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'Well at least Helen's upfront ' - Can we knock this myth on the head ?
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Kabira
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Sunnydays:
“How often have I found......."..I am honest, I will say it to their faces "............equates with downright rude remarks said in the unkindest possible way.......”

I agree and they often are the ones that cannot handle the same treatment directed at them.
Vadmun
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“I don't think you actually know what a psychopath is.

The rest of your 'assessment' I also found to be severely lacking when it came to having any semblance of balance or perspective to it.

Still, I'm sure others will lap it up regardless, so it's not all bad.”

Well, actually no. A psychopath is someone completely divorced from any morality apart from their own. Who's indifferent to the suffering and pain of others and justifies their actions as being the correct and only course of action. Who has no appreciation of the world view apart from their own and is absolutely ruthless in the pursuit of their own agenda. They can be charming, charismatic, superficially popular - but at heart the centre of their universe is themselves.

Sound like anyone you know? Helen? Or are you a fan of that psycho filth too?

The part about the injunction - the legal cases brought against the vile whore did set a precedent within the legal system as to the power and scope that people can wield against the media with injunctions.

If you have the money and position and legal team you can now wield a level of silencing power hitherto only enjoyed by Royals and matters of national security.

If you'd get your head out of your a*** for two seconds and research the case the implications were catholic and potentially devastating. As anyone can potentially now silence the press and a free press is vital to our notion of democracy.

The whore changed the law.

And once they all find out what a filthy worthless sack of scum they've allowed themselves to be bullied by for ten weeks, oh the shame.

So lap that up, peace xxx
BeeBumble
25-07-2014
I loved how Helen and Bianca where talking about how upfront they were and 'how they say it to peoples faces' whilst whispering about the others in the toilet.
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by GottaBeAdored:
“It's up there with "what you see is what you get", "wears her heart on her sleeve", "just too honest for her own good" "she's real" and "tells it like it is" in the tedious BB cliches.

Most of them have been said about Helen funnily enough.”

And add another one to the list which seemed to crop up a few years ago..... "I can't help being anything other than honest, I don't know how to not be"
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
I also notice how on reality TV shows a contestant is described by saying "They have no filter" as though it's a trait to be admired or as if there is some virtue to that.

They haven't got a filter?
Yeah, well then they should get one then. Just like the rest of us are expected to.
Everyone would love the luxury of not having a 'filter', but imagine how the world would function if that were the case.

What next? "She can't help punching people in the face. You can't help but admire how upfront she is. It's just her and what she does. You just learn to accept it. It's so honest".
Alrightmate
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by BeeBumble:
“I loved how Helen and Bianca where talking about how upfront they were and 'how they say it to peoples faces' whilst whispering about the others in the toilet.”

Yes that was a magnificent clip. I don't understand why so little attention was paid to it.
AOTB
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Vadmun:
“Well, actually no. A psychopath is someone completely divorced from any morality apart from their own. Who's indifferent to the suffering and pain of others and justifies their actions as being the correct and only course of action. Who has no appreciation of the world view apart from their own and is absolutely ruthless in the pursuit of their own agenda. They can be charming, charismatic, superficially popular - but at heart the centre of their universe is themselves.

Sound like anyone you know? Helen? Or are you a fan of that psycho filth too?

The part about the injunction - the legal cases brought against the vile whore did set a precedent within the legal system as to the power and scope that people can wield against the media with injunctions.

If you have the money and position and legal team you can now wield a level of silencing power hitherto only enjoyed by Royals and matters of national security.

If you'd get your head out of your a*** for two seconds and research the case the implications were catholic and potentially devastating. As anyone can potentially now silence the press and a free press is vital to our notion of democracy.

The whore changed the law.

And once they all find out what a filthy worthless sack of scum they've allowed themselves to be bullied by for ten weeks, oh the shame.

So lap that up, peace xxx”

Ha, I can have some admiration for your response to be fair.

She is not a psychopath and I'd argue that there are several other HM that would appear to more closely fit the widely accepted definition of a psychopath far better than her.

Whilst I still disagree with your post, I can at least admire a bit of style in how you reply.

At the risk of sounding overly patronising (I don't mean to be- well not on this occasion anyway!) peace to you too dude..
Kabira
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
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She is not a psychopath and I'd argue that there are several other HM that would appear to more closely fit the widely accepted definition of a psychopath far better than her. [/b]”

Which Hm's do you mean?
Vadmun
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by AOTB:
“Ha, I can have some admiration for your response to be fair.

She is not a psychopath and I'd argue that there are several other HM that would appear to more closely fit the widely accepted definition of a psychopath far better than her.

Whilst I still disagree with your post, I can at least admire a bit of style in how you reply.

At the risk of sounding overly patronising (I don't mean to be- well not on this occasion anyway!) peace to you too dude.. ”


We can debate whether or not Helen is a psychopath until the cows come home.

That's neither here nor there, in the grand scheme.

However, the result of the super injunction case surrounding Woods, indeed were very dangerous for the concept of a "free" press or as free as it can be, all stemming from Wood's inability to keep her mouth shut in the press about her past.

Those two injunctions, the men involved are freely researchable on the internet, gave a level of gagging power which had hitherto never been seen by non Royalty or matters of National security and it is serious and it is dangerous. As that precedent can now be used by anyone enjoying an equal level of money or power.

Wholly blaming Woods is unfair, I admit that, the men involved were equally to blame, though likewise had Woods not maintained such a high media profile following Rooney it probably wouldn't have happened. Probably not definitely.

I don't hate Woods, I think she's a terribly vulnerable, self loathing and unhappy woman who deserves pity. Also you can see her palpable terror about being discovered by her housemates for what she was once they leave the house.

But as with talking to tabloids, television and radio about her escort career, she chose to go in there. Ostensibly to change people's perceptions of her, in which case she's done just that. I actually quite admired her candour before she went into the house, now I think she's pretty loathsome.
Virgil Tracy
25-07-2014
she isn't a psychopath , the correct medical terminology is "Vicious Gobshite"
eva_prior
25-07-2014
Originally Posted by Virgil Tracy:
“she isn't a psychopath , the correct medical terminology is "Vicious Gobshite"”

Without appearing to be greedy, could I have both plus 'total bitch' for pudding please.
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