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Results:Should the Slater Moons get the axe?
Keep them, they are a good family
47 (54.02%)
Get rid of them
40 (45.98%)
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Is it time for the Slater-Moons to leave?
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CherryRose
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scrabbler:
“So there has been a lot of talk that Eastenders needs to do more to represent the multicultural society we live in. However it already boasts a large cast and therefore some of the existing characters would need to leave.

The Beales and Mitchells cannot be axed as that would damage the show. The Carter's are new and fresh and there is lots of potential for them. Then there is the Branning/Jackson's who also have mileage left in them.

But it's a different story for Kat, Alfie and co. No one wants to see Kat cheat again ir see Alfie conduct another failed business attempt. They have been through so much in a short space of time that they have simply run out of steam. Mo has been replaced by Cora and Babe, we don't need three gangster granny's on the square. As for Stacey, while I did once adore the character is also exhausted.

I really do feel that axing this clan would be the best thing in the long run, it will open up spaces for four more characters who could help rejuvenate the a Foxes and Masood families.”

Get rid of Kat and Stacey! No!!!!!!! Never!!!!

I love the Slaters, however I do think Alfie brings the family down. I think his character is deadwood has no future, where the rest (Mo, Kat and Stacey) have potential. I do think Kats pregnancy storyline is a huge mistake and I would also like to see possibly bringing back Little Mo or Jean to strengthen the family even further.


A great storyline for Kat would be the death of Alife Moon.

The friend partnership of Mo and Cora would be brilliant!
Ozboz3
06-07-2014
No you have to keep them. They are an iconic family that has a lot of history of the show. I love the characters of Kat and Alfie and once the twins come along( and Jessie returns from her break) then they will have fresh storylines. I also love Mo who I think should be brought back permenantly and Stacey is also returning full time in the summer! Keep them!
Kim_x
06-07-2014
Just curious as to what kinds of storylines people would give Kat if they killed off Alfie? He's a necessary calming influence on her in my opinion, and with him around, they can do more with Kat without her getting a hard time for her childcare arrangements (as seemed to be the case with Bianca and Roxy) if he is around.

The pregnancy was a good move I think. It's about characters of the future. Zoe's pretty much history given that Michelle Ryan is highly unlikely to return and recasting her would be controversial, because of her storylines while she was in the show and how similar she and Jessie look (the whole idea for You Ain't My Muvver came from that.) Discount Zoe and had they not made her pregnant again we'd have had Tommy as a future link to Kat and that would have been it, apart from a few grandkids from Zoe perhaps. She's too iconic to be left with so few links. It's different for characters like Michael who could quite believably have long lost kids turn up, being the kind of person who probably wouldn't have hung around long enough to find out whether women were pregnant.

Plus we have the angle that finally, Kat gets to raise her children from day one.
vald
06-07-2014
Keeping Kat without Alfie would be a big mistake IMO. The square is awash with single parents struggling to bring up their children alone. We need families.
adamski94
06-07-2014
I actually think we need more slaters
Ell_Ren
06-07-2014
I can't see Alfie without Kat or Kat without Alfie so if they left, for me, it would have to be together.

I'd rather see another new family or expansion of the Masoods, Cottons, Foxs over more Slaters. Didn't like them, besides Jean and Kat, the first time round.
Collins1965
06-07-2014
Voted get rid but it's Alfie I really want to see the back of. Kat would be better off without him but now she's going to have 3 young children so I don't know how it would work. Maybe Zoe could come back and help her raise them. I wish they would kill Alfie off.

I also would love Mo to go and Charlie to come back.
RetroMusicFan
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Kim_x:
“Just curious as to what kinds of storylines people would give Kat if they killed off Alfie? He's a necessary calming influence on her in my opinion, and with him around, they can do more with Kat without her getting a hard time for her childcare arrangements (as seemed to be the case with Bianca and Roxy) if he is around.

The pregnancy was a good move I think. It's about characters of the future. Zoe's pretty much history given that Michelle Ryan is highly unlikely to return and recasting her would be controversial, because of her storylines while she was in the show and how similar she and Jessie look (the whole idea for You Ain't My Muvver came from that.) Discount Zoe and had they not made her pregnant again we'd have had Tommy as a future link to Kat and that would have been it, apart from a few grandkids from Zoe perhaps. She's too iconic to be left with so few links. It's different for characters like Michael who could quite believably have long lost kids turn up, being the kind of person who probably wouldn't have hung around long enough to find out whether women were pregnant.

Plus we have the angle that finally, Kat gets to raise her children from day one.”


This!

I often wonder myself what would happen to Kat if something happened to Alfie, he is her anchor, her fundament, her sanctuary, who would she tell her problems to? Who would she go to to feel safe?

Alfie knows practically everything about her warts and all and he still loves her who else would be like that? Who else would understand?

They were best mates before they got together and they still are!

And Kat's pregnant with twins and in her forties, she and ths kids need stability, they need a DAD and that's Alfie, he's a great dad, look at him with Tommy who isn't even his and that time he and Luke larked about with Tommy and Lily when they were painting, those kids loved Alfie!

I know he isn't a favourite on here because of his buffoonery and he was a bit of a twit last week but people forget he has a good side too!
RichmondBlue
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Broken_Arrow:
“Kat and Alfie should never have returned in the first place. Their story was concluded. All that has happened is that their return storylines have pissed all over the great ending they got in 2005. The Alfie character was always an annoyance but he has reached new levels of irritation this time around. Kat used to be great but her chracterisation is dreadful these days. She's one of the few characters DTC has completely gotten wrong and after the hatchet job Kirkwood did on her it only took an instant to undo Newman's Kat redemption. Jessie's acting has been pretty poor of late. A lot less than she's capable of. If sentimentality were to be taken out of the equation then it's obvious there's nowhere left for these characters to go. I'd also get rid of the abysmally repetitive Big Mo and put a stop to Stacey's undoubted car crash in the making of a return. The Slaters are over. The Moons never were.”

Saves me writing anything really. I agree with all of that. Kat was a great character in her day, but there's no way to make her interesting now.
Alfie was never more than an irritating, comic distraction. Give him a game show or something.
Big Mo is a fairly meaningless member of the cast, another comic distraction.
I do think Stacey's character could be revived, but not if that means all the other baggage staying on.
Sonicmfc
06-07-2014
Everyone in the family is fine except Alfie who drags down the whole family massively. He destroys Kat's character and ruins her potential I hate the fact he's still around...
DarthFader
06-07-2014
Alfie out, Kat to stay, Kat to have a car that can talk and go on adventures. We can have Kitt-Kat then. *badoomtish*

Thank you, here all week
vald
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by RetroMusicFan:
“This!

I often wonder myself what would happen to Kat if something happened to Alfie, he is her anchor, her fundament, her sanctuary, who would she tell her problems to? Who would she go to to feel safe?

Alfie knows practically everything about her warts and all and he still loves her who else would be like that? Who else would understand?

They were best mates before they got together and they still are!

And Kat's pregnant with twins and in her forties, she and ths kids need stability, they need a DAD and that's Alfie, he's a great dad, look at him with Tommy who isn't even his and that time he and Luke larked about with Tommy and Lily when they were painting, those kids loved Alfie!

I know he isn't a favourite on here because of his buffoonery and he was a bit of a twit last week but people forget he has a good side too!”

Exactly. Alfie is the love of Kat's life, she would never be happy without him. Her three children would be without a dad and her life would be a struggle.
Kim_x
06-07-2014
There's no doubt that their return has pissed all over their relationship, but I think that happened because Kirkwood didn't really care about EastEnders, or have any kind of imagination. It's damage limitation for them now. If they left after say two years of raising the twins as a solid couple, they'd be remembered much more fondly than if they drove off into the sunset tomorrow. I personally enjoy most of their scenes now, I just wish there was an erase button for 2010-12. What a waste. So no, I don't think they should go.

Logically, the kids were the only thing missing from their lives when they left in 2005, so I'd have brought them back as a solid couple struggling to conceive. There isn't an NHS in America or Spain as far as I'm aware. They could have raised awareness of infertility and gone for an IVF storyline. If they wanted to have Alfie running scams, it should have been to pay for treatment. People probably wouldn't have minded them breaking the law so much if they had to pay for private treatment having been refused funding because Kat already had Zoe, the viewers knowing what really happened there. Instead of Harry being just a card she played, it could have been brought up for genuine sympathy, with Kat resenting Harry for robbing her of not only her innocence, but her chance to have a family. We could have seen them reacting negatively to stories of how easily Jack Branning has children and struggling to be happy for Michael and Janine because of their situation. It could still have ended where we are now with a surprise conception, but without all the cheating, Alfie using Roxy etc.

Myself and Retro have stated previously that Alfie should be given an illness in the future, so as to give them something serious to get their teeth into. It would be the same kind of thing as Kat without Alfie if there was a real risk of him not making it, but without destroying the family and leaving Kat a mess and three kids without a dad.
RetroMusicFan
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Kim_x:
“There's no doubt that their return has pissed all over their relationship, but I think that happened because Kirkwood didn't really care about EastEnders, or have any kind of imagination. It's damage limitation for them now. If they left after say two years of raising the twins as a solid couple, they'd be remembered much more fondly than if they drove off into the sunset tomorrow. I personally enjoy most of their scenes now, I just wish there was an erase button for 2010-12. What a waste. So no, I don't think they should go.

Logically, the kids were the only thing missing from their lives when they left in 2005, so I'd have brought them back as a solid couple struggling to conceive. There isn't an NHS in America or Spain as far as I'm aware. They could have raised awareness of infertility and gone for an IVF storyline. If they wanted to have Alfie running scams, it should have been to pay for treatment. People probably wouldn't have minded them breaking the law so much if they had to pay for private treatment having been refused funding because Kat already had Zoe, the viewers knowing what really happened there. Instead of Harry being just a card she played, it could have been brought up for genuine sympathy, with Kat resenting Harry for robbing her of not only her innocence, but her chance to have a family. We could have seen them reacting negatively to stories of how easily Jack Branning has children and struggling to be happy for Michael and Janine because of their situation. It could still have ended where we are now with a surprise conception, but without all the cheating, Alfie using Roxy etc.

Myself and Retro have stated previously that Alfie should be given an illness in the future, so as to give them something serious to get their teeth into. It would be the same kind of thing as Kat without Alfie if there was a real risk of him not making it, but without destroying the family and leaving Kat a mess and three kids without a dad.”

This!

Kat and Alfie should have come back still together and Tommy should have been Alfie's but I suppose it was a way of introducing Michael.

Your idea of an IVF storyline is a good one, they could have ended up having quads or something!

And yes to an illness for Alfie, it would break my heart to see him and Kat suffer but it would raise awareness and give both Shane and Jessie some nice meaty drama and I love Shane doing his drama bit!

Maybe an MS storyline would be good as I don't know if enough is known about it and featuring it in EE would raise awareness!
abbottab
06-07-2014
I think they are all past their sell by. But again, the characters are only as good as their storylines.
0...0
06-07-2014
Oh I dunno. Kat is one of the best characters EE ever had and the focal point of one of its best stories but I dont enjoy watching her the way I used to. In her first stint around 2001 she lit up the screen every time she was on it.

I think she has the same problem as Sharon. Brought back by a clueless EP, suffers horrible writing and then when a competent EP comes along his priorities lie elsewhere.
abbottab
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“Oh I dunno. Kat is one of the best characters EE ever had and the focal point of one of its best stories but I dont enjoy watching her the way I used to. In her first stint around 2001 she lit up the screen every time she was on it.

I think she has the same problem as Sharon. Brought back by a clueless EP, suffers horrible writing and then when a competent EP comes along his priorities lie elsewhere.”

Don't get me wrong I like Kat also. When introduced she was fresh and cheeky and was young enough to get away with it. The Derek Branning story was a BIG BIG mistake for this character. Yes, she has strayed before, but I would even thought Kat would learn from her mistakes in the past. The story portrayed her as a cheap aging slapper that is only good for a quicky up the allyway. She is so much MORE than that!
0...0
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by abbottab:
“Don't get me wrong I like Kat also. When introduced she was fresh and cheeky and was young enough to get away with it. The Derek Branning story was a BIG BIG mistake for this character. Yes, she has strayed before, but I would even thought Kat would learn from her mistakes in the past. The story portrayed her as a cheap aging slapper that is only good for a quicky up the allyway. She is so much MORE than that!”

I agree. I think Jessie lost interest in the character then a d it translated on screen.
Kim_x
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by 0...0:
“I agree. I think Jessie lost interest in the character then a d it translated on screen.”

Definitely. I can't say I blame her. The actors know their characters a lot better than the EP's or writers these days. After everything it took to win Alfie back in 2005 I don't think she'd have cheated again, and definitely not after Alfie had forgiven her for Michael and taken Tommy on as his own. The affair storyline was just like the Alfie and Roxy pairing in that none of the actors involved believed in it.

They should listen to the actors a bit more when it comes to the direction of the characters, as DTC has done with Masood; dark Masood was Nitin's idea I believe.
Clackers
06-07-2014
I think Roxy and all the Pakistani family apart from Tamwar should leave.

Get rid of all the Club 18-30 extras, like Fatboy, Dexter, Tiff... what are they even there for?

And although I sympathise with what she's going through with the cancer, I hate Carol Jackson. Nobody would miss her - or that idiot Bianca.

EDITED: changed nationality
Scrabbler
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Clackers:
“I think Roxy and all the Indian family apart from Tamwar should leave.

Get rid of all the Club 18-30 extras, like Fatboy, Dexter, Tiff... what are they even there for?

And although I sympathise with what she's going through with the cancer, I hate Carol Jackson. Nobody would miss her - or that idiot Bianca.”

What Indian family would that be? The Masoods are from Pakistan
jimbo23
06-07-2014
i voted keep them as i love kat and mo etc, but really should have voted get rid coz alfie should have gone years ago, makes no sense as a character anymore, this storyline with roxy and aleks hes been shoe horned into, just dire
Thomas_Neale
06-07-2014
Only Alfie. I like Kat and Mo
0...0
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Kim_x:
“Definitely. I can't say I blame her. The actors know their characters a lot better than the EP's or writers these days. After everything it took to win Alfie back in 2005 I don't think she'd have cheated again, and definitely not after Alfie had forgiven her for Michael and taken Tommy on as his own. The affair storyline was just like the Alfie and Roxy pairing in that none of the actors involved believed in it.

They should listen to the actors a bit more when it comes to the direction of the characters, as DTC has done with Masood; dark Masood was Nitin's idea I believe.”

Me neither. When you've had well crafted blockbuster stories and then end up with rubbish it must be pretty galling. I do wish some of the better writers would return.
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