about with 'multi-time-zone' stories. They've been done to death now.
Corwin
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Antimon_Bush:
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So, what do you think?”

Moffat was talking about the penultimate episode of Series 9.

Why would he only be thinking up a cliffhanger for the penultimate episode of Series 8 during the filming of the Series 8 finale?


I know things can be rewritten late on between the original script and what's actually filmed but if Moffat is only thinking up the script while they are actually filming they are in a bit of trouble.
CD93
05-07-2014
I love seeing Moffat troll - people get so worked up.

It will be the lead-in to his grand finale as EP, of course it will be big.
Rooks
05-07-2014
They are unlikely to celebrate the 10th anniversary of New Who. Would they really wheel out David Tennant again so soon after The Day of the Doctor? And has Matt Smith simply been gone from the role long enough to make his return special?. I'd argue no on both counts.

And frankly The Day of the Doctor was far more a celebration of New Who than Classic anyway. It dealt with a major storyline that was introduced with the new series and it had only new series Doctors and companions (in any major sense). Sure we had some nods to the past but largely that was a story about the new series.

It's simply too soon to really have another anniversary episode in my opinion. You may get some nods to the New Who past but I'd be stunned if they did anything that could be described as an anniversary story in March 2015 (frankly I'd be surprised to see any episodes between Jan and Aug next year). At best you might get a DWM special edition but little else.

In regard to SM's statement of a "Massive Cliffhanger". He's rather prone to over-hyping the show (as is part of his job) but very rarely does his hype match the end result.
saladfingers81
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by alphonsus:
“Sadly i have to concur. Moffat can write some awesome stuff, but he is (IMO) overly impressed with his own cleverness and lets 'being clever' get in the way of a decent storyline - look at the first episode of the most recent series of Sherlock. If you take out all the 'how did he survive stuff', which comprised half of the airtime, what's left was actually rather tedious. The Time of the Doctor, which should have been an epic swan-song for Smith, suffered from the same flaw. I think he should stick to what he clearly does best: tightly scripted single or double stories, but leave story arcs to someone else. And stop mucking about with 'multi-time-zone' stories. They've been done to death now.”

Could you list for me 'all' these multi time zone stories you speak of? I think I might have inadvertently missed a few episodes...
rhynoGB
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“They are unlikely to celebrate the 10th anniversary of New Who. Would they really wheel out David Tennant again so soon after The Day of the Doctor? And has Matt Smith simply been gone from the role long enough to make his return special?. I'd argue no on both counts.”

I think seeing Tennant again, really boosted the ratings. People love seeing him as the Doctor, whether certain people like it or not. Matt Smith would return I feel for a short few scenes, not a whole epsisode though. He wouldn't want to become to typecast.
I would be surprised to see CE come back for a brief appearence as well. nothing huge, just a small scene with Billy Piper maybe.

I also don't want massive hype for it. Low key, normal episode with a few surprises thrown in.
Antimon_Bush
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rooks:
“They are unlikely to celebrate the 10th anniversary of New Who. Would they really wheel out David Tennant again so soon after The Day of the Doctor? And has Matt Smith simply been gone from the role long enough to make his return special?. I'd argue no on both counts.”

I think that 10th anniversary could be more focused on old companions and enemies, because (as you said) we already saw Tennant and Smith in the 50th.

Although I'd like to see Tennant and Smith back, even though we've seen them recently
kjwilly
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by alphonsus:
“Sadly i have to concur. Moffat can write some awesome stuff, but he is (IMO) overly impressed with his own cleverness and lets 'being clever' get in the way of a decent storyline - look at the first episode of the most recent series of Sherlock. If you take out all the 'how did he survive stuff', which comprised half of the airtime, what's left was actually rather tedious. .”

You DO know that Moffatt did not write that episode of Sherlock, don't you? # whyletfactsgetinthewayofyouropinion
Rozes
05-07-2014
The Doctor and The Master fall down the Reichenbach Falls
CAMERA OBSCURA
05-07-2014
Could be the lead into the end of 12’s search for Gallifrey.
Theophile
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Mulett:
“The only cliffhanger I want at the end of Season 8 is; "Who will be the new executive producer/lead writer?"”

Amen, Amen and Amen.

Go do lots of Sherlock, Moffat and leave the Timelord alone.
joe_000
05-07-2014
I Take his comments with a pinch of salt. He brags so much about what he's written and it's usually a big let down for me. So I won't get too excited.
Michael_Eve
05-07-2014
Doctor Who Show Runner Exclusive!!!!!

"Well, we think it's pretty exciting, but you know, decide for yourselves. If you want to have a look, that is. Anyone else likes it, it's a bonus, really."

Can we add a RTD v SM poll...who was the biggest Hype-er?

(That doesn't sound right. Hype-ist? Hypemeister? Hyper-crit?)

I'll get my....etc.
CD93
05-07-2014
Moffat wants to get the world talking and as usual, it has succeeded. Any publicity and all that...
Philip_Lamb
05-07-2014
Awwww Jesus ! Not another multi series arc. He couldn't pull it off the last time so why's he trying it again
CD93
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Philip_Lamb:
“Awwww Jesus ! Not another multi series arc. He couldn't pull it off the last time so why's he trying it again”

No mention of that. Mentions his previous one, but not a new one.
sw2963
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rozes:
“The Doctor and The Master fall down the Reichenbach Falls ”

Very good!
sw2963
05-07-2014
Originally Posted by kjwilly:
“You DO know that Moffatt did not write that episode of Sherlock, don't you? # whyletfactsgetinthewayofyouropinion”

Exactly. Mark wrote it.
Airborae
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Antimon_Bush:
“http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/moffat-...nger-64015.htm

Last week, Moffat said that there will be a massive cliffhanger in the end of Series 8. Most people concluded that this means that Moffat announced Series 9. I really like Moffat and I really hope that he will stay in ninth season.
There is one thing that just came to my mind. Maybe he announced 10th anniversary special(s) of New Who. It would be quite logical because 10th anniversary special(s) should be in the March next year (after season 8).
Maybe that cliffhanger involves the appearance of old companions/Doctors...

So, what do you think?”

It wasn't the Time Lords who gave the Doctor a new regeneration cycle? Now that's what I'd call a cliffhanger.
The War Doctor
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by alphonsus:
“Sadly i have to concur. Moffat can write some awesome stuff, but he is (IMO) overly impressed with his own cleverness and lets 'being clever' get in the way of a decent storyline - look at the first episode of the most recent series of Sherlock. If you take out all the 'how did he survive stuff', which comprised half of the airtime, what's left was actually rather tedious. The Time of the Doctor, which should have been an epic swan-song for Smith, suffered from the same flaw. I think he should stick to what he clearly does best: tightly scripted single or double stories, but leave story arcs to someone else. And stop mucking about with 'multi-time-zone' stories. They've been done to death now.”

This is pretty much how I feel too. I'll probably always prefer RTD to SM, but there is no denying that SM's stories are more solid when he writes single/double stories. When he tries to be really clever, it doesn't work. And it's not just the stories that suffer, the characters suffer too. Most of them are either bland or insufferable. There is no development, and nothing seems to work.

Personally, I don't think story arcs belong on Doctor Who. One of the great things about RTD's stories was that you could just switch on and chill out. You didn't have to sit there and remember something that happened months ago.
inspector drake
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by The War Doctor:
“This is pretty much how I feel too. I'll probably always prefer RTD to SM, but there is no denying that SM's stories are more solid when he writes single/double stories. When he tries to be really clever, it doesn't work. And it's not just the stories that suffer, the characters suffer too. Most of them are either bland or insufferable. There is no development, and nothing seems to work.

Personally, I don't think story arcs belong on Doctor Who. One of the great things about RTD's stories was that you could just switch on and chill out. You didn't have to sit there and remember something that happened months ago.”

Or, if you did, there would be appropriate explanations or flashbacks.
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