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Old 14-07-2014, 00:23
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Old 14-07-2014, 00:41
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I thought we are supposed to sympathise with Ian at the moment? With this, I don't think I can. Poor Patrick.
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Old 14-07-2014, 04:01
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Could he not just write down ians secret or text it to Denise?
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Old 14-07-2014, 09:16
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Could he not just write down ians secret or text it to Denise?
When my dad had his stroke, his speech went because of the parts of his brain that was affected by the stroke. It also left him paralyzed down one side of his body - the right side, including his right arm/hand - so maybe Patrick had a similar stroke and is simply unable to use his hands?
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Old 14-07-2014, 09:17
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Awww Patrick
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Old 14-07-2014, 09:19
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When my dad had his stroke, his speech went because of the parts of his brain that was affected by the stroke. It also left him paralyzed down one side of his body - the right side, including his right arm/hand - so maybe Patrick had a similar stroke and is simply unable to use his hands?
Aww you made me cry.
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Old 14-07-2014, 09:20
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I thought we are supposed to sympathise with Ian at the moment? With this, I don't think I can. Poor Patrick.
Poor Patrick. Imagine not being able to speak.
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Old 14-07-2014, 09:20
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Why does that article make his stroke sound like a plot device for keeping Ian's secret...
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Old 14-07-2014, 10:18
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^ Not the DS article, I was referring to another but I can't find it now.
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Old 14-07-2014, 10:32
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Lol sorry Lizzie!
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Old 14-07-2014, 11:32
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Lol sorry Lizzie!
Don't turn it into a joke. There's nothing funny about your dad having a stroke. I know I'd have a breakdown if my dad did.
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Old 14-07-2014, 14:13
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Why does that article make his stroke sound like a plot device for keeping Ian's secret...
Because it is it's so obvious 😏
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Old 14-07-2014, 14:51
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Loathe Patrick. A man with absolutely zero work ethic. Shutting down Kim's B&B like that so he could spend his days lazily drinking, philandering, gambling, and lusting after that Denise one.
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Old 14-07-2014, 17:40
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Could he not just write down ians secret or text it to Denise?
Not very likely. When it comes to strokes and speech, it can be a part of the brain controlling LANGUAGE or SPEECH that can be affected, or both.

If a LANGUAGE area is affected then an individual can have significant difficulties with understanding other peoples' language and/or formulating their own sentences, whether it be deciding what to say, knowing what they want to say but unable to find the right words, unable to put the words into the right order, unable to use grammar, etc.

If it's SPEECH that's affected then it's the actual speech production itself i.e. Making the speech sounds correctly by synchronising air-flow, vocal cord movement, placement of lips, teeth and tongue to create the correct speech sounds to form words. If there's any facial paralysis or weakness this also affects speech production.

There can also be problems with higher-level language functions, such as memory (and recent memories are more likely to be affected/lost than older ones). An individual may also have cognitive difficulties, and may be unable to focus/concentrate for any length of time in order to pass on important information; may lose general awareness of themself or of others (including not being able to recognise people); and may lack the ability to actually initiate communication but may simply respond to those around them, so their responses will be based on what someone says to them.

(I'm a speech therapist specialising in stroke rehab by the way, and I also volunteer with Stroke Association so I know what I'm talking about! I'll be following this storyline closely out of progessional interest.)
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Old 14-07-2014, 17:41
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Not very likely. When it comes to strokes and speech, it can be a part of the brain controlling LANGUAGE or SPEECH that can be affected, or both.

If a LANGUAGE area is affected then an individual can have significant difficulties with understanding other peoples' language and/or formulating their own sentences, whether it be deciding what to say, knowing what they want to say but unable to find the right words, unable to put the words into the right order, unable to use grammar, etc.

If it's SPEECH that's affected then it's the actual speech production itself i.e. Making the speech sounds correctly by synchronising air-flow, vocal cord movement, placement of lips, teeth and tongue to create the correct speech sounds to form words. If there's any facial paralysis or weakness this also affects speech production.

There can also be problems with higher-level language functions, such as memory (and recent memories are more likely to be affected/lost than older ones). An individual may also have cognitive difficulties, and may be unable to focus/concentrate for any length of time in order to pass on important information; may lose general awareness of themself or of others (including not being able to recognise people); and may lack the ability to actually initiate communication but may simply respond to those around them, so their responses will be based on what someone says to them.

(I'm a speech therapist specialising in stroke rehab by the way, and I also volunteer with Stroke Association so I know what I'm talking about! I'll be following this storyline closely out of progessional interest.)
Wow it's great that we have an expert on the subject amongst us.
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Old 14-07-2014, 18:59
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Because it is it's so obvious 😏
I think they will do a good bit on dealing with the stroke properly (like the medical stuff with Carol) but then yeah when he's a bit better it will all come out about Ian and Denise will go MENTAL!

At least DTC is connecting plots up and involving everyone a whole lot more than the last two producers ever did. It maybe a bit sensational but it's far more exciting than the last three years.
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Old 14-07-2014, 19:13
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I think I remember reading that they consulted Stroke Association about this storyline so hopefully there'll be a realistic depiction of the long-term effects, both physical and emotional.
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