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Helen's popularity growing?
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cobis
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Yes absolutely. Helen can admit when she is in the wrong. Ashleigh will never do that. She will continue to plot and manipulate behind people backs.”

Admitting you are wrong means nothing if you then go on to repeat the same wrongs! I presume you have watched the clip where she was threatening to give Christopher food she had wiped on her fanny? and all because she was one of three housemates not included in one treat, and please don't tell me she was 'joking' even saying such a disgusting thing to other people shows what kind of person she is, who says such vile things to people she has known for a few weeks? she must be a total nightmare to have in your community,
MACTOWIN
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Yes absolutely. Helen can admit when she is in the wrong. Ashleigh will never do that. She will continue to plot and manipulate behind people backs.”

Wow just wow that is all I can say.
tombigbee
06-07-2014
How can Ashleigh be criticized for mingling with Helen etc. when Helen did the most obvious u-turn on Jale after being warned for bullying her?? If anything they're both doing what they perceive they need to do to gain more votes, but this is Big Brother after all.
Cheddarcakes
06-07-2014
The power of editing and keeping your gob shut. It's clear the producers didn't expect the pass to the final to end up with the most despised HM of the series if not BB history so now they are rehabilitating her and next step is the removal of the last of Helen's opponents.

Toya out , Matthew out, Ashleigh out then it's Helen's gang all the way to the final
cobis
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“She went about it in a very sly and two faced way and you know that. What she said to Helen's face about Ash being able to survive against Marlon and others was a total lie. She was pretty much telling Helen the opposite of her true feelings. She fully expected Ash to go and fortunately her cocksure behaviour drove people to support Ash and evict her friend Matthew.

She has also been very sly and two faced behind Kimberley and Jale's backs.”

Helen has said to people's faces that she is not judgmental and never holds a grudge, we all know different!
Tall Paul
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by craton:
“Only if they make it to the final.”

It'll make a mockery of the show if Helen clinches it, there are much more deserving savoury hms than her to win, she should really be removed or pass revoked, but the producers are too lazy to do so as they think her departure will turn off fans - wrong on all accounts.
BlueStreak
06-07-2014
Helen acted like a petulant child and threw her toys out of the pram for not going to the Christmas Dinner.

That's two parties now the others have had without her and seemingly enjoyed.

Does it feel as if you are swimming against the tide OP LOL!

atko
06-07-2014
[quote=SAFC_Derry;73563527]
Originally Posted by atko:
“I don't always agree with the way she handles things & I think more people would realize her opinion is often right if she went about it in a more civil way but I am warming to her! She isn't a back stabber like all the other girls, she will tell you to your face as we have seen. She is right in that she is in the house with the biggest bunch of a**holes ever considered for BB! I think Helen would have been an excellent hm in other years, this year I think she's wasted![/QUOTE]

Ahh, I don't know if this Helen love in should be pitied or laughed at! Her opinion is worthless as she is full of hypocrisy and has no self-awareness. As for her not back stabbing? The girl invented it in there and you may think she is wasted but I think she is more of a waster.”

Your opinion & your entitled to it but for all those jumping on this thread to have yet another pop at Helen, just remember DS represents less than 1% of the viewers! Too many on here are horrified when people go that this forum has as safe as houses or bookies reflect odds that baffle this forum! DS does not reflect the viewers opinions that much!
Tall Paul
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Cheddarcakes:
“The power of editing and keeping your gob shut. It's clear the producers didn't expect the pass to the final to end up with the most despised HM of the series if not BB history so now they are rehabilitating her and next step is the removal of the last of Helen's opponents.

Toya out , Matthew out, Ashleigh out then it's Helen's gang all the way to the final”

For aussie ladette to lady Jessica Shaw-walford in her series and Kristyn ghort of her series were production team faves and teachers faves, but they didn't win so we vote for people who are more the genuine article than that.
Veri
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“There seems to be a growing trend on the forum with members speaking more favourably towards Helen. That has now been reflected in the odds. There's been a huge swing in the last few days. Just three days ago Helen was a 66/1 rank outsider. Now she's as low as 28/1 with some bookies. She's currently ahead of Kimberley, Ash, Marlon and Steven. She's not too far off Danielle either.

http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-brother/winner

http://www.oddschecker.com/tv/big-br...ry/helen/today

Very encouraging and I hope this trend continues. Helen is a good person and I hope people continue to see that. We know she's not perfect and she does make mistakes. She has never claimed to be infallible but if she feels she was in the wrong then she will apologise and alter her ways in future. A classic example would be her flourishing friendship with Jale.”

LOL. By the SkyBet odds Tamara's as popular as Kim or Ash -- or, rather, has a much chance of winning.

All three of them and Steven are 50/1.
YesNoMan
06-07-2014
The worst thing is to have a closed mind. A closed mind is the very worst sort of mind. It's a small mind. In fact it's arguable whether a closed mind can even be called a mind at all. A closed mind says "I shall never forgive or forget, there shall be no redemption." So my mind stays open. I am prepared to have my mind changed about Helen, or about anything at all. However I am still waiting to have it changed.
Rufus Knights
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by cobis:
“Helen has said to people's faces that she is not judgmental and never holds a grudge!”

Helen and Jale's friendship is evidence of this. They've put their differences aside and are now very close friends.
Tall Paul
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Helen acted like a petulant child and threw her toys out of the pram for not going to the Christmas Dinner.

That's two parties now the others have had without her and seemingly enjoyed.

Does it feel as if you are swimming against the tide OP LOL!

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This. ^
mjgirl
06-07-2014
What amazes me is people are willing to dismiss all of what Helen done/does but still continue to make digs on Toya even when she did 1/4 of the things Helen did. Society is a mess. Sending people like Matthew and Ashleigh to the graves. Too many people use the word telling it like it is to justify appalling behaviour you don't have to be mean, or shout to get your point across or go into peoples faces. Glad im not easily manipulated by edits
Rufus Knights
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“Helen acted like a petulant child and threw her toys out of the pram for not going to the Christmas Dinner.

That's two parties now the others have had without her and seemingly enjoyed.

Does it feel as if you are swimming against the tide OP LOL!

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Helen going from 66/1 to 28/1 shows the tide is turning.
tombigbee
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Tall Paul:
“It'll make a mockery of the show if Helen clinches it, there are much more deserving savoury hms than her to win, she should really be removed or pass revoked, but the producers are too lazy to do so as they think her departure will turn off fans - wrong on all accounts. ”

If Helen wins then I'll feel like never watching BB again to be honest.
Veri
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by YesNoMan:
“The worst thing is to have a closed mind. A closed mind is the very worst sort of mind. It's a small mind. In fact it's arguable whether a closed mind can even be called a mind at all. A closed mind says "I shall never forgive or forget, there shall be no redemption." So my mind stays open. I am prepared to have my mind changed about Helen, or about anything at all. However I am still waiting to have it changed.”

There's having an open mind; and there's having a memory that leaks like a sieve.
Rufus Knights
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by mjgirl:
“What amazes me is people are willing to dismiss all of what Helen done/does but still continue to make digs on Toya even when she did 1/4 of the things Helen did. Society is a mess. Sending people like Matthew and Ashleigh to the graves. Too many people use the word telling it like it is to justify appalling behaviour you don't have to be mean, or shout to get your point across or go into peoples faces. Glad im not easily manipulated by edits”

Toya was far worse. She and Pauline had a calculated campaign to ostracise both Jale and Christopher.
BlueStreak
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Helen going from 66/1 to 28/1 shows the tide is turning.”

The odds weren't correct this week re. Ash and Matthew were they?

According to the odds Ash was for the chop, so..............

Digital Sid
06-07-2014
I was Team Helen before it was cool .
Veri
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by mjgirl:
“What amazes me is people are willing to dismiss all of what Helen done/does but still continue to make digs on Toya even when she did 1/4 of the things Helen did. Society is a mess. Sending people like Matthew and Ashleigh to the graves. Too many people use the word telling it like it is to justify appalling behaviour you don't have to be mean, or shout to get your point across or go into peoples faces. Glad im not easily manipulated by edits”

Excellent point.

But of course, Toya's wrongs are remembered because they can be used against Ashleigh.

Helen's are forgotten because they could be used in the same way against Kim and Jale.

The odd thing in the odds is that Jale is still doing so well. What can the punters be thinking?
Veri
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I was Team Helen before it was cool .”

I've always thought she could be this year's Gina.
Rufus Knights
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by BlueStreak:
“The odds weren't correct this week re. Ash and Matthew were they?

According to the odds Ash was for the chop, so..............

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Which gives us hope that Helen might have an outside chance of winning. If Ash can go from a 1/20 fav to go and actually survive then that shows just how things can swing.
Rufus Knights
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I was Team Helen before it was cool .”

Welcome aboard.
BlueStreak
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Which gives us hope that Helen might have an outside chance of winning. If Ash can go from a 1/20 fav to go and actually survive then that shows just how things can swing.”

If that foul mouthed excuse for a female actually won, then I'd completely give up.

Not sure the word 'us' should be used. More in your case 'me' lol.

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