The concept of the logo is not horrible but the execution is terrible. I'm sure he's made that logo himself. If he's paid for it, he needs to ask for his money back!
Steven's multi million pound company website written by a 5 year old
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I cant believe what I see 
Steven is 23 years old yet he cant put together a company website properly
Steven is 23 years old yet he cant put together a company website properly
As much as it wouldn't surprise me if it was his website & company, I fail to find where it says it is his or his families. At Companies House it doesn't state it is his as far as I can see, in fact the company name states c/o LESLIE WOOLFSON & CO. Am I missing something? Either way the website is a disaster. Having designed tons of websites myself, the first thing you do is check, double check & triple check your grammar. Even if you have it designed for you, your designer should check & double check & then ask you to check it yourself. Any normal person would check it anyway before completing payment. I would say unbelievable....but then again this is Steven & his family we are talking about!!
Originally Posted by atko:
“As much as it wouldn't surprise me if it was his website & company, I fail to find where it says it is his or his families. At Companies House it doesn't state it is his as far as I can see, in fact the company name states c/o LESLIE WOOLFSON & CO. Am I missing something? Either way the website is a disaster. Having designed tons of websites myself, the first thing you do is check, double check & triple check your grammar. Even if you have it designed for you, your designer should check & double check & then ask you to check it yourself. Any normal person would check it anyway before completing payment. I would say unbelievable....but then again this is Steven & his family we are talking about!!”
“As much as it wouldn't surprise me if it was his website & company, I fail to find where it says it is his or his families. At Companies House it doesn't state it is his as far as I can see, in fact the company name states c/o LESLIE WOOLFSON & CO. Am I missing something? Either way the website is a disaster. Having designed tons of websites myself, the first thing you do is check, double check & triple check your grammar. Even if you have it designed for you, your designer should check & double check & then ask you to check it yourself. Any normal person would check it anyway before completing payment. I would say unbelievable....but then again this is Steven & his family we are talking about!!”
Unless you do it yourself to save money on outsourcing?
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“Unless you do it yourself to save money on outsourcing?”
“Unless you do it yourself to save money on outsourcing?”
That's what I say though, you check it over and over again until it's right!
Originally Posted by atko:
“As much as it wouldn't surprise me if it was his website & company, I fail to find where it says it is his or his families. At Companies House it doesn't state it is his as far as I can see, in fact the company name states c/o LESLIE WOOLFSON & CO. Am I missing something? Either way the website is a disaster. Having designed tons of websites myself, the first thing you do is check, double check & triple check your grammar. Even if you have it designed for you, your designer should check & double check & then ask you to check it yourself. Any normal person would check it anyway before completing payment. I would say unbelievable....but then again this is Steven & his family we are talking about!!”
“As much as it wouldn't surprise me if it was his website & company, I fail to find where it says it is his or his families. At Companies House it doesn't state it is his as far as I can see, in fact the company name states c/o LESLIE WOOLFSON & CO. Am I missing something? Either way the website is a disaster. Having designed tons of websites myself, the first thing you do is check, double check & triple check your grammar. Even if you have it designed for you, your designer should check & double check & then ask you to check it yourself. Any normal person would check it anyway before completing payment. I would say unbelievable....but then again this is Steven & his family we are talking about!!”
He is listed as a director of Shading Specialists Ltd and the website address is www.shadingspecialists.co.uk
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“To be fair on Steven (God knows why I would be...) if his company is mainly a business-to-business specialist to the decorating/building trade, that's a totally typical website.
B-2-B websites do not use the conventions of retail sites, because it's essentially only a portal for another company to get their stock brochure. I know many multi-billion pound wholesalers in this country with similar websites.”
“To be fair on Steven (God knows why I would be...) if his company is mainly a business-to-business specialist to the decorating/building trade, that's a totally typical website.
B-2-B websites do not use the conventions of retail sites, because it's essentially only a portal for another company to get their stock brochure. I know many multi-billion pound wholesalers in this country with similar websites.”
It's not B-2-B. And I can't say I've ever encountered a B-2-B website that looks like that (but, then, I work in something of a technological field). What I certainly haven't seen is a B-2-B website which only has "contact us" information rather than a way for customers to log in and place orders online. If it were B-2-B you'd expect to be able to see what products they have available and to place orders online.
Let me provide an example. http://www.lambaplc.com/
Note that you can browse through what they've got for sale, and at the top right there's a "login" button, from where you can place orders.
And that's not an example of a company that sells particularly good or expensive products.
Originally Posted by Prof_Matt:
“He is listed as a director of Shading Specialists Ltd and the website address is www.shadingspecialists.co.uk”
“He is listed as a director of Shading Specialists Ltd and the website address is www.shadingspecialists.co.uk”
Okay, it's not visible on mine so I guess you have to pay for that info. If not then maybe it's because I don't meet Companies House System Requirements & therefore can't see much relevant information.
Originally Posted by atko:
“That's what I say though, you check it over and over again until it's right!”
“That's what I say though, you check it over and over again until it's right!”
You or I would. Steven though is never wrong and/or is a bit slapdash.
Originally Posted by Prof_Matt:
“He is listed as a director of Shading Specialists Ltd and the website address is www.shadingspecialists.co.uk”
“He is listed as a director of Shading Specialists Ltd and the website address is www.shadingspecialists.co.uk”
He shouldnt be a director he clearly cant put together a website nevermind being a director of a company
"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later"
Lol! This is the most traffic he has ever had.
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later"
Lol! This is the most traffic he has ever had.
Originally Posted by strictmachine:
“"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later"
Lol! This is the most traffic he has ever had.”
“"Bandwidth Limit Exceeded
The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to the site owner reaching his/her bandwidth limit. Please try again later"
Lol! This is the most traffic he has ever had.”
That's actually genuinely amusing.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“It's not B-2-B. And I can't say I've ever encountered a B-2-B website that looks like that (but, then, I work in something of a technological field). What I certainly haven't seen is a B-2-B website which only has "contact us" information rather than a way for customers to log in and place orders online. If it were B-2-B you'd expect to be able to see what products they have available and to place orders online.
Let me provide an example. http://www.lambaplc.com/
Note that you can browse through what they've got for sale, and at the top right there's a "login" button, from where you can place orders.
And that's not an example of a company that sells particularly good or expensive products.”
“It's not B-2-B. And I can't say I've ever encountered a B-2-B website that looks like that (but, then, I work in something of a technological field). What I certainly haven't seen is a B-2-B website which only has "contact us" information rather than a way for customers to log in and place orders online. If it were B-2-B you'd expect to be able to see what products they have available and to place orders online.
Let me provide an example. http://www.lambaplc.com/
Note that you can browse through what they've got for sale, and at the top right there's a "login" button, from where you can place orders.
And that's not an example of a company that sells particularly good or expensive products.”
I only quickly flicked through the website but the way I read it you don't actually purchase the products from his company. You purchase them from the manufacturers & his company fit them for you as far as I could tell so you wouldn't expect an ECommerce site there.
If his website has crashed due to bandwith issues surely this means a) he has a low limit I.e. not much traffic and b) his presence on BB is damaging his business as now people can't access it online.
Oh dear. Shame.
Oh dear. Shame.
Originally Posted by trollface:
“It's not B-2-B. And I can't say I've ever encountered a B-2-B website that looks like that (but, then, I work in something of a technological field). What I certainly haven't seen is a B-2-B website which only has "contact us" information rather than a way for customers to log in and place orders online. If it were B-2-B you'd expect to be able to see what products they have available and to place orders online.
Let me provide an example. http://www.lambaplc.com/
Note that you can browse through what they've got for sale, and at the top right there's a "login" button, from where you can place orders.
And that's not an example of a company that sells particularly good or expensive products.”
“It's not B-2-B. And I can't say I've ever encountered a B-2-B website that looks like that (but, then, I work in something of a technological field). What I certainly haven't seen is a B-2-B website which only has "contact us" information rather than a way for customers to log in and place orders online. If it were B-2-B you'd expect to be able to see what products they have available and to place orders online.
Let me provide an example. http://www.lambaplc.com/
Note that you can browse through what they've got for sale, and at the top right there's a "login" button, from where you can place orders.
And that's not an example of a company that sells particularly good or expensive products.”
This is one of the UK's largest wholesale distributor of excess cosmetics and toiletries:
http://www.pricecheck.uk.com/
It's a contact-free wormhole!
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“If his website has crashed due to bandwith issues surely this means a) he has a low limit I.e. not much traffic and b) his presence on BB is damaging his business as now people can't access it online.
Oh dear. Shame.”
“If his website has crashed due to bandwith issues surely this means a) he has a low limit I.e. not much traffic and b) his presence on BB is damaging his business as now people can't access it online.
Oh dear. Shame.”
It means he is using shared hosting or possibly free hosting. Most hosting these days provide Unlimited Bandwidth although even they have restrictions unless you purchase your own dedicated server package which gives you full control then. Judging by the state of the website I would think it is using free web space given to him by his ISP, lol!
Originally Posted by atko:
“It means he is using shared hosting or possibly free hosting. Most hosting these days provide Unlimited Bandwidth although even they have restrictions unless you purchase your own dedicated server package which gives you full control then. Judging by the state of the website I would think it is using free web space given to him by his ISP, lol!”
“It means he is using shared hosting or possibly free hosting. Most hosting these days provide Unlimited Bandwidth although even they have restrictions unless you purchase your own dedicated server package which gives you full control then. Judging by the state of the website I would think it is using free web space given to him by his ISP, lol!
”
So do you think that'll be it for the month or day? My knowledge around this is limited! Any website I worked on was for a company.
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“This is one of the UK's largest wholesale distributor of excess cosmetics and toiletries:
http://www.pricecheck.uk.com/
It's a contact-free wormhole!”
“This is one of the UK's largest wholesale distributor of excess cosmetics and toiletries:
http://www.pricecheck.uk.com/
It's a contact-free wormhole!”
Yeah but that looks terrible too.
In 2014 there is really no excuse (especially when they are relatively straightforward to do) to have such a poor looking, poorly designed antiquated looking website. It's not just lacking functionality but there is little to no thought as to the aesthetics either.
I totally appreciate that certain B2B sites it doesn't massively matter (although the majority of B2B stuff is a step change better than this one) but for any external consumer clicking on it or even prospective new client regardless whether business or consumer, it still gives a negative impression,
People can go on the internet themselves and design their own personal website and make it look better than that. If they are not bothered as a company about appearances or getting good PR or marketing value out of things then that is their call, but it still looks amateurish.
Originally Posted by MC_Satan:
“So do you think that'll be it for the month or day? My knowledge around this is limited! Any website I worked on was for a company.”
“So do you think that'll be it for the month or day? My knowledge around this is limited! Any website I worked on was for a company.”
Usually a hosting company will give you so much bandwidth a month. When that is used up then your website is effectively down until the next month, lol! Unless you pay extra to upgrade the bandwidth!!
Originally Posted by Pootmatoot:
“This is one of the UK's largest wholesale distributor of excess cosmetics and toiletries:
http://www.pricecheck.uk.com/
It's a contact-free wormhole!”
“This is one of the UK's largest wholesale distributor of excess cosmetics and toiletries:
http://www.pricecheck.uk.com/
It's a contact-free wormhole!”
Fair enough. You will note, however, how much better that site is than Steven's.
Originally Posted by atko:
“Usually a hosting company will give you so much bandwidth a month. When that is used up then your website is effectively down until the next month, lol! Unless you pay extra to upgrade the bandwidth!!”
“Usually a hosting company will give you so much bandwidth a month. When that is used up then your website is effectively down until the next month, lol! Unless you pay extra to upgrade the bandwidth!!
”
Thanks. Is that not quite a weakness? If someone had a spite at you could they not just hammer F5 until your allowance is used up? As I say last time I did web design stuff was during my placement at Uni, about 2003, I used Dreamweaver to author it. Is that still being used? It's easy and you can get better results than that thing Steven has.
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