No.

- I can completely understand why somebody finds all of this showmance stuff repulsive, however the comments I was referring to on YT were blatantly homophobic.

I'm sure the must be a dome cam in there ,unless they thought the Mirror was good enough for a store room

If not they need to fit one asap, But i said the same with the first Stevery kiss but then on the HL show they did have a better angle.

And don't you think they'd have done all this a little bit more openly and more regularly? It is clear to anyone with more than 10 brain cells that they are trying to be discreet and not speak much about what is going on. Mark found the blind spot and Chris went over and it started from there. They kissed at 6am.... An unlikely time don't you think? An more obvious time would've been straight after lights out. They are after as much privacy as they can, not sure how long they will be discreet but that's besides the point, just think about what you spout before coming out with bile and the default. Think about it.

Also, how come the producers chose not to show the 6am 'action' under the sheets? How come they didn't include it before they woke up on last nights' show? I am sick of the showmance storyline, why can't they show this, this seems to be a genuine relationship blossoming.

Hopefully this storeroom kiss will be on the HL

I agree, the thought of Marks face going in for a kiss turns my stomach, that silly hairy face and the big black eyebrows.... no ta

Dear lucky, evolved human,

I'm still a bit homophobic myself, as in, my head tells me "who cares?" but nonetheless I am emotionally slightly more repulsed by two men snogging than a man and a woman. What am I meant to do about it? You don't get to just tell your phobias and negative emotions to go away now do you. Can I get injections or shock therapy for it?

Yours sincerely,
An inferior, stupid person.

PS: I'm a a bit sexist and a bit racist too. Only around the very fringes, and I don't want to be, but still, it's there. I mean I wouldn't let it stop me employing the best person for a job or anything, or influence who I socialised with. Perhaps I should be gassed just to be sure, for the good of all our futures. Sort of a "final solution".



Christopher and Mark don't seem like an obvious couple to me. But quite a lot of couples don't, I suppose.

What would them snogging in a private place early in the morning have to do with them not wanting airtime? Are you under the impression that the cameras that show us what's going on turn off after Midnight, or only show the bedroom?

I don't want to see K&S or M&C ... or indeed anybody else ... humping on my TV screen, but I do agree that it is strange that the supposed kissing between M&C that was shown the other night on BOTS wasn't shown on the main highlights show, when the sex between K&S was given the full 20 seconds it took

It's something we should be shown to allow us to make up our minds about it, it also adds context to anything that may happen between the two of them or how they behave during the daytime.

On the other hand, though, we didn't know that Jale and Marlon were close friends until it was well underway and was mentioned by other housemates. We rarely see the 'regular' conversations any of the HMs have, including with Helen, and we don't see much of the fun they supposedly are having.

I have no idea at what time the discreet kiss happened but Mark just had to excuse his bad breath......

Again, my post was referring to the comments on YouTube. I understand some people don't enjoy seeing it.

I know, I was just blowing it up to make a paradoxical point, nothing personal (this time ). *Kiss* (even if you're a boy)

Ahhhhhhhh sweet

Brian and Paul I think his name was (BB2)

I don't find these showmances repulsive, just pointless. Do they actually get magazine deals and make money from them? I never have any interest in housemates once the show is over, so don't know if they get these sort of deals or not.

Interesting post and the BIB is a very interesting point. There seem to be far less people 'disgusted'here which is interesting.

re you asking how consistent the attitudes are, I'm going to go with 'wildly inconsistent'.

This would actually be a very interesting topic to debate, however I suspect reasonable debate with no hysteria/ knee jerk accusation may not be be possible.

Because there's nothing to be disgusted about yet. Two possible kisses done away from the direct camera doesn't equal sex.

I personally find Christopher much better looking, but I think Mark would look much better without the beard.

I can't believe they're not bothered about showing that on highlights, yet they've shown kimbot an Steven 3 times now, once was enough.

With respect, this totally misses the points I was making (or at least trying to make) to be fair.

You hardly have to have sex (or do something that might be equal to sex) for some people to be disgusted.

I thought ANY 2 people kissing, snogging, having a romance. fauxmance/ showmance was meant to be widely condemned on here and called 'vile' 'disgusting', 'sickening' etc..?

The question/ interesting thing is not about them having sex or not, it's about the differing attitudes to these 2 as opposed to other couples, and the reasons for them.

Ignore the control freak and Kimbot, I thought the above was pretty much how it's supposed to be round here, no?

Call me cynical, but I suspect Mark would be 'FUMIIIIIIIAAAAAAAANG'* if he found out the HL show ignored his snogging sessions.

*God, if there's one single thing I loath in this show it has to be that bizarre change of direction his syllables take.

My only problem with showmances is when they take over the highlight show and everything else gets ignored. I personally didn't have a problem with Kim and Steven until this last week when they are dominating the highlights and its getting boring. I've never complained about Helen and Ash and I personally found Winston and Danielle hilarious to watch and the only problem I had with Winston and Tamera was that obviously planned date that was shown on her eviction night.

Well, that's a problem to take up with BB, or yourself if you insist on watching a show that you know loves a showmance. It certainly doesn't warrant some of the things that have been directed at Kimberly and Steven. And what if BB starts showing more of Mark and Christopher? would posters be warranted in slating them because BB decided to focus on it?

On a wider note, it truly amazes me just how much BB gets away with when it's their actions that often cause the issues that viewers rail against. Leaving aside the fact that it's BB that's pushing showmances, there's also the fact that they set out to cause a fight last week by showing the girls the bitching, or zooming in on a mark on Kimberly's arm (which I thought was a pretty low thing to do). There's plenty of other examples like this ([putting Hazel and Daley together, then having Emma playing the moralist on BOTS), yet, aside from a few people who comment on BBs hands being dirty, it seems most get totally sucked up into it.

I'm with you on that, in fact I think Christopher is quite attractive. He could model if he wasn't so geeky. He also reminds me of Nichola Hoult.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=ni...w=1024&bih=672

So how many times have these guys kissed and BB has failed to show it?.

I caught BBBOTS the other day and it showed you them clearly kissing under the covers,

Why is Kim and Steven and even Winston and Danielles undercover antics made a big deal, BB even asking leading questions about it in the diary room, yet there hasnt even been a mention of this on the mainshow??? Unless ive missed something.

Maybe they couldnt fit in what with giving Helen another 'funny' task.

"Where are you ChristopheeeeeeeerrrrrAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH?"

Ewwwwwwwww