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AOTB
06-07-2014
Helen will never been 'forgiven' by some on here. Nothing she says or does will change this, and even if another HM does the same or worse between now and the end of the series, she will be still be the most vilified. Whatever action she takes it will be spun into a negative by the usual suspects.

Her 'crimes' have been magnified to quite ridiculous levels, even being compared to Hitler at one point (and I don't even think it was some kind of parody Godwin jokey post either), and I actually don't recall seeing more vitriolic and offensive stuff posted about any one HM on here, and I most definitely include Linda Nolan in this.

Genuinely outrageous, and disturbingly bitter stuff.

It is what it is.
BlueStreak
06-07-2014
She doesn't need any forgiveness from me. She's the type of person I would avoid like the plague. She has far less redeeming qualities than she has redeeming ones imo.

YesNoMan
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“I was Team Helen before it was cool .”

Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Welcome aboard. ”

You can't welcome Digital Sid aboard, Digital Sid is saying (s)he was already aboard.
Vadmun
06-07-2014
For the love of God, the OP is clutching at straws, the top six are the ones to watch. All the others are canon fodder, however, Helen the Whore of Boltanlon, with her pass has more chance than those who don't have a pass and who have no chance of winning. Hence why her odds are higher. Take away the pass and her odds will go lower than that vile whore's mouth on a punter in a Bolton back alley.
Veri
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Helen will never been 'forgiven' by some on here. Nothing she says or does will change this, and even if another HM does the same or worse between now and the end of the series, she will be the most vilified.

Her crimes have been magnified to quite ridiculous levels, even being compared to Hitler at one point (and I don;t even think it was some kind of parody G|odwin jokey post either).

It is what it is.”

Forgiving her and forgetting that she's been a show-ruining nightmare are two very different things.

Her "crimes" are much more minimised than maximised these days. And as mjgirl pointed out above, the 'forgive and forget' line is being used quite selectively, for instance for Helen but not for Toya.
SAFC_Derry
06-07-2014
[quote=atko;73563639]
Originally Posted by SAFC_Derry:
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Your opinion & your entitled to it but for all those jumping on this thread to have yet another pop at Helen, just remember DS represents less than 1% of the viewers! Too many on here are horrified when people go that this forum has as safe as houses or bookies reflect odds that baffle this forum! DS does not reflect the viewers opinions that much!”

You've quoted this 1% before and as for the comment about people coming on here to have a pop? It's a forum for debate! And all I can see are people picking holes in you and your fellow Helen supporter’s arguments. Try as hard as you want to justify the unjustifiable it just won't wash with right thinking people.
petewalsh_walsh
06-07-2014
Not changed my feelings about her. Don't like her and won't like her.
SAFC_Derry
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by YesNoMan:
“The worst thing is to have a closed mind. A closed mind is the very worst sort of mind. It's a small mind. In fact it's arguable whether a closed mind can even be called a mind at all. A closed mind says "I shall never forgive or forget, there shall be no redemption." So my mind stays open. I am prepared to have my mind changed about Helen, or about anything at all. However I am still waiting to have it changed.”

Well done you've just summed up Helen perfectly.
Penelope_Pitst1
06-07-2014
Op is Helen's cousin right?

Helen owes you a drink for canvasing in here on her behalf. Your cousin is a bully. She is aggressive and threatening. She dominates via intimidation and overbearing. Her idea of communication in conflict is to shout and insult and swear. She is only still in the house due to being given a free pass otherwise she would almost certainly be long gone. In other words its like being in a race where everyone has to run except Helen who is planted a yard from the finish line. It was more than a stroke of luck for Helen and something almost all viewers have not been happy about. Either way i think when you consider the world cup and her connection to wayne Rooney, the fact that she agreed to going in as a civilian as opposed to a celeb its not a stretch to imagine a deal was struck with BB to ensure Helen stayed in giving Helen the opportunity to 'turn the public opinion of her around' whilst generating publicity for BB. Shame for BB that England bombed out the world cup so soon. The free pass to my mind sealed the deal....so there is the whiff of deceit and cheating. I think its possible Pauline was paid off to choose Helen. Many housemates have reported being scared of her temper and wish she wasn't there. She has had numerous warnings due to her anti social behaviour yet has not been removed from the house. The papers have reported that some of her worst and vilest rants and attacks have not been shown due to how offensive they have been. Even when she is being her version of 'nice' she keeps meticulous score ready to reel out these incidences should she not get her own way, instead beating the person she has been vaguely civilised towards over the head with them as if normal social behaviour entitles her to recieve some special reward. Fair play to you for championing her, someone has to and only family could. All the same she is distinctly unlikeable and will discover this when she leaves the house. Idon't see many social invites coming her way. Do you? The only win for her is to leave the house and watch the show back to see how she appears to others and awareness dawns. Losing and understanding why is likely to be the wake up call she needs......and she does need one. If she has the level of honesty with herself that she uses to justify the insults she hurls at others on a regular basis she might actually pull a more personal and profound win out of the bag. One that has more substance than winning BB and might actually have long lasting benefts for her. As it stands Helen's problems will not be solved by a win on BB, which is a ship fast sinking anyway.
BlueStreak
06-07-2014
Absolutely well said Penelope.

atko
06-07-2014
[quote=SAFC_Derry;73564058]
Originally Posted by atko:
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You've quoted this 1% before and as for the comment about people coming on here to have a pop? It's a forum for debate! And all I can see are people picking holes in you and your fellow Helen supporter’s arguments. Try as hard as you want to justify the unjustifiable it just won't wash with right thinking people.”

Well maybe so but that's a fact!

The OP started this post about Helen's odds which people like you have jumped on it to post the same old boring comments that you have on the several hundred other threads about Helen so that isn't debating anything relating to the OP's post! I guess we will see who is the right thinking on final night!
smokeyjoeUK
06-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penelope_Pitst1:
“Op is Helen's cousin right?

Helen owes you a drink for canvasing in here on her behalf. Your cousin is a bully. She is aggressive and threatening. She dominates via intimidation and overbearing. Her idea of communication in conflict is to shout and insult and swear. She is only still in the house due to being given a free pass otherwise she would almost certainly be long gone. In other words its like being in a race where everyone has to run except Helen who is planted a yard from the finish line. It was more than a stroke of luck for Helen and something almost all viewers have not been happy about. Either way i think when you consider the world cup and her connection to wayne Rooney, the fact that she agreed to going in as a civilian as opposed to a celeb its not a stretch to imagine a deal was struck with BB to ensure Helen stayed in giving Helen the opportunity to 'turn the public opinion of her around' whilst generating publicity for BB. Shame for BB that England bombed out the world cup so soon. The free pass to my mind sealed the deal....so there is the whiff of deceit and cheating. I think its possible Pauline was paid off to choose Helen. Many housemates have reported being scared of her temper and wish she wasn't there. She has had numerous warnings due to her anti social behaviour yet has not been removed from the house. The papers have reported that some of her worst and vilest rants and attacks have not been shown due to how offensive they have been. Even when she is being her version of 'nice' she keeps meticulous score ready to reel out these incidences should she not get her own way, instead beating the person she has been vaguely civilised towards over the head with them as if normal social behaviour entitles her to recieve some special reward. Fair play to you for championing her, someone has to and only family could. All the same she is distinctly unlikeable and will discover this when she leaves the house. Idon't see many social invites coming her way. Do you? The only win for her is to leave the house and watch the show back to see how she appears to others and awareness dawns. Losing and understanding why is likely to be the wake up call she needs......and she does need one. If she has the level of honesty with herself that she uses to justify the insults she hurls at others on a regular basis she might actually pull a more personal and profound win out of the bag. One that has more substance than winning BB and might actually have long lasting benefts for her. As it stands Helen's problems will not be solved by a win on BB, which is a ship fast sinking anyway.”

Good post

Helen is disgusting
Digital Sid
07-07-2014
Even Nastleigh's joined Team Helen.
cobis
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Agreed. Her 'crimes' are more exaggerated by the day. The sheer venom and bitterness shown on here at times is totally over the top. Even on this thread we have someone claiming Helen RUINS LIVES, post 35. ”

You appear to be quoting my post here, at least have the decency to do so properly I posted Helen is the sort of person who ruins lives

Bullies do ruin lives, in my opinion Helen is a bully, she didn't become one solely for the show I presume?
craton
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penelope_Pitst1:
“Op is Helen's cousin right?

Helen owes you a drink for canvasing in here on her behalf. Your cousin is a bully. She is aggressive and threatening. She dominates via intimidation and overbearing. Her idea of communication in conflict is to shout and insult and swear. She is only still in the house due to being given a free pass otherwise she would almost certainly be long gone. In other words its like being in a race where everyone has to run except Helen who is planted a yard from the finish line. It was more than a stroke of luck for Helen and something almost all viewers have not been happy about. Either way i think when you consider the world cup and her connection to wayne Rooney, the fact that she agreed to going in as a civilian as opposed to a celeb its not a stretch to imagine a deal was struck with BB to ensure Helen stayed in giving Helen the opportunity to 'turn the public opinion of her around' whilst generating publicity for BB. Shame for BB that England bombed out the world cup so soon. The free pass to my mind sealed the deal....so there is the whiff of deceit and cheating. I think its possible Pauline was paid off to choose Helen. Many housemates have reported being scared of her temper and wish she wasn't there. She has had numerous warnings due to her anti social behaviour yet has not been removed from the house. The papers have reported that some of her worst and vilest rants and attacks have not been shown due to how offensive they have been. Even when she is being her version of 'nice' she keeps meticulous score ready to reel out these incidences should she not get her own way, instead beating the person she has been vaguely civilised towards over the head with them as if normal social behaviour entitles her to recieve some special reward. Fair play to you for championing her, someone has to and only family could. All the same she is distinctly unlikeable and will discover this when she leaves the house. Idon't see many social invites coming her way. Do you? The only win for her is to leave the house and watch the show back to see how she appears to others and awareness dawns. Losing and understanding why is likely to be the wake up call she needs......and she does need one. If she has the level of honesty with herself that she uses to justify the insults she hurls at others on a regular basis she might actually pull a more personal and profound win out of the bag. One that has more substance than winning BB and might actually have long lasting benefts for her. As it stands Helen's problems will not be solved by a win on BB, which is a ship fast sinking anyway.”

Well said!
smokeyjoeUK
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Digital Sid:
“Even Nastleigh's joined Team Helen.”

Nastleigh? Jeez.. I'm embarrassed for you
AOTB
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Agreed. Her 'crimes' are more exaggerated by the day. The sheer venom and bitterness shown on here at times is totally over the top. Even on this thread we have someone claiming Helen RUINS LIVES, post 35. ”

That's nothing.

I've seen people totally write her off as a human being, suggest her son is being neglected and should be taken off her and numerous posters have posted and then pointed and laughed at pictures of her battered face after she was beaten and had her nose broken. Classy.

The above isn't even the worst of it and yet some people make the claim that the likes of Ashleigh have had worse. Unless I have seen people talking about her gaping, ruined sti ridden vaginas or how she would deserve anything that happens to her including getting beaten up and worse, I beg to differ.

I don't see how anyone can look at this forum objectively and say that anyone has had it as bad as her or even close. I really don't. I also don't know how anyone can defend some of the stuff that you seen on here time after time- slut, slag, ugly crack whore etc. but defend it in droves they do.

There's 'hating on' people on the internet but some times this can be taken to a whole different kind of level.

No doubt this post will be as popular as ever and you'll see the usual suspects actually try and defend the above because Helen 'deserves it' or some other such nonsense.
RingoJ739K
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Penelope_Pitst1:
“Op is Helen's cousin right?

Helen owes you a drink for canvasing in here on her behalf. Your cousin is a bully. She is aggressive and threatening. She dominates via intimidation and overbearing. Her idea of communication in conflict is to shout and insult and swear. She is only still in the house due to being given a free pass otherwise she would almost certainly be long gone. In other words its like being in a race where everyone has to run except Helen who is planted a yard from the finish line. It was more than a stroke of luck for Helen and something almost all viewers have not been happy about. Either way i think when you consider the world cup and her connection to wayne Rooney, the fact that she agreed to going in as a civilian as opposed to a celeb its not a stretch to imagine a deal was struck with BB to ensure Helen stayed in giving Helen the opportunity to 'turn the public opinion of her around' whilst generating publicity for BB. Shame for BB that England bombed out the world cup so soon. The free pass to my mind sealed the deal....so there is the whiff of deceit and cheating. I think its possible Pauline was paid off to choose Helen. Many housemates have reported being scared of her temper and wish she wasn't there. She has had numerous warnings due to her anti social behaviour yet has not been removed from the house. The papers have reported that some of her worst and vilest rants and attacks have not been shown due to how offensive they have been. Even when she is being her version of 'nice' she keeps meticulous score ready to reel out these incidences should she not get her own way, instead beating the person she has been vaguely civilised towards over the head with them as if normal social behaviour entitles her to recieve some special reward. Fair play to you for championing her, someone has to and only family could. All the same she is distinctly unlikeable and will discover this when she leaves the house. Idon't see many social invites coming her way. Do you? The only win for her is to leave the house and watch the show back to see how she appears to others and awareness dawns. Losing and understanding why is likely to be the wake up call she needs......and she does need one. If she has the level of honesty with herself that she uses to justify the insults she hurls at others on a regular basis she might actually pull a more personal and profound win out of the bag. One that has more substance than winning BB and might actually have long lasting benefts for her. As it stands Helen's problems will not be solved by a win on BB, which is a ship fast sinking anyway.”

Great post!

Very well said!
Rufus Knights
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“That's nothing.

I've seen people totally write her off as a human being, suggest her son is being neglected and should be taken off her and numerous posters have posted and then pointed and laughed at pictures of her battered face after she was beaten and had her nose broken. Classy.

The above isn't even the worst of it and yet some people make the claim that the likes of Ashleigh have had worse. Unless I have seen people talking about her gaping, ruined sti ridden vaginas or how she would deserve anything that happens to her including getting beaten up and worse, I beg to differ.

I don't see how anyone can look at this forum objectively and say that anyone has had it as bad as her or even close. I really don't. I also don't know how anyone can defend some of the stuff that you seen on here time after time- slut, slag, ugly crack whore etc. but defend it in droves they do.

There's 'hating on' people on the internet but some times this can be taken to a whole different kind of level.”

Finally some common sense. Thank you.

I try to ignore all the really personal stuff but it is difficult. It's a shame people can be so full of hate and rage.
cobis
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Finally some common sense. Thank you.

I try to ignore all the really personal stuff but it is difficult. It's a shame people can be so full of hate and rage.”

Helen is the one full of hate and rage, I mean seriously was being left out of one party really such a big deal, did it deserve the vitriol she directed at Christopher, that is not normal behaviour really is it
SAFC_Derry
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by atko:
“Well maybe so but that's a fact!

The OP started this post about Helen's odds which people like you have jumped on it to post the same old boring comments that you have on the several hundred other threads about Helen so that isn't debating anything relating to the OP's post! I guess we will see who is the right thinking on final night!”

You are showing some of the hypocrisy traits of Helen as you yourself have been pretty vocal in your condemnation of Ashleigh. As for not debating the stats produced by the OP REALLY! Read the rest of the post, it was an excuse to express support for her which is their right as it is for anyone who wants to counter their ridiculous arguments without the usual "well everyone does it".
KDDS07
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“That's nothing.

I've seen people totally write her off as a human being, suggest her son is being neglected and should be taken off her and numerous posters have posted and then pointed and laughed at pictures of her battered face after she was beaten and had her nose broken. Classy.

The above isn't even the worst of it and yet some people make the claim that the likes of Ashleigh have had worse. Unless I have seen people talking about her gaping, ruined sti ridden vaginas or how she would deserve anything that happens to her including getting beaten up and worse, I beg to differ.

I don't see how anyone can look at this forum objectively and say that anyone has had it as bad as her or even close. I really don't. I also don't know how anyone can defend some of the stuff that you seen on here time after time- slut, slag, ugly crack whore etc. but defend it in droves they do.

There's 'hating on' people on the internet but some times this can be taken to a whole different kind of level.

No doubt this post will be as popular as ever and you'll see the usual suspects actually try and defend the above because Helen 'deserves it' or some other such nonsense.”

I can't stand Helen but obviously the names you describe above are well over the top. Do these posters get reported? I don't care who the housemate is. This kind of thing should not happen.
petewalsh_walsh
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“The point is her odds have taken a huge swing in recent times. She had her pass to the final when she was 66/1 which was just three days ago. Opinion has also been more favourable towards her on the forum in recent times. I think people are now seeing a different side to Helen.”

Well the old spiteful nasty vicious side turned up in the Christmas task. She really does act like a 6 year old at times screaming 'i want'.
Penelope_Pitst1
07-07-2014
Originally Posted by Rufus Knights:
“Finally some common sense. Thank you.

I try to ignore all the really personal stuff but it is difficult. It's a shame people can be so full of hate and rage.”

Like attracts like. You are walking a very fine line calling out that behaviour in others whilst defending Helen who herself most certainly has no problem 'getting personal', and hating and raging at others.
king_kong1
07-07-2014
I've been a Helen fan since day one and it's great to see her popularity on the up. Helen FTW.
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