https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wami...IloNrw&index=5


'I'm a very closed person' - hahahaha!

Great that Pav is calling her out on her crap and Steven is shitting himself!

"I'm a very closed person".
'Open it' makes so much more sense now.

Kimbot is seriously deluded. Or fake.

Out of all 3 newbies I'm really liking Pav ...... he really seems to have his head screwed on. be a shame if he went Friday!

Now if Pav had really been clever he'd have mentioned the fact Steven has a GF too.

In his defence though he probably doesn't know about this and hence puts the blame firmly on Kim's shoulders due to the likes of Emma Willis and BOTS being so totally biased and one sided on it.

They really should stick in Steven's GFs dad or at least show the house what he thinks of Steven and his Steven's deluded mums lies.

I like the way Pav explains himself. Calmly with no excuses or bullshit.

Agreed. The guy has potential as a HM. So far so good.

I also liked the way he doesn't beat around the bush. No faffing, straight to the point.

Id of told Pav to do one.

The cheek of the guy, their relation dosent have to be justified to him while he gets up in their face on his pathetic power trip.

Pavs sexual questions on day one rang my creep alarm bell

Do one son

It was about Kim and Steven made it about himself again.

Steven : "I have been 100% honest"

Kim a bit more vocal and less guarded in expression than I've seen

As always!

Pav seems to be almost as much of a bore as Steven and also almost as sly.

A closed person, having sex every morning with a lunkhead she barely knows,..on national TV

From his VT and first night behaviour I had zero respect for Pav. Now, I'm liking him more and more each time I see him.

Almost like a male version of Jale - before she buddied with H.

agree with that!!

Erm I think it does have to be justified when they're having sex on national television in a room full of people. They are both pathetically desperate Pav was right to call her out on her lies.

I'm glad I gave Pav a chance before I judged because he's the only newbie with his head screwed on and seems inclined to do what we want him to do. Gameplan or not it's still helping us claw back power that was taken from the public this week.

Steven: "Can I just nip in there really quickly? I really appreciate you saying that. Blaming it on Kim and confirming that it was all her fault"

No, I'm really twisting what he actually said. I'm being naughty there But how I interpreted it that's how Steven came across in that clip. Making a point about how he's received a heck of a lot of stick about the relationship with Kimberly, and it's such a relief to hear someone blame Kimberly for it all.

He really is a cowardly shit. What a catch girls.

Brilliant post

You're spot on. My thoughts were, he's just thrown his beloved 'betrothed' under a bus.

I agree he did

Good vid about Steverly which I don't know how to download but the HMs have got Steven sussed and said he will implode if Kim goes first.
It's on another thread.

What I also noted in that clip is that Kimberly appeared to be seething when Steven was talking, and was dying to say her piece.
In my opinion Kimberly appeared to be defending herself more from what Steven was saying than whatever Pav had said.

Surely Kimberly can see Steven for what he is now. It's not real love. Obviously we know that it's more like an obsession. But surely she can see for herself the narcissist he probably is from the way Steven has a tendency to protect himself rather than protect the supposed woman he purports to love.

Pav's comments were more incriminating against Kimberly, yet Steven, rather than defend Kimberly, 'the woman he loves', pretty much thanks him for placing the blame at Kimberly's feet. Just so that Steven can look innocent. That's all that seems to matter to him.
If you really loved someone you simply wouldn't do that at all.

Obviously most of us find the notion that they love each other ridiculous and are highly skeptical of this. But provided with the context put in front of us, and if we were to accept that they were supposedly in love, these wouldn't be the actions of a man in love with a woman.
I feel so stupid for even having to post a disclaimer at the bottom of my post because obviously it's bullshit to the majority of us. What I'm probably actually doing is commenting on a situation played out by actors playing characters as if it were all real