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Old 16-07-2014, 11:12
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I mean surely the forensics or whoever can work out what time Tina was attacked. And Peter was in the pub the whole time when he told Carla about the affair. And stayed there after she left to find Tina. So I don't know why the police are going to think its Peter instead of Carla. I know there's the bracelet thing but that could of easily been someone else like Tracey or Rob. Which it was of course.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:15
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Yes no one seems to pick up on the fact when Carla flounced out to 'have it out with tina', Peter was still in the backroom being lambasted by Steve, Michelle and Liz and turned up at the scene after steve & michelle so was still in the pub with liz when dumb and gobby left to go get carla. Soap police are just dire, emily could kill norris with an axe outside the cabin, be stood over his body with the axe still dripping and they'd arrest Norris for attempted suicide.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:18
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Yes no one seems to pick up on the fact when Carla flounced out to 'have it out with tina', Peter was still in the backroom being lambasted by Steve, Michelle and Liz and turned up at the scene after steve & michelle so was still in the pub with liz when dumb and gobby left to go get carla. Soap police are just dire, emily could kill norris with an axe outside the cabin, be stood over his body with the axe still dripping and they'd arrest Norris for attempted suicide.
It's ridiculous isn't it? Us DS lot would make a better detectives than the soap police!
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:18
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No. Peter confronted tina and was seen leaving by roy with cuts on his face. As far as the police are concerned, thats when they think tina was murdered. The next person known to see her was carla when she saw her body.

The police think tina was attacked by peter and then found beaten. They dont know that anyone else was there in between peter and carla because all the suspects have alibis even though rob and tracys are false.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:22
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Who spotted him going into the ginnel again? I mean surely they would of noticed Peter wasn't carrying anything like a bag, which would of held the belongings from the flat and the weapon.

Surprised the police didn't question Rob or Tracy over Tina basically leading a crusade against them running up to her death, taking photos and putting a brick through their window. David even brought it up in the middle of the church that Tina smashed their window in for selling dodgy goods, but the two officers didn't seem bothered by this.

And nobody notices how Rob is the one making a song and dance and being over dramatic over someone (as far as others are concerned) he didn't have much to do with and wouldn't of liked for trying to ruin his venture.


Sick to the back teeth of the police getting it wrong on Coronation Street, I think the writers have a problem with this profession as they must be as incompetent as possible. And Tracy seems to forget her and Rob didn't really spend the night together, and that he was hanging around the backyard acting shifty. If she does decide to selfishly cover for Rob if finding out the truth I hope she gets in trouble (although no doubt she will get off with it as usual).
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:25
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No. Peter confronted tina and was seen leaving by roy with cuts on his face. As far as the police are concerned, thats when they think tina was murdered. The next person known to see her was carla when she saw her body.

The police think tina was attacked by peter and then found beaten. They dont know that anyone else was there in between peter and carla because all the suspects have alibis even though rob and tracys are false.
But like I said I thought the forensics would know exactly what time Tina was attacked and that would get Peter off the hook as he was in the pub when it happened.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:32
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But like I said I thought the forensics would know exactly what time Tina was attacked and that would get Peter off the hook as he was in the pub when it happened.
I dont know. The way it happened was like a conveyor belt wasnt it. Peter in, peter out, rob in, rob out, carla in, carla found,

We dont know whether that happened within a hour or two hours. I dont think forensics would be that accurate to know the exact time she was pushed. If she had died they wouldve been able to get a rough idea of the time of death but that still wouldnt account for the time of the push.

They couldve looked at her bruising and internal damage to get a rough idea but even then it could have a bit of leeway.

Unless they could say she was pushed at 9 pm and peter was in the rovers from 7 onwards then he could be cleared. If they said she was pushed at 9pm and peter was in the rovers from 8:50 then its too close to say because its not accurate.

I dont think we know (or remember) the timings of when everything happened. It couldve been several hours in between each person going to the flat, or it couldve been 10 minutes.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:33
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The police think tina was attacked by peter and then found beaten. They dont know that anyone else was there in between peter and carla because all the suspects have alibis even though rob and tracys are false.
I bet that's how it's solved. There was some bizarre fuss about Tracey being all dressed up for the dodgy goods pick-up (or whatever it was - some dull deception involving Tony, and Tracy trying to get one over Rob), and then she lost the heel off her shoe. Not sure how that will come back to Rob and his whereabouts, but I bet the heel thing has something to do with it.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:41
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Im unsure about the heel, traceys lie to rob was that she had a headache so was walking out in the fresh air when her heel broke in the ginnel. I think thats a believable thing to happen so i dont think the police would question it.

What i think will happen is the heel will be found or tracy will see the broken shoe and it will bring back memories of how shifty rob was acting when she bumped into him in the ginnel. I think she will twig robs been acting off and it will be her that turns him in.

Its unlike tracy to do that but i think deidres reaction will affect her and she will end up getting rob caught. Although she would go to prison too wouldnt she for giving a false alibi? Maybe she wouldnt do that then.
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Old 16-07-2014, 11:53
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I mean surely the forensics or whoever can work out what time Tina was attacked. And Peter was in the pub the whole time when he told Carla about the affair. And stayed there after she left to find Tina. So I don't know why the police are going to think its Peter instead of Carla. I know there's the bracelet thing but that could of easily been someone else like Tracey or Rob. Which it was of course.
I doubt they've been able to be that precise about the time of the attack. Peter's conversation with Carla and rob's confrontation with Tina probably took place within less than an hour. In fact they must have done as her taxi was booked for 9.30 and the Pub was still serving when Carla charged out to go to the flat - so tina coming in and hearing Carla was pregnant, Peter being with her in the flat, going back to the Rovers and talking to Carla and Carla leaving the Pub all happened within 90 minutes (they hadn't called last orders which would be 11pm). Also, I imagine it is harder to pinpoint the time of an attack than time of death (body temperature, rigor mortis etc) and she wasn't dead.

They're still a dreadfully inept police investigation team though.
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Old 16-07-2014, 12:05
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Ooh yes, that sounds right Tt - Tracey being the one to dob in Rob. She was madly jealous of him and Tina so she only needs to say something like "Why do you care so much... come to think of it why have you been acting shifty for the last 6 weeks..." Rob conveniently breaks down and confesses, and another story comes to a swift conclusion, like the Kirsty trial.
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Old 16-07-2014, 12:06
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No. Peter confronted tina and was seen leaving by roy with cuts on his face. As far as the police are concerned, thats when they think tina was murdered. The next person known to see her was carla when she saw her body.

The police think tina was attacked by peter and then found beaten. They dont know that anyone else was there in between peter and carla because all the suspects have alibis even though rob and tracys are false.
Surely the examination of the body would prove that the only thing that beat Tina was the cobble her head landed on when she fell off the balcony
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Old 16-07-2014, 12:15
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Surely the examination of the body would prove that the only thing that beat Tina was the cobble her head landed on when she fell off the balcony
What about the pipe that smashed her head in?
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Old 16-07-2014, 13:18
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Im unsure about the heel, traceys lie to rob was that she had a headache so was walking out in the fresh air when her heel broke in the ginnel. I think thats a believable thing to happen so i dont think the police would question it.

What i think will happen is the heel will be found or tracy will see the broken shoe and it will bring back memories of how shifty rob was acting when she bumped into him in the ginnel. I think she will twig robs been acting off and it will be her that turns him in.

Its unlike tracy to do that but i think deidres reaction will affect her and she will end up getting rob caught. Although she would go to prison too wouldnt she for giving a false alibi? Maybe she wouldnt do that then.
Did Tracey not break her heel while she was walking to the van with Tony outside the lock-up though?

Might be Deirdre that clocks its Rob and Tracey doesn't believe her mum and finds out later when she starts to believe Deidre's theory that he did do it. I think Tracey would be inclined to forgive Rob if he explains that he done it to protect Tracey and himself with regards to the stolen goods though and Tracey has already killed someone and tried to justify it.
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Old 16-07-2014, 13:49
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What about the pipe that smashed her head in?
Obviously I am as inept as Wetherfield CID as I had totally forgotten how she died
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:24
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Why hasn't Tony twigged that Tracey was with him so therefore leaving Rob with no alibi? Do we just assume he wants to stay out of it? But you'd think he would at least use this info to his advantage and try blackmailing them???
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:34
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But like I said I thought the forensics would know exactly what time Tina was attacked and that would get Peter off the hook as he was in the pub when it happened.
Because she wasn't dead at the scene it would be harder to say exactly what time she was attacked. Exact times on bodies are working out by the way the body looks after death. In TV the forensic teams can always give an exact time of death (within an hour or 2) but in reality it is much harder to pinpoint an "exact" time.

So all the police know for sure is she was attacked that evening sometime after she was last seen.
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:43
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Why hasn't Tony twigged that Tracey was with him so therefore leaving Rob with no alibi? Do we just assume he wants to stay out of it? But you'd think he would at least use this info to his advantage and try blackmailing them???
Didnt deidre also kind of give them an alibi? She went into the empty house assuming they were upstairs. There was a scene where she shouted something up to them, didnt get a reply and said something to suggest she thought they had snuck off for a quickie.

Im sure she mentioned to the police that they were at home, but didnt actually tell them she hadnt seen them. She believed tracy had gone for a lie down and believed rob had gone after her.

Tony probably wouldnt say anything be ause you know how tracy is. If she goes down she will tell all about his dodgy deals.

Anyone else suprised the police searching deidres house didnt reveal the dodgy hairdryer? All the fuss they made about them you wouldve thought rob and tracy would be worried about it.
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Old 16-07-2014, 14:58
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Because she wasn't dead at the scene it would be harder to say exactly what time she was attacked. Exact times on bodies are working out by the way the body looks after death. In TV the forensic teams can always give an exact time of death (within an hour or 2) but in reality it is much harder to pinpoint an "exact" time.

So all the police know for sure is she was attacked that evening sometime after she was last seen.
Exactly that was what I was trying to say. All they know is that she was attacked sometime after 9.30 when she was seen in rovers by loads of people and before 11.00 when Leanne and Kal found her soon after Carla had stormed out of the Rovers when they were still serving. Plus Roy having seen Peter and Tina go into her flat together or did he just see Peter leave alone - I forget which. The point is the Police are working on the assumption that peter had already attacked her before he went back to the Rovers and confessed and was with people until she was found.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:26
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Tony might not know rob and Tracey are each others alibi? That said, what was his? Surely they interviewed him as he owns the flat and builders yard.

Yes I think Deardre did back up their stories.

Obce Detective Ken comes home and starts going over every detail with them Deardre and Tracey might well remember significant things.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:30
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I cant remember him having an alibi.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:37
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I cant remember him having an alibi.
The alibi for the time that Rob did actually attack her is that he was in the back room of the Rovers, first confessing to Carla and then being berated by Deardre, Liz, Michelle and Steve. But the Police don't know the exact time she was attacked so believe he did it during the time he was actually at her flat. He left her alive and well but they don't believe that.
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Old 16-07-2014, 15:57
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Was it the night tina was killed that she scratched peters face? I remember him lying to someone and saying a cat in the ginnel had attacked him.

Surely the csi team wouldve scraped tinas fingernails and found peters dna from her scratching him. Not only would that have put him in the frame for lying about a cat, but would proove they had some kind of altercation. We know it was one sided but surely it would suggest a struggle which would fit with peter pushing her.

Why hasnt the scratch been mentioned as evidence?
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Old 16-07-2014, 16:03
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Was it the night tina was killed that she scratched peters face? I remember him lying to someone and saying a cat in the ginnel had attacked him.

Surely the csi team wouldve scraped tinas fingernails and found peters dna from her scratching him. Not only would that have put him in the frame for lying about a cat, but would proove they had some kind of altercation. We know it was one sided but surely it would suggest a struggle which would fit with peter pushing her.

Why hasnt the scratch been mentioned as evidence?
It was that night yes and I think it has come up in the interviews. He's admitted that he was in her flat, that they argued and she scratched him but but that he left her alive and went back to the Pub to tell Carla about the affair before Tina could. Basically, although he lied about the scratches at the time, he's told the Police the whole truth since.
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