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Definitely agree with that.

Thank you!

Thanks! :3

So it ok for him to laugh amd make fun of her?

Nail on head.

No more ok for her to smash an egg on his head. Would she have done that to Ash?

In a light-hearted, friendly manner? Yes, that's what friends do. She just got overly defensive.

Yes, that weak underlying character is what's been exposed lately. The Jale of the first two weeks wouldn't have gone along with Helen giving Ashleigh all the flak for something Jale was also responsible for, nor would she have been disrespectful to the weaker HMs as she is now. Sadly to be accepted by the cool gang she's had to become like them.

To me that just shows how comfortable she is with the less cool gang Isn't it normally the case that you can confront and tell off your friends or people that you are close to but not so much others. Having said that I think people have a very messed up memory of things as Jale did confront Pauline on a couple of occasions and she talked to Toya and she has directly asked Helen about how she deals with things and how she might take on and deal with things.

I really like Jale but I like all of the nominees this week so finding it quite a depressing experience and this negative targeting of Jale in order to save Ashleigh is turning me off all together tbh.

Any one see all the nominees in the diary room on BOTS tonight? They ALL looked relaxed and happy and Jale was amusing as ever

Of course she wouldn't but then that just proves she isn't close to Ash. It was Mark as well as her in that 'joke' and they did it to Christopher because they are both close to him.

Jale was overly defensive about Christopher in that clip but he seemed to take it on the chin. I really don't think it's the deal people are making it out to be on here but that doesn't surprise me tbh

But she does not look comfortable with the less so cool gang anymore, she wants in that IT crowd, and when she doesn't feel part of the IT crowd she will shuffle back to the others.

Agreed.

interesting, but hard to quantify. I will take a mad guess with no evidence and say that it could be a sado-masochistic thing.

I would like to see that, Ash would have agreed .....

Yes. Whereas the saying is to "keep your friends close but keep your enemies closer",
Jale seems to be keeping her enemies close but pushing her friends away.

Very strange.

If they show that clip with Christopher on tomorrow's HLs (and early enough), it could seal her fate.

She really does talk down to Christopher for some reason. Jale is very self-assured and it has stopped her from having fun, I wish she would lighten up.

It was horrible how she was speaking to Christopher last night. I don't know what he had done to annoy her but it certainly won't be anything worse than what Helen or Ash have done and we haven't seen her berate them in that manner.

I liked Jale in the first few days. I went off her after the "human dartboard" comment. I think Jale was thoroughly enjoying her role as the underdog. After Helen apologised to her though that was gone. In Helen's eyes you are either under her thumb or you are against her. Jale and Kim were falling over themselves to get in Helen's gang. The only difference between Helen and Jale as far as I can see is that Helen loves an audience when she is haranguing somebody and Jale does it one on one.

Great post.