Historically, sexually independent and promiscuous women have been treated as a danger to society, civilisation and indeed the very soul, for going on two thousand years now. I tend to think that kind of brainwashing goes deep, certainly deeper than a few paltry decades can dismantle.

Human beings are very conformist by nature, as such the majority will always strive to conform and likewise exclude and attack the minority who shake their certain faith in this way being the right way and the only way. I think true liberation for women will come in time, we've just got a way to go yet.

Again, genuinely interesting points.

For me, I think it can be a combination of several factors as to why some women do it, and IMO there isn't one straightforward answer.

Your post has definitely given me something additional to ponder.

*pops this thought into the pot for some further stewing in my brain*

My God! I have read your post and I can't believe how invested you are in womens rights and feminism. You must think about it day and night right? What are you, some kind of White Knight? ...I'm sure I've seen this kind of, er 'logic' somewhere before

(just kidding and this is a perfect example of how you can post on something and not obsess or be hugely deeply invested in it)

Now JP, whilst I'm merely teasing you to illustrate a point, and no offence is meant, am I right or am I right old chap?

I admit I'm not keen on Biannca for the simple and rather silly reason that she reminds me of someone that I didn't get on with in real life.

Rationally, I know she's probably nothing like my person, but the perception is there and will not be denied.

Bianca hasn't really given us any reason to think highly of her, the strip is by no means the only reason why I can't stand her.

Every time she opens her mouth a pile of vileness pours out of it.

At least Kimberly can have a decent conversation and Danielle can be entertaining (on her day)...Bianca can be neither of those.

This pretty much covers it. Not to mention the forum is being flooded with fake articles and photoshopped pics of Danielle, so half the things people are pissed about aren't even true.

Another very interesting post BB Girl, and totally agree with this one too.

What are your thoughts then on women who may call women sluts slags whores etc if you don't mind me asking? What about those who seem look more harshly on promiscuous women than promiscuous men.
Why do you think some (and I do emphasise the some) might do this?

Do you not think this is just as damaging (if not more so) to the progression of equability, and indeed feminist ideals, than when men do it? It almost seems like cutting ones nose of to spite the face as it were.

No obligation of course to answer, (and the question is for any female posters too) but I'd genuinely be interested to hear your thoughts.

The several factors is taken as read. My further lay-person thoughts to frazzle your brain:

Starting with Darwin's theory of survival of the fittest. On that premise we all try to secure advantage relative to others for ourself and our offspring in order to ensure our gene-pool survives. So effectively that is the basic 'meaning' of life to which we are subconsciously always striving towards. I think this goes a long way to explaining most humans intrinsic need to be loved/popular etc.

If a female can 'curry favour' with males ( in a mainly male dominated world) she is NATURALLY going to do it, so that she secures advantage for herself and off-spring in order to be 'fitter' than others, hence improve her and off-springs chances of survival.

You're not illustrating any point you're only trying to act superior with your posting style. Day and night no that would be you. I think about it when I hear it that's it , who's got the time to think about these things all the time. Like i've said do not paint all guys with the same brush many guys hate guys who are players and such or who are to filthy mouthed , it's not as rare as you seem to think.

Chill dude. It was a joke.

When you stop acting superior then I will. Don't act as if it's rare for a guy to not agree with some things other guys do.

No, she's not lied about it and doesn't strip. I watched the bit in the Webcam Girls: At Your Service documentary that she was in and she didn't do anything that she said she didn't inside the house when telling the other housemates about it.

I have never ever acted like 'it's rare for a guy to not agree with some things that other guys do'. (whatever that happens to be/ mean). Not once. You assume far too much here and actually don't know my thoughts on this.

As for the superior bit, I don't think of myself as any better than anyone else. Perhaps you're just feeling a bit inferior and the problem lies with you? Who knows huh?

Hmm. Food for thought and don't get angry, I know the internet can be a 'serious business' and all that.

As soon as I said "jealous" I cringed myself, but I left it in because it might be true in some cases.

I have said negative things about other females in the past and got so angry when I have been labelled as jealous as all I have done is point out character traits that I do not like.

I think once you start calling someone names because of how they have behaved sexually that there may well be an element of jealousy in the judgement from certain people.

Some people are genuinely disgusted by people who are overtly sexual, and I say each to their own, but when there are a million threads calling female HMs whores and none doing the same about the males, then that irks me.

The level of disgust aimed at a prostitute against that aimed at a client of a prostitute is completely disproportionate - why is that?

I'm the same, I don't think I've ever had a fave in all my years watching BB, I just have some HMs I can tolerate watching more than others

He's not entitled

I know that guys like that do exist and I love the fact they do, a lot are on this forum and many females too.

I'm the same as you, I have an issue with people not being able to state what they dislike about a female HM without mentioning their sexual behaviour.

Read some of your own posts back then. Oh enough of the assumptions about me , you do a lot of self projecting. If anyone feels inferior it's you.

This post excites me and saddens me at the same time

Brilliant points.

I've always said I couldn't care less what hm's did prior to entering the house, I judge them on their personality in the house so forum members constant beating on about the past is having no influence whatsoever on my judgment of hm's!!

Sexual content in Big Brother is nothing new & I don't get why forum members get so hung up about it! The only thing I have 'objected' to seeing is the Steven & Kimberly stuff & that is purely because it is them two & I find it really creepy. Bianca flashing last night is far less than BB have shown before even in the early days! Remember the girl who ran naked around the garden mowing the lawn? Remember Kinga? Bianca's performance was nothing compared to them!

To those members who dislike sexual content on BB, I say switch off or switch over to something else, BB is an adult show & always has been & you can easily find a lot worse than BB show all across British TV Channels regularly. Appropriate warnings are usual given in advance, you cannot say you weren't warned!

Well sexual behaviour of female and male housemates can be mentioned i'd say. It's more about what words you use to talk about it isn't it ?

I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings. The Interwebsz can be a rough place at times.

Now let's all play nicely and get back on topic.

See, that's a more logical reason for disliking someone she's a trigger for you

Like when you are thinking up baby names and your partner says the name of someone who has wronged you in the past, there's no way you will use that name for your own child because it dredges up bad memories

Isnt it more Sex talk than sex? From reading the forum most of the comments made by certain HM's come directed from a 900 channel. All that's missing is the cheap poundland stockings and phone. Other BB's around the EU have rampant sex but in the case of BBUK it seems its just there for the Daily Star titillation you know things are low when they are almost demanding a live feed for that very issue. We had 3 years of outrageous headlines remember? the Sex Sauna. the sex Den. the lesbian threesomes.

They finally get HM's who basically talk dirty show some boobage and get headlines.
Expressing sexuality is fine its when its all being done in a very cheap manner the aim being get some headlines its just not needed.

I agree. Big Brother's known for its bad language, sexual antics, arguments and baring that much flesh that it leaves very little or nothing to the imagination.

No i've been on this site and forum long enough i'm not hurt , but that other post of yours did seem condescending. Even if that wasn't your intention. But ok back on topic. No worries.

I also watched the webcam girls, and Danielle definitely lied about it to Ashleigh and Christopher, she made out to them that she was on it to talk about a friend that did it, not about her.