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Jale more likely to nominate similar to Helen's group?
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cjandrews
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“Rubbish.

It would be Marlon, then Chris.”

If she nominates Marlon after the closeness of their relationship I'll be shocked. Plus on BOTS she was having a heated disagreement with Christopher, hence why I think he'll be one of her nominations this week. I think it'll also be Chris after the footage she saw of him slating her.

She wouldn't dare nominate one of Helen's group to their face which is why she'll target the others.
dorsetwasp
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by cjandrews:
“If she nominates Marlon after the closeness of their relationship I'll be shocked. Plus on BOTS she was having a heated disagreement with Christopher, hence why I think he'll be one of her nominations this week. I think it'll also be Chris after the footage she saw of him slating her.

She wouldn't dare nominate one of Helen's group to their face which is why she'll target the others.”

I agree, if it's face-to-face she won't go against the clique. I doubt she'd vote Marlon now that he's apologised, I reckon it would be Chris or Christopher.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by sammyvan:
“Not a snowballs chance in hell that she would vote any of Helen's group - maybe in a normal nomination but never 'face to face'.
That would be such a waste of the last two weeks - all that effort for naught!
I still live in hope she may go tonight, but after last week I'm not holding my breath!”

She would vote whomever she wanted face to face and Ash would be one of them.
She is not afraid of Helen, unlike some. In a Question and Answers task in the early weeks, Jale was asked on front of the group 'Who is the biggest game-pl;ayer?' and she said Helen. In the farmers task she wasn't afraid to make a decision, though she knew the others watched, unlike Marlon and Christopher.
She has never been swayed by others in there and can get along with them all once they are reasonable towards her.
Scarlett Berry
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by dorsetwasp:
“I agree, if it's face-to-face she won't go against the clique. I doubt she'd vote Marlon now that he's apologised, I reckon it would be Chris or Christopher.”

Put both our houses on it...
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by Scarlett Berry:
“Put both our houses on it...”

You'd be homeless then
Vesna
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“She was downright rude to Christopher this week, of course she will nominate him.”

Actually he was downright CRUEL to her. She has asked him over and over not to talk about something that embarrasses her, yet he continues to do it. You know I have lots of good feelings towards Christopher but your statement is total bullshit he's the bad friend. Or do you totally disregard your friends feelings and hurt them again and again, like Christopher does.
psychedelic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“Actually he was downright CRUEL to her. She has asked him over and over not to talk about something that embarrasses her, yet he continues to do it. You know I have lots of good feelings towards Christopher but your statement is total bullshit he's the bad friend. Or do you totally disregard your friends feelings and hurt them again and again, like Christopher does.”

You're doing a good job of describing Jale's behaviour to the people who supported her when she had no-one else, since she got in with Helen's gang.
chicksee
11-07-2014
In a face to face, Jale will nominate both Chris's .. She wants to stay in with the cool kids, friends are nothing to her.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“You're doing a good job of describing Jale's behaviour to the people who supported her when she had no-one else, since she got in with Helen's gang.”

Do you watch the show? If you did you would observe that Jale is rarely in the same shot with Helen. She is the majority of the time sitting with Chris, Christopher and Marlon or the whole group. Just because she is not hiding in a corner bitching does not mean she is with Helen.
MACTOWIN
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Do you watch the show? If you did you would observe that Jale is rarely in the same shot with Helen. She is the majority of the time sitting with Chris, Christopher and Marlon or the whole group. Just because she is not hiding in a corner bitching does not mean she is with Helen.”

She bitches plenty from what I have witnessed.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by MACTOWIN:
“She bitches plenty from what I have witnessed.”

If you were to categorize them all in there by type, you would not call Jale the bitch.
psychedelic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Do you watch the show? If you did you would observe that Jale is rarely in the same shot with Helen. She is the majority of the time sitting with Chris, Christopher and Marlon or the whole group. Just because she is not hiding in a corner bitching does not mean she is with Helen.”

You honestly think that she doesn't consider herself firmly in Helen's camp?
trevor tiger
11-07-2014
Strange how yet again Jale is being criticised based on nothing other than the prejudiced negative views forum members have of her or maybe not so strange 'roll eyes' Now for some facts: Who has actually nominated Christopher out of Chris and Jale? Yes it was Chris, Who nominated Ash along with Ashleigh last week totally going against Helen's wishes out of Chris and Jale? Mm Jale again and tell me who nominated Chris and then Christopher out of petty spitefulness? Danielle Even Jale nominating Chris was against Helen's wishes though that is just another fact most seem to chose to forget.

I'm not saying Ashleigh has nominated 'badly' at all or will do but why knowing all of this do people keep maintaining that Jale will nominate as per the so called cool gang Why, other than to denigrate her yet again and rally forum members to vote her out
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“You honestly think that she doesn't consider herself firmly in Helen's camp? ”

Yes that's what I think based on what I see every night and she has said she wants to get along with everyone. Is there something wrong with that?
Vesna
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“You're doing a good job of describing Jale's behaviour to the people who supported her when she had no-one else, since she got in with Helen's gang.”

You're doing a terrible job of backing up anything you say about Jale with proof.

Sorry to burst the fantasy that Jale is in Helens group. Those pesky facts always get in the way. Jale has always nominated people who are close to Helen.
psychedelic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Yes that's what I think based on what I see every night and she has said she wants to get along with everyone. Is there something wrong with that?”

What she says and what she does are 2 completely different things, exactly the same as Kimberley.
James Frederick
11-07-2014
I disagree one of the reasons I want rid of Ashleigh is to get rid of a threat to either of the Chris's as when they are all up again her fans may target one of them the way they did Jale this week.

Plus when it comes to the win she is a threat.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Strange how yet again Jale is being criticised based on nothing other than the prejudiced negative views forum members have of her or maybe not so strange 'roll eyes' Now for some facts: Who has actually nominated Christopher out of Chris and Jale? Yes it was Chris, Who nominated Ash along with Ashleigh last week totally going against Helen's wishes out of Chris and Jale? Mm Jale again and tell me who nominated Chris and then Christopher out of petty spitefulness? Danielle Even Jale nominating Chris was against Helen's wishes though that is just another fact most seem to chose to forget.

I'm not saying Ashleigh has nominated 'badly' at all or will do but why knowing all of this do people keep maintaining that Jale will nominate as per the so called cool gang Why, other than to denigrate her yet again and rally forum members to vote her out ”

''There's none so blind as those who will not see''.. unfortunately
psychedelic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vesna:
“You're doing a terrible job of backing up anything you say about Jale with proof.

Sorry to burst the fantasy that Jale is in Helens group. Those pesky facts always get in the way. Jale has always nominated people who are close to Helen. ”

I don't have to provide proof, Jale does it herself in almost every highlights show. I thought she was going to be a good HM at the start but she has changed completely, I would like her to go and it's not particularly anything to do with Ashleigh, Ashleigh is not my favourite HM, at one stage that was Jale.
Vesna
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I disagree one of the reasons I want rid of Ashleigh is to get rid of a threat to either of the Chris's as when they are all up again her fans may target one of them the way they did Jale this week.

Plus when it comes to the win she is a threat.”

they aren't her fans though, they appear to have only one motivation and that's not a love for Ashleigh it's a dislike of Helen. That's why they can't back up one statement about Jale or Ashleigh

Blinded by Helen. So sad.
Vesna
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“I don't have to provide proof, Jale does it herself in almost every highlights show. I thought she was going to be a good HM at the start but she has changed completely, I would like her to go and it's not particularly anything to do with Ashleigh, Ashleigh is not my favourite HM, at one stage that was Jale.”

You do actually.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“I don't have to provide proof, Jale does it herself in almost every highlights show. I thought she was going to be a good HM at the start but she has changed completely, I would like her to go and it's not particularly anything to do with Ashleigh, Ashleigh is not my favourite HM, at one stage that was Jale.”

Would you have preferred if she had remained victimized and friendless??
Scrovegni
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“You honestly think that she doesn't consider herself firmly in Helen's camp? ”

The fact that she nominated the only HM Helen cares about and the reason she nominated him (encouraging Helen's bad behaviour) suggests that Jale would nominate Helen too if she could makes me think she doesn't consider herself in Helen's camp.
Alrightmate
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Strange how yet again Jale is being criticised based on nothing other than the prejudiced negative views forum members have of her or maybe not so strange 'roll eyes' Now for some facts: Who has actually nominated Christopher out of Chris and Jale? Yes it was Chris, Who nominated Ash along with Ashleigh last week totally going against Helen's wishes out of Chris and Jale? Mm Jale again and tell me who nominated Chris and then Christopher out of petty spitefulness? Danielle Even Jale nominating Chris was against Helen's wishes though that is just another fact most seem to chose to forget.

I'm not saying Ashleigh has nominated 'badly' at all or will do but why knowing all of this do people keep maintaining that Jale will nominate as per the so called cool gang Why, other than to denigrate her yet again and rally forum members to vote her out ”

I'm not denigrating Jale but a face to face nomination scenario is very different to nominating in the diary room.
It's like a game environment. I would suspect that she will be thinking game and nominating in the safest way she can to avoid the risk of being nominated next time.
dialectic
11-07-2014
Originally Posted by psychedelic:
“What she says and what she does are 2 completely different things, exactly the same as Kimberley.”

No, like I said, she says she wants to get on with everyone and from what we see she is the only one doing her best to get on with everyone,
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