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is the great British soap opera dead? |
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is the great British soap opera dead?
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No. People are still watching them.
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Everything is dead in this fleeting five minute generation.
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Overall soaps aren't what they were 30 years ago.......but neither are people's lives. Society has changed a lot and soaps have reflected this.....mostly!
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I do think 10 - 15 years they will be all online.
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Its not dead just yet!
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We're all dead. Watching Bianca Jackson and Billy Mitchell's money problems for the billionth time is our purgatory.
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Yeah but not dead. They are dying slowly very slowly. There seems to have been a big hit on all the soaps and they are currently slowly dying. The boom in reality TV has not helped but as someone who's 19 and I can see why reality is very appealing. Reality soaps will be the next must see TV and soaps will fade out in years to come but atm they are fine but will never again be 'must see TV'.
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Overall soaps aren't what they were 30 years ago.......but neither are people's lives. Society has changed a lot and soaps have reflected this.....mostly!
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I only watch Corrie and I think much of the problems are due to Political Correctness.
For example take last years so called racism story. The thing that most made that story unbelievable was that everyone in the street was against what Paul said. In reality there would be a range of opinions about what he said and if the writers had presented it in that way that story may have worked better. Another example is that lack of any homophobic reactions towards the resident gay characters. Apart from initial reactions to someone coming out it is remarkable how easily people on the street accept gay characters. You find little or no evidence of homophobia. It will be interesting to see how Kal's mother reacts to the gay characters on the street. I am sure that there are many other examples stories that are affected or not used due to the problem of political correctness. |
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Dying gradually rather than dead and in SOME respects this is perfectly natural but I do think poor decisions has speeded up their ongoing demise.
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I think there's a chance they will die out with their viewers. The people of tomorrow might not like soaps. TV as we know it today may not even exist. Programmes might be available to stream as when you want. The only mass-watched programmes could be live sporting events or talent shows.
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That article is all over the place, first it says soaps aren' t dramatic enough compared to reality shows and real life then it says they are too dramatic. It complains that characters are nasty then complains that phil mitchell and david platt are being nice instead of being nasty. Also annoys me how it complains about some ethhnic characters being portrayed as phsycotic, so have white characters , mental health issues aren't race specific. If soaps died there would be notthing to replace them with, try and air x factor or towie all year round for decades and watch your ratings/ profits dramtically decline. Soaps beat everything bar the world cup in the ratings this past week.
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Personally I think 'proper dramas' are overshadowing the soaps more than the scripted reality fad. Shows that run in a seasonal format have far more opportunity to mix great characterisation with compelling must see plotlines. The soaps are just not as consistently brilliant enough to keep the general viewership glued night after night. Though I don't think they're dead, just not as much of appointment to view tv anymore.
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Spot on, things change and soaps have in the main reflected that, life today is different to what it was 20 years ago in 1994 or 30 years ago in 1984, people's habits change and society has changed there is now more choice in terms of TV stations then there was in years gone by, but soaps are still the most watched programmes in the UK. Long gone are the days of 20 or 30 million people watching an episode of Corrie or EastEnders but they are hardly dying like some suggest.
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Nah, we're still a long while off yet!
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This. It also becomes harder for soaps to continue on in the way they did in their heyday of yesteryear due to them having to constantly evolve to keep the public's interest. At the end of the day there's only so many times you can show episodes in people's everyday lives until they become boring/repetitive - things such as Billy Mitchell failing at everything he tries with good intentions or Bianca resorting to crime in order to tread water!
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I'm saying no
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Dunno how he can say this as was at corrie tour yesterday and couldn't believe the amount of people their. Sure has alot of fans.
Plus they do refer to telly cinema etc in corrie (apart from mention of world cup) Emily was watching breaking bad box set, Eva price referred to a film she watched at cinema other month, the likes of Gail etc refer to books reading sometimes, Steve said how he's like homer Simpson, always see the kids like max watching citv jungle run etc and fiz and Tyrone talked about gogglebox and explained it to some characters (can't remember who) a while back and they said how it their fave TV show |
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I think that another big change has been the use of soap elements in other mainstream drama's form Casualty to Doctor Who they all have them.
This was not the case in the old days. For example up until the early 2000's you would not have known that the characters in the Bill had a private life. After this period there private lives became as important as their jobs. |
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