I'm certainly not a 'Jale detractor'. I admired the way she dealt with Pauline and I really championed her while she was enduring all the 'maggot'/'slug' insults and Tamara saying 'She looks thick' etc. I liked her very much and thought she handled adversity well. But there is no question she was trying to humiliate Chris in a very unkind and untrue way. She knew what she was doing and there was a bit of cruelty to it (also the 'Don't touch me' comment was rather over-dramatic and, again, said purely to humiliate him in front of the group).

I didn't notice that inference until the other thread appeared on this subject yesterday. I took it to mean that she found it disturbing that a grown man would indulge in tittle tattle with younger and more impressionable people. My interpretation was that her annoyance was that while play ground bitching was to be expected from two young girls, it was an unedifying spectacle in a 33 year old sensible man who (she thought) should have set a better example.

It didn't cross my mind to put a pervy inference on it.

No its not silly at all, the only people seeing it as an insinuation of sinister proportions are her detractors, and I preferred to use that word rather than hater's of which she has many atm.You can have an opinion and so can I and my opinion on this matter is that people are taking offence where non was intented other than to show how disturbed that she felt at Chris's betrayal.He is 33 and not a schoolboy, so why act like one.

I agree she came out laughing with the other members of the covern and sat back (along wjth Kim) relishing as Helens claws came out to attack Ashleigh.

As much as I am not a Helen fan I do find a couple of her 'sayings' catchy. The one you posted and 'Always in the right ... Always in the right'

I think that too and I believe that is the most rational thought, however all rationality seems to have flown with regard to Jale, seems like many people who liked and respected her actually never really did and were always on the lookout for a get out clause........I can think of no other reasons for this sudden irrational hate towards her tbh, she has not changed, she is still the same level headed down to earth up front girl that she came in as.And imo even though she has some faults (a bit bossy and condecending at times) is along with Christopher the two most decent housemates we have seen in a few years and most certainly among this years class.

I am sure Jale could find a sly way to explain away her words ,but it is clear from the way she said those words that she knew the seed she was trying to plant in the viewers minds about Chris

Yeah..........as clear as mud.

Indeed. In the minds of those who want to think the worst of her.

Why can't people give an opinion on something a hm does without being called a detractor. I personally don't have a problem with Jale although she's not my favourite, but I did think that was a bit off.

Seconded!

That wasn't clear to me. I thought she was scolding him for indulging in childish gossip with silly young women. Different minds - different inferences.

Jale is not a very nice person, imo she is very sly and does everything for effect.....I hope she gets a taxi home on Friday.......

Oh yes, Jale knows exactly what she is saying, she is not stupid. It is obvious to anyone really apart from her fans of course. Horrible nasty woman.

Don't kid your self Jale thought that while she had Chris on the ropes apologising when he had done nothing wrong , she would try and damage his image as well

Yes she is really nasty, always dealing with things fairly rational, never resorting to nasty name calling, forgiving people their judgement of her, never resorting to personal insults about the appearance of others and wanting to have fun, she seems just like the anti to Helen and Ashleigh who are the real nasty ones in there.

Mind reader extraordinaire by any chance?

I disagree.

And what image would that be we heard Jale use the same words when Marlon pushed the button so I don't think it entered her head that she was making him out to be a Perv

Oh FGS get a grip, if you want Jale out - vote her out, just stop making such petty threads.

Jale has shown her true colours, shame, she played a good game in the early weeks. I hope she goes on Friday.

I'm not sure what her intentions where however by utilising the words as she did 'young girls' there are no young girls in the house there are only young women and they are all over 18. To imply that he should not talk or fratanise with 'young girls' while in the house does not make sense. ....she is not his mother and...........seemingly as she knows he is up for eviction perhaps the rationale behind her wanting a to 'talk' him is not the helpful act one might think.

Yup, that's generally how a thread on a forum works

That's how I took it - that he should act like a man.

I don't think we are watching the same show.

The Jale of the first two weeks is radically different to the Jale of the last three weeks. Of course some of that has to do with being ostracised by most of the other housemate in the beginning.

No, I mean disappointing. I am disappointed because in the early weeks, Jale was one of the people I really liked. Stop trying to put words into my mouth, I'm well aware of what I'm trying to say, thanks.

This is a thread about Jale and Chris, I don't take that much interest in Marlon, I don't like him very much, never have.