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Old 10-07-2014, 00:11
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I expect there will be a lot of looking back to these two finals in the next few days.

I remember 86 as being pretty good, with 90 being a bit of a stinker.

Was also an important combination of games as it was fulfilling a "mirrored prophecy" that England were due to win the World Cup in 1998 (From 1966 winners were England, Brazil, Germany, Argentina, Italy (and reflect point), Argentina, Germany, Brazil.............France )

Heres some highlights

1986...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpDc3HiuTnM

1990...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0zy_UakAnY
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:14
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West Germany v Argentina 1990 with English commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybj5I44nBnE

My favourite bit is the Argentinian players shoving the referee about in frustration after he dishes out their second red card.
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:15
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I remember 86 as being pretty good, with 90 being a bit of a stinker.
Argentina stunk out the World Cup in 1990 like a great big turd. Unfortunately in the final Germany sunk to their level instead of wiping the floor with them. An awful final.
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:19
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West Germany v Argentina 1990 with English commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybj5I44nBnE

My favourite bit is the Argentinian players shoving the referee about in frustration after he dishes out their second red card.


Ah, sorry, I checked the 86 one was in English, but not the 90 one.

The full games can be found on there too, I might stick on the 90 one to see how bad it really was (cant have been worse than the semi we have just seen, surely ?)
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:19
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Argentina stunk out the World Cup in 1990 like a great big turd. Unfortunately in the final Germany sunk to their level instead of wiping the floor with them. An awful final.
That is exactly how I remember it.
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:26
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Short video of Maradona 86 highlights, with Aztec Gold Music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvptendlG2M
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:44
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Guess who will be playing a friendly international on 3rd September in Düsseldorf?

Germany v Argentina
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:47
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Guess who will be playing a friendly international on 3rd September in Düsseldorf?

Germany v Argentina
Haha, didnt know that
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:49
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Guess who will be playing a friendly international on 3rd September in Düsseldorf?

Germany v Argentina
Will you be going to see the newly crowned world champions?
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Old 10-07-2014, 00:58
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That depends.
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Old 10-07-2014, 08:57
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this German team has the measure of the Argies...it could be another embarassment.
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Old 10-07-2014, 10:04
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If this Final ends up being even half as good as the 1986 clash then we'll be in for a treat.
But, unfortunately, the way Argentina will set up suggests it won't be anything like that.
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Old 10-07-2014, 15:31
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Lets hope its not remembered like that 1990 final which seems to be been played in the same way as the Netherlands v Spain game last time..

TBH Neither strike me as teams who will go out to hack each other and they wouldn't get away with it.
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Old 10-07-2014, 17:32
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1986 was a brilliant Final, 1990 not so much although German fans won`t care. Italy should have won the 1990 World Cup, they didn`t concede a goal until the second half of the Semi Final. Walter Zenga....that`s YOU I am referring to.
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Old 10-07-2014, 17:45
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West Germany v Argentina 1990 with English commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybj5I44nBnE

My favourite bit is the Argentinian players shoving the referee about in frustration after he dishes out their second red card.
Maradona was a little shit. With the emphasis on little. And shit.
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Old 10-07-2014, 17:45
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1990 was the year England had a better team than Germany and a real chance of winning the WC (once Italy were out).
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Old 10-07-2014, 19:26
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Maradona was a little shit. With the emphasis on little. And shit.
Nope. Not one bit. He seems to be the only player trying to calm down the situation and gets a yellow card for his troubles.
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Old 12-07-2014, 19:24
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Argentina's 1990 team must be the worst side to ever reach the World Cup final.
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Old 12-07-2014, 19:41
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Argentina's 1990 team must be the worst side to ever reach the World Cup final.
That prize has to go to Germany in 2002.
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Old 12-07-2014, 20:19
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That prize has to go to Germany in 2002.
At least the Germans got to that final by winning matches in normal time rather than playing for a penalty shoot out victory from the first whistle like Argentina did in 1990.

I don't recall them getting as many cards as the Argentinians did back then either.
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Old 12-07-2014, 22:19
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That prize has to go to Germany in 2002.
I disagree. Argentina in 1990 were a disgrace. Ill-disciplined, dirty with very little quality. They only just scraped through their group.
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Old 12-07-2014, 23:03
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1986 was a great final
1990 was THE WORST FINAL EVER
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Old 13-07-2014, 23:23
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1986 was a great final
1990 was THE WORST FINAL EVER
2010 was pretty bad as well
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Old 14-07-2014, 10:21
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Say what you like about Argentina in 1990, at least they didn't kung-fu kick anyone in the final and they never had anyone as dirty as De Jong and Van Bommel.
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Old 14-07-2014, 10:59
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That prize has to go to Germany in 2002.
I know people say that but the actual match was better than many other finals. 1990, 94, 2006 and 2010 spring to mind as poor.
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