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World Cup Winners Normally Have a Great Goalie...
Germany it is then.
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I can't remember a time when Germany didn't have a great goal keeper. Yet they haven't won the title in 24 years.
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I can't remember a time when Germany didn't have a great goal keeper. Yet they haven't won the title in 24 years.
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In 1970, the Brazil team, classed as the best, had a very average keeper in Felix. So this is all a lot of tosh....
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In 1970, the Brazil team, classed as the best, had a very average keeper in Felix. So this is all a lot of tosh....
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The 1994 Brazil team didn't have a good goalkeeper, as Taferal was average at best I would say.
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Apart from Brazil
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Well Germany sure got a top guy this time.
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Fabien Barthez was pretty crap too
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Well Germany sure got a top guy this time.
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Yes. World cup winners outfield players are so good, they generally do not need a top goalie.
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Yes. World cup winners outfield players are so good, they generally do not need a top goalie.
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eh...clarify please
![]() No-one in brazil grows up wanting to be a goalie. In the past brazil have been so good attacking the quality of the goalie didnt matter. |
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We started off saying winners need a good goalie, but in fact they dont really
No-one in brazil grows up wanting to be a goalie. In the past brazil have been so good attacking the quality of the goalie didnt matter. |
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If you win the World Cup generally it's because your team are pretty good and hence your keeper will be pretty good.
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If you win the World Cup generally it's because your team are pretty good and hence your keeper will be pretty good.
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Yep, I'm sure we'd all agree that Nery Pumpido was the main reason that Argentina won the world cup in 1986...
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Neuer is obviously the best keeper in the world at the moment, but funnily enough Van Gaal had a massive row with Bayern Munich over him because he refused to buy him. He has some kind of bizarre issue with goal keepers. Surely Krul would have been a better choice for Holland's no.1 if he doesn't even trust his keeper to save penalties? It's weird.
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Neuer is obviously the best keeper in the world at the moment, but funnily enough Van Gaal had a massive row with Bayern Munich over him because he refused to buy him. He has some kind of bizarre issue with goal keepers. Surely Krul would have been a better choice for Holland's no.1 if he doesn't even trust his keeper to save penalties? It's weird.
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What about Ben Amos?
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Okay, so since 1970:
1970 - Brazil - Felix Not really considered a world-class keeper 1974 - West Germany - Sepp Maier One of the best goalkeepers of his era 1978 - Argentina - Ubaldo Fillol Probably one of the better keepers at the World Cup, but not generally considered a world-class player 1982 - Italy - Dino Zoff One of the best keepers in the world at the time 1986 - Argentina - Nery Pumpido Not considered a particularly good keeper 1990 - West Germany - Bodo Illgner Not considered that great before the World Cup, but his stock rose dramatically after it 1994 - Brazil - Claudio Taffarel Generally considered quite a weak keeper, certainly not world-class 1998 - France - Fabien Barthez Eccentric, but generally considered a very good keeper 2002 - Brazil - Marcos Had a good tournament, but had not been thought of as a particularly good keeper before that 2006 - Italy - Gianluigi Buffon Best keeper in the world at the time 2010 - Spain - Iker Casillas Best keeper in the world at the time So I make it that of the last 11 World Cups, four were won by teams with a genuinely world-class keeper, three were won by teams with "good" goalkeepers, and four were won by teams with goalkeepers who were considered distinctly mediocre. So I don't really accept the premise. |
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Well hasn't Manuel Neuer put that idiotic thinking to rest. The man is amazing.
If team are that good, it really doesn't matter if the keeper isn't all that. He would have little to do anyway. Brazil have demonstrated that in the past. |
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