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Semi Final | Argentina v Holland | 9 July | ITV 9pm KO
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Peter Venkman
06-07-2014
I think the last time these two teams met in the World Cup was in 1998. A quarter final which saw that stunning Bergkamp goal.

And of course this was the 1978 World Cup Final, which Argentina won.

Procure a grain of excitement from the match!
alanrollins
06-07-2014
A grain?
Xela M
06-07-2014
Holland will win with one goal difference. Argentina have a great defence, but they won't have 11 men in their own half like Costa Rica did, so I think there will be more opportunity for the Dutch to score.
Thomas007
06-07-2014
Xela M's right I think this match may suit Holland more than some of their recent encounters against Mexico and Costa Rica who put the onus on the Dutch to attack.

If Argentina come on to Holland repeatedly with Messi, Higiuan, Lavezzi etc I can see a lot of Dutch counters. If they stop Messi and play some of the counter attacking football we saw earlier in the tournament, I think they have a big chance of going through.
Peter Venkman
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Thomas007:
“Xela M's right I think this match may suit Holland more than some of their recent encounters against Mexico and Costa Rica who put the onus on the Dutch to attack.

If Argentina come on to Holland repeatedly with Messi, Higiuan, Lavezzi etc I can see a lot of Dutch counters. If they stop Messi and play some of the counter attacking football we saw earlier in the tournament, I think they have a big chance of going through.”

I don't think you understand. Argentina's name is engraved on that trophy.

I cannot envisage any other team lifting that trophy on Sunday than Argentina.

Sorry you don't feel the same way Thomas
FanFromHolland
06-07-2014
I think this one will be very tense

The Dutch can play their tactic that worked on Spain, as Argentina will attack too.
However if the Dutch let Messi slip for one second, we're done. We can't have a 0-1 behind as that's when Argentina's defense will go on lock (see Belgium) and the chance to tie it up slim down drastically
RotMojo
06-07-2014
If either of them actually show up this time, it might be a good game.
Thomas007
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Peter Venkman:
“I don't think you understand. Argentina's name is engraved on that trophy.

I cannot envisage any other team lifting that trophy on Sunday than Argentina.

Sorry you don't feel the same way Thomas”



I still think Argentina will win, I'm just trying to be optimistic for the Dutch.
basdfg
06-07-2014
I wonder what the likelihood of the game being called of, held in a closed stadium or postponed in the event of a Brazilian exit the previous night. Must be higher at least than if it was Belgium vs the Netherlands for example. An argentine game would bring out more rioters and protestors I think judging by how fierce the rivalry is( I didn't realise there were rivalries until the start of this world cup.
Jamesp84
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by basdfg:
“I wonder what the likelihood of the game being called of, held in a closed stadium or postponed in the event of a Brazilian exit the previous night. Must be higher at least than if it was Belgium vs the Netherlands for example. An argentine game would bring out more rioters and protestors I think judging by how fierce the rivalry is( I didn't realise there were rivalries until the start of this world cup.”

You didn't realise there was a rivalry between Argentina and Brazil?
The Snowman
06-07-2014
I'm calling Argentina to win this. They'll have the legs on Holland who must be wrecked after a gruelling two hour affair in Salvadaor. Also Holland imo have already peaked at this tournament while the Argies are just hitting form.
Jim De Ville
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by basdfg:
“I wonder what the likelihood of the game being called of, held in a closed stadium or postponed in the event of a Brazilian exit the previous night. Must be higher at least than if it was Belgium vs the Netherlands for example. An argentine game would bring out more rioters and protestors I think judging by how fierce the rivalry is( I didn't realise there were rivalries until the start of this world cup.”

What?
whedon247
07-07-2014
argentina(messi,lavezzi) 2- 1 holland(rvp)
rhynoGB
07-07-2014
Both teams love to attack, which should be good to watch for the neutral. With Robben, Van Persie & Messi playing, It should be an attacking game.

0-0 then

I can see both teams scoring goals, so I think a 3-2 to Argentina.
Mark F
07-07-2014
Argentina 1-0 seems to be the vogue score ATM..
odz1
08-07-2014
As long as Robben doesn't dive all game Argies have a chance
Wouter
08-07-2014
De Jong might be fit to play and will keep a close eye on Messi if he is.
howard h
08-07-2014
Originally Posted by odz1:
“As long as Robben doesn't dive all game Argies have a chance”

After Maradonna's performance a few years ago, I bet there are one or two Englishmen who won't mind if Robben dives around a bit?
Xela M
08-07-2014
This will be the toughest game yet for the Dutch because Argentina are very strong despite their low key success for far. They completely stifled Belgium's game in the quarter final and Messi has played exceptionally well even if he didn't score.

I think both teams are stronger than Germany or Brazil, so whoever wins this semi-final will win the title. This might just be the year Holland win their first World Cup.
NiteOwl12
09-07-2014
I am rooting for a Dutch victory, but this will be have to be hard earned, Argentina are no push overs. I think Germany's crushing defeat of Brazil last night might give Holland the extra edge they will need. The prospect of defeating an over-confident Germany in the final of a world cup is one to which no Dutch side could fail to respond. Argentina beware! Holland to win 3-2 in extra time.
ihatemarmite
09-07-2014
just hoping that a dive doesn't settle the game.
I'd like Argentina to win, as want Messi to do well in a World Cup. For me, the key is someone like Lavezzi, who started well, but has faded. Messi will be so tightly marked and with di Maria out and Aguero dodgy, not sure who will be able to take advantage of the space created for other Argentina players. Lavezzi could. Great shame about di Maria.
RvP may be injured which actually may not be such a bad thing as he's been average in the last 2 games. Huntelaar then?
don't think there's much in it. A key moment, luck or ref's decision could settle it.
Goodwin
09-07-2014
Hard one to call this. Argentina are defensively sound. Just three conceded. They don't score many though. The Dutch are a solid outfit. A lot depends on Robben and will he be crowded out by the Argies? Likewise with Messi. Would be a big mistake playing van Persie if he's not fully fit only to haul him off after 20 minutes. Expecting a dour game with a couple of goals at best in the 90 minutes but can see it going to 0-0 then E/T.
Scarlett Berry
09-07-2014
Hope Argentina win.
howard h
09-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Hope Argentina win.”

Hope Holland win.

julie2009
09-07-2014
Originally Posted by Goodwin:
“Hard one to call this. Argentina are defensively sound. Just three conceded. They don't score many though. The Dutch are a solid outfit. A lot depends on Robben and will he be crowded out by the Argies? Likewise with Messi. Would be a big mistake playing van Persie if he's not fully fit only to haul him off after 20 minutes. Expecting a dour game with a couple of goals at best in the 90 minutes but can see it going to 0-0 then E/T.”

I can see this game going to penalties but then again the Dutch might surprise us this year and let's hope whoever is up against Germany beats them
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