I think people forget that the 'tweenies' usually share the same opinion as forum members, except for BB11 when there was support for John James and Josie. But other times... supporting Freddie and Marcus in BB10, completely split between Aaron and Jay in BB12, until the next few weeks, it was mostly Jay though, supporting all the outsiders over the insiders during BB13, supporting Gina and Dexter and some even Hazel and now they are disliking the Helen, Ash lot (bar Winston) and supporting Ashleigh.

So, I think people don't realise that a lot of the time, the social media lot actually think the same as 'older' fans.

Look at Twitter and tell me if Ash is popular, he really isn't. Some of the things being said about him is that he's up Helen's behind, he's dull, he has no opinion other than Helen's and he's arrogant.

The campaign was in full swing on here as well. Sorry it depressed you.


Huh? Tactical voting isn't something we "stoop" to - it's a perfectly rational thing to do in certain circumstances. It is common practice among voters in marginal seats at election time, for example.


You'll be treating us with "suspicion"?? Suspicion of what exactly? And I've no idea what you mean by "frenzied, on-line swarm state".


Middle-aged woman here. I don't want to sleep with her or to be her. I'm just enjoying seeing her in the house more than Jale.

Overreact much?

www.bbspy.co.uk is not a good site to go on its owner is Obsessed with ashleigh and will do anything to save her without a care for anyone else its like big cult now.

but this site is not really accurate with its polls ash was 70% to go last week and didnt

Can't believe anyone is giving this silly thread the time of day.

Teenage girls are likely to vote for Winston more than anyone, from what I've seen on twitter I think it's teenage girls who seem to hate Ashleigh. That's why strong females never win, they don't appeal to the key demographic of young women who vote on the show.

There is actually a serious point of principle in this thread. Someone compared this kind of campaigning to elections, but in elections you only get one vote - for the very good reason of ensuring that the outcomes are not distorted or corrupted by the activities of special interest and pressure groups. Vote rigging is not thought to be a good thing in the world outside BB standom.

Clearly, the outcome of this eviction was distorted. If it had been run on the basis of "one fan, one vote" there is every likelihood that the result would have been different. If BB becomes infected by vote rigging, the producers may have to move against it.

Well said and didn't they get rid of Facebook voting because of this. I was glad they brought this up on BBOTS.

I have to agree, just when you thought you've seen it all

"Vote rigging" is defined as the illegal interference with the process of an election. Of course people only have one vote each in political elections, otherwise it wouldn't be a democracy. There is nothing illegal about either voting multiple times or tactical voting for a TV game show candidate, however, so what people think about vote rigging in the world outside BB stardom is irrelevant.

That's a fairly insulting conclusion, I'm not a tweenie, nor middle aged and I have no desire to sleep with her, but I'm pleased she stayed in, be better if both girls had stayed and Marlon had gone, but he slid out of that one.

Well, I like to think that I'm young at heart.

I don't/didn't support Ashleigh throughout this but I can imagine lots who do support her seriously grrrrrrrrrring at this. I have supported HM's in the past and been lumped in with the 'Tweenie Accusations' - there really is nothing more annoying. I can appreciate that there are is a wide spectrum of people voting for Ashleigh all with valid reasons. It's rarely one size fits all.

It's kind of like people saying anyone who opposed Ashleigh was jealous .......that gets me grrrrring. I think BB attracts viewers from all ages and all walks of life - we all have different expectations and differnt life experiences which influence our choices.

It's quite rare that a fan base is made up of one homogenous group.

It's lazy IMO to group supporters together under one banner to attack.

Don"t be fooled , i reckon Grandma is male and in his mid 30"s.

Couldn't have said better myself.

One of the most confusing and poorly titled threads this week.

The OP defines 'Tweenies' as older men and teenage girls.

Others go on to then answer with 'Tweenie' meaning teenage girls.

None of this makes sense as everyone is using different definitions for the word.

As voters who like her have been mentioned I am a middle-aged man and I can't stand her she is my least favourite

I never knew you were middle aged

Oh for goodness sake, someone is honestly complaining about a bit of nastiness towards a housemate? ? It happens every series, with lots of housemates. I voted jale to be evicted because she was a total flake, initially I quite liked her but her nauseating cosying up to people who had been nnasty to her was pathetic. And her ridiculous attempts to justify it by making out she is this strong independent woman makes me dislike her even more. Hopefully now she can waddle off to where she came from.

Well 35 as 70 is old 35 is around middle aged I wouldn't call myself young anymore

Well if that's 'middle aged' - you're making me feel positively geriatric

I really wouldn't hold your breath. She is articulate and is able to give a good critical analysis of what's going on. I think she may well be a BOTS regular in future series.

Memba I told ya.

You heard it here first.

"Vote rigging" is not necessarily a bad thing when it comes to Big Brother, though. You could look on it as the viewing public just playing Big Brother at its own game. After all, does anybody seriously believe that the BB bosses have not constantly rigged the show from day one to give advantage to whoever they choose to be their favourite?

Their own "vote rigging" is much more insidious and unfair than anything I have seen on the various forums and media concerning "campaigns to evict so-and-so" etc., especially for this series.

Jale was unlucky to go I suppose, but in a show that is so blatantly biased in favour of Helen's Cool Gang, the tactical vote was this time the only "fair" way to keep Ashleigh in.

Ashleigh, Chris, Christopher, Danielle and everyone else are cosying up to Helen now. Are they all nauseatingly pathetic or is it just Jale who should be singled out with this description?
Oh and that last comment makes you sound like a Helen supporter/

Well I am at the moment an Ashleigh supporter.and will be until I feel I no longer want to be a supporter ...........I do not fall into any of the categories you have mentioned fact you username would be rather apt as a username for myself. Have a great day

I didn't vote because I am sulking after Matthew went and refusing to watch LOL.

If I had voted I would have voted Marlon if he hadn't saved himself or Jale when he did. It would have been a vote to save Ashleigh not a vote to get rid of Jale.

It would have been partly because I like Ashleigh. I would like to see more of her as I think there is more to her than bitching and moaning but I think the atmosphere in the house is so oppressive it is difficult for anybody to be positive.

It would also partly have been a protest over Matthew going and Ash being saved. The house (Helen's house) were so sure Ashleigh would be next that I would have wanted to send a shock message that outside are not quite as willing to collude with Helen as inside.

My impressions may be totally wrong as everything I think is now based on what I read here as other than a teensy bit of BOT to see Jale being interviewed on eviction night I have stuck to my guns and not watched. Not sure if I would be getting much more if I did watch the heavily edited highlights to be fair.

At least I haven't had to watch Steven and Kim. Reading updates on here has been bad enough. Eeewwww!!!

I just wanted to say I reallyn liked Mathew as a housemate and it was as loss to this years BB that he went.