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Why Zoe should go on Friday
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jim_lyons
17-07-2014
First off, let me say that I'm not particularly bothered by who goes on Friday, but I do watch and enjoy the show - My only criteria for who goes is; what would make a more entertaining show?

For me this means more drama, more "game-playing" and more controversy - NOT more fun for the housemates. I'm not being intentionally miserable, but I don't want to see them having a great laugh and enjoying themselves - If I was in the house I would want this, but I am not. As a viewer I want to be entertained.

This brings me to Zoe and why she should be voted out. Zoe is - it would seem - a nice, fairly well-rounded individual - she will be the cause of less entertainment than the other two. She will sing (well), laugh, smile and generally add nothing to the house dynamics. She will (perhaps) further her already successful career, and probably go on to do very well in the competition. All this is not really very exciting for us.

Bianca will add a whole new level to the game; ie is it worth living with Bianca for £100,000. She will make the others work for their prize. She will test them. She will make it more entertaining.

Pav may turn out to be a schemer, he has more to gain out of this than Zoe, and he may change the dynamics if he survives on Friday. OK, he is probably all mouth and no trousers, but we don't know. We know exactly what Zoe will bring to the house - lots more cringey musical numbers and little else.

Come on guys - this show is for our entertainment. It's not about wrong and right, good versus evil, or the nature of mankind - it's a gameshow, and at its best it's a pretty entertaining one. Do the right thing and if you vote at all on friday vote for a better show for us, not a better career for Zoe.

Cheers
JanisElizabeth
17-07-2014
Personally I'm not entertained by a 31 year old woman running around screeching about f****ng people and flashing her boobs so no, I would really like it if Biannca went on Friday. I have no opinion on Zoe either way other than I fear she may turn out to be a bit of a sheep. I think Pav could be the most interesting one of the three.
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Personally I'm not entertained by a 31 year old woman running around screeching about f****ng people and flashing her boobs so no, I would really like it if Biannca went on Friday. I have no opinion on Zoe either way other than I fear she may turn out to be a bit of a sheep. I think Pav could be the most interesting one of the three.”


Don't get me wrong - I am not entertained by Bianca either - what is potentially entertaining is how the other housemates deal with her. A good story needs heroes and villains and characters - not decent singers pushing their career. Agree that Pav also has potential - I just don't need to know any more about Zoe - she is genuinely boring in this context.
danielleh
17-07-2014
Biannca's already shown her cards. That's not a euphemism. She'll either do more of the same i.e be overtly sexual, flash and bitch with Helen or just simmer down and be the vapid airhead we know her to be.

I really hope we see Biannca fade into the inevitable oblivion on Friday.
The Ambassador
17-07-2014
She can stay, but only if she promises to never sing again whilst in the bb house.
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“Biannca's already shown her cards. That's not a euphemism. She'll either do more of the same i.e be overtly sexual, flash and bitch with Helen or just simmer down and be the vapid airhead we know her to be.

I really hope we see Biannca fade into the inevitable oblivion on Friday.”

Surely she has more effect on the other housemates than Zoe though? Like her or hate her, she provokes a reaction. Pav is more likely to be in it for the game. Get rid of the one just looking for a career boost who will pretend to like everyone and nominate for lame reasons.
JanisElizabeth
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“Don't get me wrong - I am not entertained by Bianca either - what is potentially entertaining is how the other housemates deal with her. A good story needs heroes and villains and characters - not decent singers pushing their career. Agree that Pav also has potential - I just don't need to know any more about Zoe - she is genuinely boring in this context.”

I agree. I'd be quite happy if both women went on Friday and they just kept Pav as I think he needs a bit more time to show whether he has potential. If he proves to have nothing to offer, he would likely be up for eviction next week anyway
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by The Ambassador:
“She can stay, but only if she promises to never sing again whilst in the bb house.”

If she stays, this is ALL she will do.
The Ambassador
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“If she stays, this is ALL she will do.”

I know. And all of them her own compositions.
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
The pot needs stirring.

Bianca is a stirrer.

Pav is potentially a stirrer.

Zoe is a singer.

Easy?
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by The Ambassador:
“I know. And all of them her own compositions.”

Dear God. No.
gentleguy
17-07-2014
if pav looked like wisnton none none of you will be saying give him time for this and that and that he has potential, you would all be saying hes a boring boy from essex with no personality its funny how some make excuses for others while attacking others for doing the exact same lol the word double standards comes to mind. so far i find pav the most boring plain and simple and the women are far more powerfull than him its been prooving and i can tell you know if they decide to evict kimberly they will makesure it happens pav doesnt evan get a say as hes too weak.
gentleguy
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I agree. I'd be quite happy if both women went on Friday and they just kept Pav as I think he needs a bit more time to show whether he has potential. If he proves to have nothing to offer, he would likely be up for eviction next week anyway ”

oh yes lets evict all the women so we can have a house full of blokes
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by gentleguy:
“if pav looked like wisnton none none of you will be saying give him time for this and that and that he has potential, you would all be saying hes a boring boy from essex with no personality its funny how some make excuses for others while attacking others for doing the exact same lol the word double standards comes to mind. so far i find pav the most boring plain and simple and the women are far more powerfull than him its been prooving and i can tell you know if they decide to evict kimberly they will makesure it happens pav doesnt evan get a say as hes too weak.”

My views on Pav have nothing to do with how he looks. He has hardly imposed himself on the house, but there is a chance he has a game plan and a chance that this will play out in an interesting way - I just don't think this applies to Zoe. She already has a successful career on stage and cannot afford to be controversial in any way that may harm her career. She is on the show merely to raise her profile and as such, she brings nothing to the dynamic. Zoe is already a shoe-in with star-struck Mark and others and won't have to work for her place in the house. Also, I hated her "rap". Hated it so bad.
JanisElizabeth
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by gentleguy:
“oh yes lets evict all the women so we can have a house full of blokes”

I don't give a toss what sex they are. It's not the bloody Cabinet. I just don't like those two very much and prefer Pav. Not quite sure what you're confused about.
zazaya
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by jim_lyons:
“The pot needs stirring.

Bianca is a stirrer.

Pav is potentially a stirrer.

Zoe is a singer.

Easy?”

Don't underestimate Zoe, she is not going to be told what to think by Helen. Of the three, she has the wisest head on her shoulders, followed by Pav. Biannca is a pushover, a vacuous attention seeker, that is the sum of her.
patsylimerick
17-07-2014
I'm not a fan of Geordie Shore or TOWIE or any of their insidious progeny, which is part of why I fundamentally disagree with your OP. I really like the quieter, more thoughtful housemates and would dearly love to see them just interacting with each other. In the past, we did see fairly mundane conversations, relative to what we get now, and I LIKE that. It's supposed to be (or at least was supposed to be) a televisual sociological experiment. Throw some disparate characters into a claustrophobic environment, see how they muck along and throw them some challenges to test their relationships.

Now it's just another constructed reality show. The thing is, viewers like me think there are already enough constructed reality shows. That's not what we want from BB. But ratings will out, I suppose.
gentleguy
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“I don't give a toss what sex they are. It's not the bloody Cabinet. I just don't like those two very much and prefer Pav. Not quite sure what you're confused about.”

well its not gonna happen anyway only one will go anyway lol
junipaire
17-07-2014
Yeah Bianca for me, already feeling like back to square one with Helen building up her gang again, should be stripping away her friends not giving her more.

Not to mention I don't find Bianca in the least bit entertaining either.
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by zazaya:
“Don't underestimate Zoe, she is not going to be told what to think by Helen. Of the three, she has the wisest head on her shoulders, followed by Pav. Biannca is a pushover, a vacuous attention seeker, that is the sum of her.”

Well, it seems obvious she will stay so I really hope you are right. She definitely has the qualities to stand-up to Helen, but I can't see it happening - she is in there for one reason and that is to push her career - The very fact that she has some intelligence makes it far less likely that she will do anything controversial that could damage her on the outside world. I don't see her arguing, bitching, putting-her-foot-down, or anything except singing. Let's hope I'm way off.
jim_lyons
17-07-2014
And again, I stress, It's not what Bianca does that is necessarily entertaining, but how the other housemates react/are forced to react to her.
JanisElizabeth
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by gentleguy:
“well its not gonna happen anyway only one will go anyway lol”

I'm well aware of that but although I would prefer Biannca to go I wouldn't hate it if Zoe went!
Evilredzebra
17-07-2014
I don't care about any of them but Biannca is ruining the programme for me so I want her out.
Kittycat36
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by JanisElizabeth:
“Personally I'm not entertained by a 31 year old woman running around screeching about f****ng people and flashing her boobs so no, I would really like it if Biannca went on Friday. I have no opinion on Zoe either way other than I fear she may turn out to be a bit of a sheep. I think Pav could be the most interesting one of the three.”

My thoughts exactly.....
Kittycat36
17-07-2014
Originally Posted by Evilredzebra:
“I don't care about any of them but Biannca is ruining the programme for me so I want her out.”

I can not stand watching her, she is either flashing her boobs or talking with her mouth full......yuck
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