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Am I the only person who likes Steven?
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edna_ming
18-07-2014
I don't consider Steven particularly controlling. I think he's just insecure and needs a lot of reassurance. He seems terrified to be hurt and made to look a fool so is a tad paranoid. Kim must be a nightmare for an insecure guy as she gives so little away. She says she loves him but it doesn't come across and it makes him overly clingy.

I actually think Steven is a nice guy. He is nice to everyone, he tries really hard to do the right thing and he genuinely wants to be a good person. If he knew he was regarded as controlling, I'm sure he would work on himself to change that.

I've read countless books on narcissism and I don't think he fits the profile.

Does anyone agree or am I alone?
zelda fan
18-07-2014
I think you are alone.
Jennyuk
18-07-2014
Are you a relative of his ? OP
Colbert Bump
18-07-2014
I enjoy watching his desperation in trying not to get evicted every week.
elleellie
18-07-2014
I think you are alone, judging from favourite housemate polls, not even his family votes for him.
Scarlett Berry
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I don't consider Steven particularly controlling. I think he's just insecure and needs a lot of reassurance. He seems terrified to be hurt and made to look a fool so is a tad paranoid. Kim must be a nightmare for an insecure guy as she gives so little away. She says she loves him but it doesn't come across and it makes him overly clingy.

I actually think Steven is a nice guy. He is nice to everyone, he tries really hard to do the right thing and he genuinely wants to be a good person. If he knew he was regarded as controlling, I'm sure he would work on himself to change that.

I've read countless books on narcissism and I don't think he fits the profile.

Does anyone agree or am I alone? ”


Why Hardly light reading
Pitman
18-07-2014
what's nice about him, what has he done that's nice?

I know he tells everyone he is a really nice guy, frequently and gets pretty outraged when everyone doesn't agree
JesuLeChop
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I don't consider Steven particularly controlling. I think he's just insecure and needs a lot of reassurance. He seems terrified to be hurt and made to look a fool so is a tad paranoid. Kim must be a nightmare for an insecure guy as she gives so little away. She says she loves him but it doesn't come across and it makes him overly clingy.

I actually think Steven is a nice guy. He is nice to everyone, he tries really hard to do the right thing and he genuinely wants to be a good person. If he knew he was regarded as controlling, I'm sure he would work on himself to change that.

I've read countless books on narcissism and I don't think he fits the profile.

Does anyone agree or am I alone? ”

A quick Google brings up this ...
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“At the core of extreme narcissism is egotistical preoccupation with self, personal preferences, aspirations, needs, success, and how he/she is perceived by others.”

All we hear is him talking about himself, his aspirations, his business success, being a millionaire, travelling the world etc

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“Extreme narcissists tend to be persons who move towards eventually cutting others off and becoming emotionally isolated.”

He's already banned Kim from ever being alone with her ex ever again and he's only known her a few weeks.

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“Narcissism, in lay terms, basically means that a person is totally absorbed in self. The extreme narcissist is the center of his own universe.”

Kim's upset, what's his primary concern? How it makes HIM look! He makes no attempt to comfort her and actually seems agitated that (in his mind) she's making him look bad

Quote:
“No matter how socially skilled an extreme narcissist is, he has a major attachment dysfunction”

Telling someone you love them after a week of knowing them?

Quote:
“The extreme narcissist is frozen in childhood.”

Say no more
bbcrzy
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by edna_ming:
“I don't consider Steven particularly controlling.
Does anyone agree or am I alone? ”

i think its possible you just may not have met a steven, many of us who dislike him have.

he's controlling and manipulative of everyone in house, During that judgement task Steven was the loudest and constantly was trying to take control and tell the others what HE THINKS and that they should go with HIS ANSWER.

The aggressive trying to get everyone to raise their hands for Chris, when it was CLEARLY himself was an attempt to confuse.

He doesnt ever seem to have a real conversation with people, its more like I think this, I think that...what do you think? okay well heres where you are wrong and i'll tell you why.

He was the first to Shitstir with helen and danielle that first week and is too cowardly to face the music, he ran to go outside when caught at it.

my only question is why kimberley is standing for this treatment. She heard the chants to get steven out, she needs to separate from him and "hang out" with the new girls.
Oracles_eye
18-07-2014
Just looking at your post count says it all "666" how very apt, he's a disgusting slime based lifeform..
Koll
18-07-2014
We actually found one
Karen_Annanina
18-07-2014
"Kim's upset, what's his primary concern? How it makes HIM look! He makes no attempt to comfort her and actually seems agitated that (in his mind) she's making him look bad" (quote from JesuLeChop above).

Yes, exactly! He went on and on about how it was making him look. That really shocked and upset me, and to make it even worse, he finished by checking himself out in the mirror! This man is one of the most perfect examples of narcissism I have ever seen. Loathsome, utterly loathsome. He makes my flesh creep.
cazziekay
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“i think its possible you just may not have met a steven, many of us who dislike him have.

he's controlling and manipulative of everyone in house, During that judgement task Steven was the loudest and constantly was trying to take control and tell the others what HE THINKS and that they should go with HIS ANSWER.

The aggressive trying to get everyone to raise their hands for Chris, when it was CLEARLY himself was an attempt to confuse.

He doesnt ever seem to have a real conversation with people, its more like I think this, I think that...what do you think? okay well heres where you are wrong and i'll tell you why.

He was the first to Shitstir with helen and danielle that first week and is too cowardly to face the music, he ran to go outside when caught at it.

my only question is why kimberley is standing for this treatment. She heard the chants to get steven out, she needs to separate from him and "hang out" with the new girls.”

I agree. Nothing is his fault anything negative has to be the result of someone elses actions unless it's a positive then he will claim all the credit.

As for Kim she basically has met her match imo.... she thought she could play him to get her through the show, plus he was accepted by the 'cool gang' and she wasn't in the beginning as they ddn't like her, he's also rich too ...or so she thinks and finally she hasn't been a 'real' friend to Danielle & Ashleigh so she's burnt her bridges and is now stuck with Steveo until one of them gets evicted.

They deserve each other imo. She is only showing emotion now to try and garner sympathy as the newbies don't like her so now she's going for the 'poor me...victim' card. Too little too late me thinks.
pope_tart
18-07-2014
at the time of reading this thread for the first time, the OP's post count was set at 666


I think that's all we need to know eh?
LIZALYNN
18-07-2014
Liam on BBBOTS said he thought Steven was actually very insecure. I agree with that. The fact that Steven likes to boast about the money he has made could mean that he uses his success and wealth as a crutch and in the house he doesn't have that.
I think Steven is worried Kimberly is only interested in him for his money and there are times when her face lights up when he talks about his wealth. Maybe there is an element of truth in why he is so paranoid.
magicmelody
18-07-2014
Nah, you're not the only one on here. I saw another one the other day who listed all the good qualities she sees in him. She was deadly serious as well.
muggins14
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by magicmelody:
“Nah, you're not the only one on here. I saw another one the other day who listed all the good qualities she sees in him. She was deadly serious as well. ”

I made a post the other day that probably looked like I saw good qualities in him, when it was really about what I thought the other HMs saw in him (or thought they saw in him), hope you aren't meaning that
magicmelody
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I made a post the other day that probably looked like I saw good qualities in him, when it was really about what I thought the other HMs saw in him (or thought they saw in him), hope you aren't meaning that ”

No, it wasn't you.
Sunnydays
18-07-2014
He is just too much like someone I know, like this.........at first you think he is charming, has a ready smile, willing to please........look, how wonderful he is with his wife and family........but in private everything has to be his way, or else he goes into 'victim' or poor me mode........in time others get to know his true nature, and keep away.......and the once outgoing and friendly wife and children turn into cowed messes......

The man I know also had a glib tongue, fast talker, twisted and turned if he was caught out in a lie, blamed everyone else but himself, although it was clearly his fault.......and like another FM said.......would hit out and then blame the person he hit for 'making me do it to you'..........and yet, there are always those who thinks the sun shines out of their backsides.......
humbug333
18-07-2014
Steven is insecure? Yes, his ropes are definitely loose ,about to fall off the wagon of life
Jo March
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by magicmelody:
“Nah, you're not the only one on here. I saw another one the other day who listed all the good qualities she sees in him. She was deadly serious as well. ”

A blank page,then?
basia
18-07-2014
Originally Posted by LIZALYNN:
“Liam on BBBOTS said he thought Steven was actually very insecure. I agree with that.”

I didn't see BOTS, but I agree too. Regardless of his on-screen 'romance' (which I think is contrived, and can't buy into), I think some of the language used to describe him is overly sensational, and without evidence.

It's enough that he's a selfish plonker.
sheils1
18-07-2014
Well op he isnt the worst person in the house, i used to like him but just find him a bit boring. He hasnt been as nasty as some of them in there too.
Evilredzebra
18-07-2014
Hello Steven's mummy and welcome to the forum.
PercyBysshe
18-07-2014
Everyone likes Stevo - they are just pretending that they don't.

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