Helen will never been 'forgiven' by some on here. Nothing she says or does will change this, and even if another HM does the same or worse between now and the end of the series, she will be still be the most vilified. Whatever action she takes it will be spun into a negative by the usual suspects.

Her 'crimes' have been magnified to quite ridiculous levels, even being compared to Hitler at one point (and I don't even think it was some kind of parody Godwin jokey post either), and I actually don't recall seeing more vitriolic and offensive stuff posted about any one HM on here, and I most definitely include Linda Nolan in this.

Genuinely outrageous, and disturbingly bitter stuff.

It is what it is.

She doesn't need any forgiveness from me. She's the type of person I would avoid like the plague. She has far less redeeming qualities than she has redeeming ones imo.

You can't welcome Digital Sid aboard, Digital Sid is saying (s)he was already aboard.

For the love of God, the OP is clutching at straws, the top six are the ones to watch. All the others are canon fodder, however, Helen the Whore of Boltanlon, with her pass has more chance than those who don't have a pass and who have no chance of winning. Hence why her odds are higher. Take away the pass and her odds will go lower than that vile whore's mouth on a punter in a Bolton back alley.

Forgiving her and forgetting that she's been a show-ruining nightmare are two very different things.

Her "crimes" are much more minimised than maximised these days. And as mjgirl pointed out above, the 'forgive and forget' line is being used quite selectively, for instance for Helen but not for Toya.

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You've quoted this 1% before and as for the comment about people coming on here to have a pop? It's a forum for debate! And all I can see are people picking holes in you and your fellow Helen supporter’s arguments. Try as hard as you want to justify the unjustifiable it just won't wash with right thinking people.

Not changed my feelings about her. Don't like her and won't like her.

Well done you've just summed up Helen perfectly.

Op is Helen's cousin right?

Helen owes you a drink for canvasing in here on her behalf. Your cousin is a bully. She is aggressive and threatening. She dominates via intimidation and overbearing. Her idea of communication in conflict is to shout and insult and swear. She is only still in the house due to being given a free pass otherwise she would almost certainly be long gone. In other words its like being in a race where everyone has to run except Helen who is planted a yard from the finish line. It was more than a stroke of luck for Helen and something almost all viewers have not been happy about. Either way i think when you consider the world cup and her connection to wayne Rooney, the fact that she agreed to going in as a civilian as opposed to a celeb its not a stretch to imagine a deal was struck with BB to ensure Helen stayed in giving Helen the opportunity to 'turn the public opinion of her around' whilst generating publicity for BB. Shame for BB that England bombed out the world cup so soon. The free pass to my mind sealed the deal....so there is the whiff of deceit and cheating. I think its possible Pauline was paid off to choose Helen. Many housemates have reported being scared of her temper and wish she wasn't there. She has had numerous warnings due to her anti social behaviour yet has not been removed from the house. The papers have reported that some of her worst and vilest rants and attacks have not been shown due to how offensive they have been. Even when she is being her version of 'nice' she keeps meticulous score ready to reel out these incidences should she not get her own way, instead beating the person she has been vaguely civilised towards over the head with them as if normal social behaviour entitles her to recieve some special reward. Fair play to you for championing her, someone has to and only family could. All the same she is distinctly unlikeable and will discover this when she leaves the house. Idon't see many social invites coming her way. Do you? The only win for her is to leave the house and watch the show back to see how she appears to others and awareness dawns. Losing and understanding why is likely to be the wake up call she needs......and she does need one. If she has the level of honesty with herself that she uses to justify the insults she hurls at others on a regular basis she might actually pull a more personal and profound win out of the bag. One that has more substance than winning BB and might actually have long lasting benefts for her. As it stands Helen's problems will not be solved by a win on BB, which is a ship fast sinking anyway.

Absolutely well said Penelope.

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Well maybe so but that's a fact!

The OP started this post about Helen's odds which people like you have jumped on it to post the same old boring comments that you have on the several hundred other threads about Helen so that isn't debating anything relating to the OP's post! I guess we will see who is the right thinking on final night!

Good post

Helen is disgusting

Even Nastleigh's joined Team Helen.

You appear to be quoting my post here, at least have the decency to do so properly I posted Helen is the sort of person who ruins lives

Bullies do ruin lives, in my opinion Helen is a bully, she didn't become one solely for the show I presume?

Well said!

Nastleigh? Jeez.. I'm embarrassed for you

That's nothing.

I've seen people totally write her off as a human being, suggest her son is being neglected and should be taken off her and numerous posters have posted and then pointed and laughed at pictures of her battered face after she was beaten and had her nose broken. Classy.

The above isn't even the worst of it and yet some people make the claim that the likes of Ashleigh have had worse. Unless I have seen people talking about her gaping, ruined sti ridden vaginas or how she would deserve anything that happens to her including getting beaten up and worse, I beg to differ.

I don't see how anyone can look at this forum objectively and say that anyone has had it as bad as her or even close. I really don't. I also don't know how anyone can defend some of the stuff that you seen on here time after time- slut, slag, ugly crack whore etc. but defend it in droves they do.

There's 'hating on' people on the internet but some times this can be taken to a whole different kind of level.

No doubt this post will be as popular as ever and you'll see the usual suspects actually try and defend the above because Helen 'deserves it' or some other such nonsense.

Great post!

Very well said!

Finally some common sense. Thank you.

I try to ignore all the really personal stuff but it is difficult. It's a shame people can be so full of hate and rage.

Helen is the one full of hate and rage, I mean seriously was being left out of one party really such a big deal, did it deserve the vitriol she directed at Christopher, that is not normal behaviour really is it

You are showing some of the hypocrisy traits of Helen as you yourself have been pretty vocal in your condemnation of Ashleigh. As for not debating the stats produced by the OP REALLY! Read the rest of the post, it was an excuse to express support for her which is their right as it is for anyone who wants to counter their ridiculous arguments without the usual "well everyone does it".

I can't stand Helen but obviously the names you describe above are well over the top. Do these posters get reported? I don't care who the housemate is. This kind of thing should not happen.

Well the old spiteful nasty vicious side turned up in the Christmas task. She really does act like a 6 year old at times screaming 'i want'.

Like attracts like. You are walking a very fine line calling out that behaviour in others whilst defending Helen who herself most certainly has no problem 'getting personal', and hating and raging at others.

I've been a Helen fan since day one and it's great to see her popularity on the up. Helen FTW.