• TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
  • Follow
    • Follow
    • facebook
    • twitter
    • google+
    • instagram
    • youtube
Hearst Corporation
  • TV
  • MOVIES
  • MUSIC
  • SHOWBIZ
  • SOAPS
  • GAMING
  • TECH
  • FORUMS
Forums
  • Register
  • Login
  • Forums
  • TV
  • Big Brother
Ashleigh - This year's 'Tweenie' fave?
<<
<
2 of 5
>>
>
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Show me evidence were there was a highly organized campaign against Matthew/ in favor of Ash all around twitter, Facebook and the various forums. There was hardly even an inkling that anyone was in favor of Ash staying. Matthew went because many people lazily shrugged off voting as they assumed Ash was going anyway.”

I don't use Twitter or Facebook so I can only go off the posts on here of people wanting him out and the numerous threads after he was evicted saying he went to spite Ashleigh. I don't see what's so HIGHLY organised about the Ashleigh campaign any "campaign" to get a housemate out. Oh yes Matthew going had nothing to do with Ashleigh, I'm sure there wasn't a single voter who voted him simply to spite Ashleigh, how convenient. You ignored my other question, what's all this hate that's being directed towards Jale?
Grandmother
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by rubyx93:
“Is this thread for real!? Ashleigh is the type of girl 'tweenies' hate! The tweenies are supporting the likes of Ash, winston and mark this year! Think ashleighs fan group is much more diverse!”

I'm not buying this. Firstly, Ashleigh, sulking in her dressing gown, bitching away, was like a James Dean icon for the Tweenie generation - 'Finally, someone like us is on BB!' That she's now 'standing up for herself' is ideal.

Secondly, Ash and Winston are way too pumped up and laddish for the Tweenie sector (by which, rightly or wrongly, I mean middle aged men and teenage girls) who tend to prefer prettier, more sensitive boys, like Crab Eyes.
Conehead
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“I'm not buying this. Firstly, Ashleigh, sulking in her dressing gown, bitching away, was like a James Dean icon for the Tweenie generation - 'Finally, someone like us is on BB!' That she's now 'standing up for herself' is ideal.

Secondly, Ash and Winston are way too pumped up and laddish for the Tweenie sector (by which, rightly or wrongly, I mean middle aged men and teenage girls) who tend to prefer prettier, more sensitive boys, like Crab Eyes.”

BIB - As an elderly gentleman tweenie, may I say that I found Crab Eyes rebarbative.
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“I'm not buying this. Firstly, Ashleigh, sulking in her dressing gown, bitching away, was like a James Dean icon for the Tweenie generation - 'Finally, someone like us is on BB!' That she's now 'standing up for herself' is ideal.

Secondly, Ash and Winston are way too pumped up and laddish for the Tweenie sector (by which, rightly or wrongly, I mean middle aged men and teenage girls) who tend to prefer prettier, more sensitive boys, like Crab Eyes.”

Are you a tweenie yourself? There were two posters on here (I think they were banned) who were tweenies (they admitted so) who said some unbelievably nasty things about Ashleigh, how she was ugly, deserved to suffer etc. I don't think anyone can really tarnish an entire age group with one brush, particularly if they're not part of that age group themselves.
dialectic
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by snariek:
“I don't use Twitter or Facebook so I can only go off the posts on here of people wanting him out and the numerous threads after he was evicted saying he went to spite Ashleigh. I don't see what's so HIGHLY organised about the Ashleigh campaign any "campaign" to get a housemate out. Oh yes Matthew going had nothing to do with Ashleigh, I'm sure there wasn't a single voter who voted him simply to spite Ashleigh, how convenient. You ignored my other question, what's all this hate that's being directed towards Jale?”

BIB On this forum all week and part of the campaign, as justification for keeping Ashleigh in. The campaign needed to target just one nominee, rather than dispersing the vote. So the campaign to evict Jale became nasty at times.
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“BIB On this forum all week and part of the campaign, as justification for keeping Ashleigh in. The campaign needed to target just one nominee, rather than dispersing the vote. So the campaign to evict Jale became nasty at times.”

Every campaign to evict any housemate becomes nasty. There's been plenty of nasty things said about Jale (and most housemates) on here for weeks. She's still gotten it easy compared to some. Her crowd reception was probably the mildest of the lot.
Grandmother
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by snariek:
“Every campaign to evict any housemate becomes nasty. There's been plenty of nasty things said about Jale (and most housemates) on here for weeks. She's still gotten it easy compared to some. Her crowd reception was probably the mildest of the lot.”

I think it's okay to say bad things about housemates online - I called for the execution of the Blobbies more than once last year. But, launching a campaign to mobilise, or manipulate, votes for or against whoever seems like a different level of crazy.
3rd World Disco
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“
I'll be treating anyone who speaks up for Ashleigh with suspicion from now on,”

Wow.

I'd love to see how strong your feelings could be during an actual good series of BB.
dialectic
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by snariek:
“Every campaign to evict any housemate becomes nasty. There's been plenty of nasty things said about Jale (and most housemates) on here for weeks. She's still gotten it easy compared to some. Her crowd reception was probably the mildest of the lot.”

Exactly, my argument is that the campaign felt it had to feign so much hate for Jale for the campaign to work, a tactic of spewing an avalanche of negative posts and encouraging a chorus of anti-Jale hysteria, which I felt went too far. She did not do anything that deserved that venom. The fact that the crowd didn't know nearly how to react proves that point.
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“I think it's okay to say bad things about housemates online - I called for the execution of the Blobbies more than once last year. But, launching a campaign to mobilise, or manipulate, votes for or against whoever seems like a different level of crazy.”

Regardless of the size of the "campaign", such a campaign exists with every eviction. Has there ever been an eviction in BB history that didn't have a get x out campaign on social media (since social media took off that is)? Hasn't every eviction this series so far with the exception of Pauline's had some kind of campaign to vote one housemate out in order to save another - Tamara/Danielle, Ash/Toya, Ash/Matthew? Wasn't there one last year to evict Sam to increase Dexter's chances of winning that very nearly worked? I don't remember there being many complaints about any of those.
daryl_spicer
13-07-2014
Ashleigh fitter than Jale init
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Exactly, my argument is that the campaign felt it had to feign so much hate for Jale for the campaign to work, a tactic of spewing an avalanche of negative posts and encouraging a chorus of anti-Jale hysteria, which I felt went too far. She did not do anything that deserved that venom. The fact that the crowd didn't know nearly how to react proves that point.”

It went no further than any other campaign to evict any other housemate. No housemate deserves some of the venom directed towards them on these forums. The crowd reaction proves eff all. If the the level of hate created for Jale from the save Ashleigh campaign is as strong as you're suggesting then she would have gotten the worst reaction of all time.
dialectic
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by snariek:
“Regardless of the size of the "campaign", such a campaign exists with every eviction. Has there ever been an eviction in BB history that didn't have a get x out campaign on social media (since social media took off that is)? Hasn't every eviction this series so far with the exception of Pauline's had some kind of campaign to vote one housemate out in order to save another - Tamara/Danielle, Ash/Toya, Ash/Matthew? Wasn't there one last year to evict Sam to increase Dexter's chances of winning that very nearly worked? I don't remember there being many complaints about any of those.”

Everybody else on this thread knows what we are talking about. Why don't you go back and read from the beginning. It's the level of the campaign -and remember it's not a vote to save! The fact that you think that there was the same (or any) campaign against Matthew last week means you don't know what is being talked about here, but I am too tired to spell it out any further. Goodnight.
snariek
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“Everybody else on this thread knows what we are talking about. Why don't you go back and read from the beginning. It's the level of the campaign -and remember it's not a vote to save! The fact that you think that there was the same (or any) campaign against Matthew last week means you don't know what is being talked about here, but I am too tired to spell it out any further. Goodnight.”

I clearly know exactly what you're trying to say I'm just finding many flaws in your argument that you can't defend. The fact that you think there wasn't any campaign at all against Matthew last week just goes to show that your problem is the fact that Ashleigh wasn't evicted, and has nothing to do with the campaign itself.
Grandmother
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by snariek:
“Regardless of the size of the "campaign", such a campaign exists with every eviction. Has there ever been an eviction in BB history that didn't have a get x out campaign on social media (since social media took off that is)? Hasn't every eviction this series so far with the exception of Pauline's had some kind of campaign to vote one housemate out in order to save another - Tamara/Danielle, Ash/Toya, Ash/Matthew? Wasn't there one last year to evict Sam to increase Dexter's chances of winning that very nearly worked? I don't remember there being many complaints about any of those.”

No idea, or interest really, except that this one was obviously enough of a factor for it to be mentioned on the show. Which implies it was more serious than usual. And that Ahleigh's fanbase is therefore more committed and/or insane than anything the producers have been used to in a while.
vikesuk
13-07-2014
The tweenie fave is Ash surely?????? That's the only way he survived that eviction

Hot stuff for the Twatter generation.
CLL Dodge
13-07-2014
This year's Deana or Gina. The "outsider" female.

Looked like Jale would get that role until she was forced out of the outsider group by Toya. Then once Toya and Matthew had left Ashleigh was left as Queen Outsider.

Doesn't matter how old she is or how pleasant she is. She fills a BB role.
petewalsh_walsh
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by dialectic:
“You may keep your illusions that it was an innocent campaign to keep Aisligh in, but when it's a vote to evict your campaign is necessarily a campaign against someone else which had to have reasons which seemed scurrilous, to say the least. I for one was very uncomfortable with the effects of that campaign on here and, though you may believe the intentions were good, it came across as a hate campaign against a person who in no way deserved it. Poor Jale has to read all that stuff today. Ashleigh is now friends with Helen so tell me was it really worth it?”

sorry but i have to
strato222
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by rubyx93:
“Is this thread for real!? Ashleigh is the type of girl 'tweenies' hate! The tweenies are supporting the likes of Ash, winston and mark this year! Think ashleighs fan group is much more diverse!”

I'm a 52 year male and my vote was to get Jale off my telly because of the condescending chats and because she was part of team 'bully'.
Annsyre
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“Not a thread about anyone on here, of course, but it was a bit depressing to learn, at the end of Bit On The Psych tonight, that there'd been an organised campaign on tw*tter and f***book to vote out Jale because she was perceived as Ashieigh's nearest rival for the axe on Friday.

It was like a flashback to the bad old days of Grossie and Crab Eyes, where all opposition to the happy couple was systematically targeted, and destroyed. God help us all if the bedroom strategists who stoop to this kind of thing ever organise themselves politically. Sinister guys of a certain age and sentimental teenage girls would be an unholy alliance. Like the KKK, except everyone would be wearing pink dressing gowns.

I'll be treating anyone who speaks up for Ashleigh with suspicion from now on, certainly, but that aside, what is it about Ashleigh that's driven a section of her fanbase into a frenzied, on-line swarm state, do we think? It hasn't happened in a while.

I would say it's because middle aged men want to sleep with her, and teenage girls want to be her, but these days, it could just as easily be the other way round.

Anyway, discuss.”

As a grandmother you have let yourself down by calling HMs by childish names. And comparing BB viewers to the Klu Klux Klan is ignorant and offensive.
strato222
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“No idea, or interest really, except that this one was obviously enough of a factor for it to be mentioned on the show. Which implies it was more serious than usual. And that Ahleigh's fanbase is therefore more committed and/or insane than anything the producers have been used to in a while.”

Are you on an anti-Ashleigh campaign?
SnowStorm86
13-07-2014
Last year's brat was Gina. This year's brat is Ashleigh.

Seems brats are popular.
netcurtains
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by rubyx93:
“Is this thread for real!? Ashleigh is the type of girl 'tweenies' hate! The tweenies are supporting the likes of Ash, winston and mark this year! Think ashleighs fan group is much more diverse!”

This. Teenage girls generally don't like other teenage girls. They're more likely to be full of raging hormones and will like the likes of Ash and Winston, and Mark cos he's the safe gay funny one. They probably all hate Ashleigh!

I'm 43 and I love Ashleigh, I'd be very proud if I were her mother, she's very intelligent, articulate and self deprecating for a teenage girl. I think she's the best teenager that's ever been on BB. I'm usually immensely irritated by them!
netcurtains
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by SnowStorm86:
“Last year's brat was Gina. This year's brat is Ashleigh.

Seems brats are popular.”

Brats throw a strop when things don't go there way so Ashleigh isn't a brat in the slightest. It's just a lazy insult to hurl at someone you don't like and it's not particularly original. I can name some other HMs who have thrown strops...
Fanntastik
13-07-2014
Originally Posted by Grandmother:
“Not a thread about anyone on here, of course, but it was a bit depressing to learn, at the end of Bit On The Psych tonight, that there'd been an organised campaign on tw*tter and f***book to vote out Jale because she was perceived as Ashieigh's nearest rival for the axe on Friday.

It was like a flashback to the bad old days of Grossie and Crab Eyes, where all opposition to the happy couple was systematically targeted, and destroyed. God help us all if the bedroom strategists who stoop to this kind of thing ever organise themselves politically. Sinister guys of a certain age and sentimental teenage girls would be an unholy alliance. Like the KKK, except everyone would be wearing pink dressing gowns.

I'll be treating anyone who speaks up for Ashleigh with suspicion from now on, certainly, but that aside, what is it about Ashleigh that's driven a section of her fanbase into a frenzied, on-line swarm state, do we think? It hasn't happened in a while.

I would say it's because middle aged men want to sleep with her, and teenage girls want to be her, but these days, it could just as easily be the other way round.

Anyway, discuss.”

Are you for real? What a silly post.

Why is it that any HM you're not a fan of has to be supported by the "tweenies"? And I don't know why some viewers feel superior over the younger viewers. Their opinion is just as valid as yours.
<<
<
2 of 5
>>
>
VIEW DESKTOP SITE TOP

JOIN US HERE

  • Facebook
  • Twitter

Hearst Corporation

Hearst Corporation

DIGITAL SPY, PART OF THE HEARST UK ENTERTAINMENT NETWORK

© 2015 Hearst Magazines UK is the trading name of the National Magazine Company Ltd, 72 Broadwick Street, London, W1F 9EP. Registered in England 112955. All rights reserved.

  • Terms & Conditions
  • Privacy Policy
  • Cookie Policy
  • Complaints
  • Site Map