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Peter Barlow is the worst Dad in Soap?
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Brookside
12-07-2014
[quote=perpet83;73677387]
Originally Posted by Brookside:
“Locking up Sienna in the basement.
Giving away Nico in the pretence she is dead.
Threatening her with mental instituation.



Also neglecting him when he was a baby and getting jealous when Kathy gave him attention.

Stealing Louise away from and depriving her of her mother when she was a baby for no reason other than selfish ego and possessiveness. I never liked Peggy much but one of the few decent things she did was realising Louise was better off with Lisa and returning her. You only have to look at how Ben turned out to realise Louise had a lucky escape.”

Wasn't Lisa Fowler in a breakdown by then?
perpet83
12-07-2014
[quote=Brookside;73677585]
Originally Posted by perpet83:
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Wasn't Lisa Fowler in a breakdown by then?”

No, at that point Lisa was perfectly happy and living in Portugal when Phil tracked her down and broke her mentally to get her to hand Louise over.

It was years later that she had the breakdown and left Louise with a neighbour who then dropped her off in Walford. When she returned she wanted Louise back but Phil refused til Peggy saw sense and took Louise back to her.

Of course any decent father would support the mother of his child if she had mental health problems, not use it as an excuse to separate them completely.
Spin turn
12-07-2014
Originally Posted by catsitter:
“Surely Terry Duckworth must be in the running for the title?”

My vote for worst dad in Corrie, yes. Far worse than Peter, who at least means well.

Terry sold his son Tommy twice. Returns when he is an adult. Nearly kills Tommy's girlfriend Tina (!), blames it on the loan shark. Eventually disappears with all Tommy's money.
Brookside
12-07-2014
[quote=perpet83;73677851]
Originally Posted by Brookside:
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No, at that point Lisa was perfectly happy and living in Portugal when Phil tracked her down and broke her mentally to get her to hand Louise over.

It was years later that she had the breakdown and left Louise with a neighbour who then dropped her off in Walford. When she returned she wanted Louise back but Phil refused til Peggy saw sense and took Louise back to her.

Of course any decent father would support the mother of his child if she had mental health problems, not use it as an excuse to separate them completely.”

I meant the second part you just told me. She wasn't in a fit mental state to have her though?
Brookside
12-07-2014
Originally Posted by Spin turn:
“My vote for worst dad in Corrie, yes. Far worse than Peter, who at least means well.”

Apart from selling Tommy Duckworth and then landing him in trouble with those thugs on his last stint, I know nothing about him. Why doesn't he speak to Kevin Webster, won't they friends?

Is Paul Clayton his only other child as well?
Spin turn
12-07-2014
Yep, forgot about Paul and the kidney transplant. Terry is described here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Duckworth

I think Kevin just knows Terry too well. There might be some history. Can't remember.
perpet83
12-07-2014
[quote=Brookside;73677911]
Originally Posted by perpet83:
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I meant the second part you just told me. She wasn't in a fit mental state to have her though?”

Lisa may have been mentally fragile but she was still about a thousand times better as a parent than Philth.
Brookside
12-07-2014
Originally Posted by Spin turn:
“Yep, forgot about Paul and the kidney transplant. Terry is described here: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Duckworth

I think Kevin just knows Terry too well. There might be some history. Can't remember.”

He tried it on with Sally Webster I bet.

Violent Kevin and Terry friends once upon a time, wonder how that worked?
Brookside
12-07-2014
[quote=perpet83;73678196]
Originally Posted by Brookside:
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Lisa may have been mentally fragile but she was still about a thousand times better as a parent than Philth.”

From experience mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed kids. They destroy you mentally over the years...
billio
12-07-2014
Originally Posted by mo mouse:
“As far as mothers go, Kylie wins it hands down although Leanne is a disgrace as well.”

Yes, Kylie is appalling, and Leanne took Simon from Peter out of spite. After winning, she doesn't seem to invest the true care that a parent should. Uprooting him again with a new relationship.

Peter was fairly rubbish but he did try. Without Leanne haranguing, badmouthing and undermining him he might have done better.
J-B
12-07-2014
If it helps I'm a great dad.
NathanJohnson
12-07-2014
Originally Posted by billio:
“Yes, Kylie is appalling, and Leanne took Simon from Peter out of spite. After winning, she doesn't seem to invest the true care that a parent should. Uprooting him again with a new relationship.

Peter was fairly rubbish but he did try. Without Leanne haranguing, badmouthing and undermining him he might have done better.”

Leanne's only interest in Simon is using him against others. Take Nick for example, when he is being ruthless with her she brought up the whole "let's be civil for Simon's sake" and trying to claim he needs stability. However she showed more interest in getting with Kal. Thankfully Nick saw through this pathetic attempt.
Brookside
13-07-2014
Kylie Platt s a awful parent!

Taking Max out of school when he is failing for a holiday.
Kylie and her never ending "pushing her destruct button" routine.

Leanne at least cares about Simon unlike Carla Barlow tried to do.
trevor tiger
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by NathanJohnson:
“Leanne's only interest in Simon is using him against others. Take Nick for example, when he is being ruthless with her she brought up the whole "let's be civil for Simon's sake" and trying to claim he needs stability. However she showed more interest in getting with Kal. Thankfully Nick saw through this pathetic attempt.”

Spot on Leanne is a total hypocrite.

Originally Posted by Brookside:
“Kylie Platt s a awful parent!

Taking Max out of school when he is failing for a holiday.
Kylie and her never ending "pushing her destruct button" routine.

Leanne at least cares about Simon unlike Carla Barlow tried to do.”

Carla isn't Simon's mum though.
Brookside
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Spot on Leanne is a total hypocrite.



Carla isn't Simon's mum though.”

Both started off as his step mum. Leanne made way more effort.
trevor tiger
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Brookside:
“Both started off as his step mum. Leanne made way more effort.”

Come on Leanne was his mum albeit not birth mum. Carla just had a relationship with his Dad. All I mean is if we're talking about bad parents in soaps (Dad's originally ) it's starting to get somewhat off the point if we include every partner and spouse of a parent.
ally08
13-07-2014
Is it only Corrie that counts?

Peter is a shit dad, shit everything really, even a shit drunk, but when it comes to the real bad ones he is a pussy cat.

Has he raped any of his children/murdered their mothers/shagged their wives?

These things have all happened in soaps, he is basically a saint.
billio
13-07-2014
He's very flawed, and he's always failing.

However to be a really bad parent you have to show the intention to harm your child, or recklessness about doing so, and he hasn't. He has unintentionally caused Simon harm, but he has never belittled him, he praises Simon's abilities without seeing him as an extension of himself. There's never "he got his brains from me".

IMO - being a flawed, failing parent who is self-aware, he isn't going to do real damage to Simon's psyche.

I am aware this isn't real but IRL, a dad who's addicted but who admits his failings and who loves his son is better than the sort of dad who is critical and impossible to please, or who is controlling.

Better a loser / lush/ womaniser than a tyrant or bully. And at least the women he chooses aren't cowed by Peter, so Simon has plenty of strong women to learn from.
perpet83
13-07-2014
[quote=Brookside;73678241]
Originally Posted by perpet83:
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From experience mentally ill people shouldn't be allowed kids. They destroy you mentally over the years...”

Wow, just wow. You can't just tar all 'mentally ill' people with the same brush. You may be speaking from experience but it's still an incredibly ignorant comment.
k9fan
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“Come on Leanne was his mum albeit not birth mum. Carla just had a relationship with his Dad. All I mean is if we're talking about bad parents in soaps (Dad's originally ) it's starting to get somewhat off the point if we include every partner and spouse of a parent.”


Quite. The topic is about the worst Dad in Soap.


Originally Posted by ally08:
“Is it only Corrie that counts?

Peter is a shit dad, shit everything really, even a shit drunk, but when it comes to the real bad ones he is a pussy cat.

Has he raped any of his children/murdered their mothers/shagged their wives?

These things have all happened in soaps, he is basically a saint.”

No, it is about the worst Dad in Soap.
Peter has been a rotten father by neglect really, right from the beginning, but he has not been physically violent.
Fanntastik
13-07-2014
I think Max in EE is worse tbh.
Absolute Rotter
13-07-2014
There are a lot of contenders and any of them would be worthy winners
mo mouse
13-07-2014
Peter wins hands down though.
lolasofie
13-07-2014
He is up there with the worst of them but i would put

Max Branning first - Crap neglectful dad who has put his kids in harms way just to get a leg over .

Cain Dingle - doesnt bother with son Kyle and only gets involved with his daughter when he is at a lose end . Also a violent father over the years and abandoned both kids in their life .

Then there is Peter who is shocking ...but to be honest i would probably sell simon for a 6pack of larger if i was Peter because the kid is equally annoying .
NathanJohnson
13-07-2014
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“Quite. The topic is about the worst Dad in Soap.”

I can't see why it must just be fathers, it should really be Worst parents in soaps.

Look at Cilla Battersby, must be one of the worst mothers. Her kids end up in care then abandons her son. A really selfish individual.

Tyrone's mum wasn't any better, stole from him on his wedding day and Tyrone appeared to be neglected in his youth.
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