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Good points, all. I just wish people could be a more consistent in their puritan outrage.
I'm sure that my puritan outrage, such as it is, is completely consistent. I am an equal opportunities Puritan.
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Kind of redundant, then, once they've been proven?
My point was Danielle alleges she is only an underwear model - I am dubious about the claim. Kim and Steven allege they are in love - I don't believe the claim to be true. Biannca tells us she is a stripper and I do believe her. As someone else has said she has already walked the talk. |
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Good point, all. I just wish people could be a more consistent in their puritan outrage.
Having said that, the total lack of consistency and plethora of double standards you see year in year out, massively detracts from what is actually quite an entertaining forum IMO. Winston is nothing but a male version of Bianca (some might say worse) and yet he is seen as a loveable Essex (or rather Kent) cheeky chappie simpleton. You see slut shaming aplenty on here. It's embarrassing that people still feel the urge to call them 'sluts, slags sti ridden whores with ruined vaginas' etc (and again there is much worse than this on many a thread) and yet defend blokes doing pretty much the same. The most fascinating thing for me is when you see the number of female posters that do it as it is most definitely not only men. I understand why blokes do it (being one myself) but not quite sure what the mentality is when women do it- is this not akin to punching their own gender (and the steps feminism has made in the last few decades), right in the face? I'm not trying to name and shame but it's rife round these here parts. |
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What sex games did they play? Was it Lube-o? F*ckaroo?
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There are some people tha are consistant, and for me that's a different issue and fair enough- each to their own and all that.
Having said that, the total lack of consistency and plethora of double standards you see year in year out, massively detracts from what is actually quite an entertaining forum IMO. Winston is nothing but a male version of Bianca (some might say worse) and yet he is seen as a loveable Essex (or rather Kent) cheeky chappie simpleton. You see slut shaming aplenty on here. It's embarrassing that people still feel the urge to call them 'sluts, slags sti ridden whores with ruined vaginas' etc (and again there is much worse than this on many a thread) and yet defend blokes doing pretty much the same. The most fascinating thing for me is when you see the number of female posters that do it as it is most definitely not only men. I understand why blokes do it (being one myself) but not quite sure what the mentality is when women do it- is this not akin to punching their own gender (and the steps feminism has made in the last few decades), right in the face? I'm not trying to name and shame but it's rife round these here parts. I don't understand why anybody does it. It's like washing your emotional, psychosexual, neurotic dirty linen in public isn't it? |
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Yes and Steven had trouble removing the lid of the Lube tube and that's why he asked Kimbot to "Open It".
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The amazing thing is that there is any outrage at all with such behaviour for either sex on BB these days; its getting to the stage where any housemate that isn't involved in 'adult entertainment' seems quite quirky and an odd character!
![]() If you don't at least 'do a Lionel Blair' and tell people to 'suck my cock' on national TV then you're pretty much a square right? ![]() I must admit I don't think anything I see on tv esp not on BB will 'shock' me. I mean I've seen 2 girls and 1 cup and all sorts of other horrific things, and once you've stared agog at what some humans will actually do, (and your 'outrage barometer' has been obliterated), this kind of stuff isn't really that big a deal. After you've seen the abominations that the world wide web has given to the world, anything else seems mild in comparison. If it doesn't at least involve midgets, donkeys and scat then it's pretty tame in my book. This is a joke people, I'm not really a totally oddball devient- I mean where am I gonna find a donkey these days...
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The amazing thing is that there is any outrage at all with such behaviour for either sex on BB these days; its getting to the stage where any housemate that isn't involved in 'adult entertainment' seems quite quirky and an odd character!
We had years and years of glamour model type girls keeping it all on and showing noting until they left the house when they posed in the lads mags. Female HMs stripping off, or even going topless was mainly a thing in earlier BBs. There has been the occasional under-the-covers fumble throughout the history of BB - during all BBs, and particularly recently, the vast majority do not get involved. |
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My point was Danielle alleges she is only an underwear model - I am dubious about the claim. |
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See what you did there.Seems to me the atmosphere's got more prudey over the last few years, not less. These things ebb and flow like fashion. Some have said it's because we're regressing beyond pre-feminist values and voices must be raised, something must be done. Some say it's the opposite, that sexually emancipated and even aggressive women represent female empowerment. Some have said there might be a bitter menopausal living-with-cats element at play. I couldn't possibly comment. I love tits'n'ass, me. And great big willies to go with them. My issue is not with nudity. Its with vulgarity and gratuitousness. (or should that be gratuity - nah - but that too )
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Danielle works as a stripper and sex chat girl and lies about it, condemning that sort of behaviour in others, and she's a-okay.
Kimberly and Steven have sex and sex games on camera in a room full of people and they're a-okay. Biannca flashes her boobs and (shock, horror) makes crude jokes about sex and she's Satan incarnate. ![]() I'm not crazy about Biannca though, but it's because she's too loud and pushy. Nothing to do with flashing or making sexual jokes. |
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![]() If you don't at least 'do a Lionel Blair' and tell people to 'suck my cock' on national TV then you're pretty much a square right? ![]() I must admit I don't think anything I see on tv esp not on BB will 'shock' me. I mean I've seen 2 girls and 1 cup and all sorts of other horrific things, and once you've stared agog at what some humans will actually do, (and your 'outrage barometer' has been obliterated), this kind of stuff isn't really that big a deal. After you've seen the abominations that the world wide web hs given to the world, anything else seems mild in comparison. If I don't see midgets, donkeys and scat involved then it's pretty tame in my book. This is a joke people, I'm not really a totally oddball devient- I mean where am I gonna find a donkey these days... ![]() Brilliant again.That's Friday night sorted out!
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The most fascinating thing for me is when you see the number of female posters that do it as it is most definitely not only men. I understand why blokes do it (being one myself) but not quite sure what the mentality is when women do it- is this not akin to punching their own gender (and the steps feminism has made in the last few decades), right in the face? Internalised sexism due to the relentless 'cradle to grave' sexism dished out by the mainly male driven media. Sadly, similar dynamics have also created the ugly cousin called internalised racism. The last decade has seen a reverse gear change in respect of both, IMO. |
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Nudity doesn't bother me, but I guess for some people the difference between Daniel with or without clothes is that it's being done elsewhere and for people to see her, they need to search and click on links. She isn't stripping in the house and being shown on tv.
Steve and Kim in bed getting jiggy, was more cringey, than shocking. As for Bianca, she is everything she describes on the tin, so for me she isn't shocking, but a lot of people don't want to see that type of thing on an entertainment/game show. I find her constant talking over people far more annoying. Everyone has different tastes. I judge the housemates on what I see in the house, not what they do outside. Once they leave, I couldn't care less about them. |
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Seems to me the atmosphere's got more prudey over the last few years, not less. These things ebb and flow like fashion.
Some have said it's because we're regressing beyond pre-feminist values and voices must be raised, something must be done. Some say it's the opposite, that sexually emancipated and even aggressive women represent female empowerment. Some have said there might be a bitter menopausal living-with-cats element at play. I couldn't possibly comment. I love tits'n'ass, me. And great big willies to go with them. ![]() I like Biannca. She makes a refreshing change from people who talk the talk before their BB experience, but never quite walk the walk. Danielle can do whatever she likes, it's the mixed messages I dislike. First we were led to believe she was pure like virgin snow, only purer, then we have seen her in various stages of undress throughout the media. And it's clearly ok to be a webcam girl when you are fully clothed, because the boys (or girls) on the other end are not self pleasuring at all...oh no sir. ![]() Maybe there has been a bit of over compensating going on )from Danielle) in the BB house? Whatever, I'm completely confused now. At least with people like Biannca, you know where you stand (or sit for a lapdance).
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LOL The case for underwear isn't holding up well. Did she at least have socks on - perhaps that was what she was modelling?
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These days all kinds of sexual entertainment is just a click away, which is why we don't need it on mainstream tv.
Nobody is going to want panto porn when the real stuff is available online. That's why saucy shenanigans on BB is just dumb and tedious. It's about attention-seeking, not titillation, and the objection to it is not necessarily prudish, it's just a hunger for better quality "reality tv" entertainment. Like real people having real interactions for example. |
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The most fascinating thing for me is when you see the number of female posters that do it as it is most definitely not only men. I understand why blokes do it (being one myself) but not quite sure what the mentality is when women do it- is this not akin to punching their own gender (and the steps feminism has made in the last few decades), right in the face?
I'm not trying to name and shame but it's rife round these here parts. Quote:
Internalised sexism due to the relentless 'cradle to grave' sexism dished out by the mainly male driven media.
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Some have said there might be a bitter menopausal living-with-cats element at play.
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Female HMs stripping off, or even going topless was mainly a thing in earlier BBs.
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You can't change the world by blaming men.
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These days all kinds of sexual entertainment is just a click away, which is why we don't need it on mainstream tv.
Nobody is going to want panto porn when the real stuff is available online. That's why saucy shenanigans on BB is just dumb and tedious. It's about attention-seeking, not titillation, and the objection to it is not necessarily prudish, it's just a hunger for better quality "reality tv" entertainment. Like real people having real interactions for example. |
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See what you did there.Seems to me the atmosphere's got more prudey over the last few years, not less. These things ebb and flow like fashion. Some have said it's because we're regressing beyond pre-feminist values and voices must be raised, something must be done. Some say it's the opposite, that sexually emancipated and even aggressive women represent female empowerment. Some have said there might be a bitter menopausal living-with-cats element at play. I couldn't possibly comment. I love tits'n'ass, me. And great big willies to go with them. ![]() ![]() I would love to pull you on this point but my pussy needs attending to.
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I would love to pull you at this point, my pussy needs attending to.
Mrs Slocombe!
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Feminists blame men for everything, it's the default position of their sexist ideology. Notice how some try to divert every anti-Bianca thread into slagging off the males of the house
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Internalised sexism due to the relentless 'cradle to grave' sexism dished out by the mainly male driven media. Sadly, similar dynamics have also created the ugly cousin called internalised racism.
The last decade has seen a reverse gear change in respect of both, IMO. ) Genuinely interesting post and points. Personally I wouldn't blame the media entirely (although we could get into quite an in-depth debate on this), especially as in this day and age (and for years actually) the media, and not just women's media has been discussing exactly this 'when a man sleep's around he's a stud, when a woman does it, she's a slag' type of thing. It's been around for years. I personally don;t think it would be accurate to assume that many women would be so easily influenced by the male driven media these days (and I agree it is male driven). I don't think any educated and/ or informed woman can use it as an excuse in 2014 surely? I think it goes deeper than this personally (I don't know of course) but genuinely interested to hear yours, or other women's thoughts on it. I think this cartoon pretty much sums up how female BB contestants are often treated on here- http://img0.joyreactor.com/pics/post...sm-868564.jpeg |
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