So we found out last night that Kim was first choice............but she left the house

Ashleigh was 2nd choice,,yet it seemed to have changed by eviction time.

The girl that has talked about wanting to leave for a month and by all accounts has asked housemates to evict her if given the chance.she hates it in there.

I can only assume that the producers were not prepared to let go of her voting revenue in future evictions and prob the final.Its all about the money.Ashleigh should be horizontal in her dressing gown in a hotel by now.Danielle should be still in the house

I am guessing once they knew Bianca was going.Pav and Zoe were then told what to do

Don't be silly.

I'll guess without reading your previous posts that they are all anti-Ashleigh.

Zoe said on last night's show that they had "locked in" their decision earlier in the day, so Biannca must have been lying. As far as I know, the three said they wanted to evict Kim, but were told she was ill, so decided to evict Danielle instead.

Zoe & Pav like Ashleigh so I'm guessing it was Bianca that was influencing their decision to evict her, not the producers. With Bianca gone, they could do what they wanted.

Bianca wanted to evict Ashleigh but Zoe didn't.

Or maybe it was Zoe lying, it would make more sense that way because as far as I can see there was no reason for Biannca to lie.

whats silly?we found out Kim was first choice(we believe that) why not believe Ashleigh was 2nd choice then?

Ashleigh was Bianca's choice but she got the boot

And where did you hear that from? As far as I'm aware, it was only Bianca that said they agreed on KIm - the same Bianca who said in the same interview that they then agreed on Ashleigh. at the start of BOTS they showed a clip from the house where Zoe and Pav both say they agreed their choice earlier in the day then told BB. At no point do they say they initially chose Kimberly (or Ashleigh for that matter), or that they changed their mind.

I wouldn't rely on what Bianca says, she barely seemed to know what was going on whenever they discussed who they'd evict

Firstly there is the point why was Kimberly taken out and made immune from eviction? then how come Emma just happened to have on a tartan dress and they just happened to get Dexter on the show last night? yea right. Zoe said herself that they had decided in the diary room earlier and they didn't exactly discuss anything after Bianca went so go and figure.

Agreed, particularly given the claims came from the same source. We find ourselves in the frankly ridiculous situation where we're expected to believe Bianca when she says that they agreed on Kimberly, but not to believe her when she says they then agreed on Ashleigh. Doesn't fit the pro-Ashleigh/anti-Kimberly narrative I guess.

So it seems Biannca was telling the truth about Kim but at the same time we can't believe lying Biannca about Ashleigh


Maybe she was telling the truth about both or lying about both.,

If she is telling the truth and BB fixed it so it wasn't Kim they they could have fixed it so it wasn't Ashleigh either

Didn't she say, at one point, she'd go with whoever the other two decided?

It's weird as to how it happened, hopefully tonight's show clears it up a bit.

Zoe definitely said that they had to give their decision in the diary room earlier in the day. It does seem true, as they hardly said a word to each other in their 30 seconds to discuss their choice on the live show. Then Biannca says Ashleigh was their next choice, which muddied the waters. We can't be certain as to what happened and how it happened just yet.

Even if the producers did step in to save Ashleigh, which I highly doubt by the way, it would make for a change given the treatment she's been given by them in the past.

It is obvious they tried to save Kim not Ashleigh. Bianca was the only one out of the three that really wants Ashleigh to go the other two liked her so once Bianca left they changed there mind simple.

Emma lied too, her little clip about rehearsing 10 eviction scripts when Kimbo was already out of the house at that point, Dexter drafted in etc

It all stinks.

Yes she did, but they had to give their final decision to BB earlier in the day so I doubt she would forget what decisions had been made, no doubt though that the producers will have a word in her ear and she will change her story soon enough.

It's either acceptable or not for BB to fix evictions. To start justifying one fix while condemning the other on the basis one has had a hard time of it in there is just wrong, IMO.

There was me thinking Biannca was telling porkies because she would be face to face with Danielle later and didn't want to own up.

This is the truthful and not fake Biannca with fake weave, fake boobs, fake teeth who wouldn't know what was truth is.

What? So scatty Bianca held the sway over the other two, and little Pav and Zoe were bullied into choosing Ashleigh who they both liked?

I didn't say it was acceptable. I said it would make a change for producers to act in a way that benefits Ashleigh, given all of the stuff they've done in the past to disadvantage her.

I've said it on here, I wholly believe that if the three had agreed upon evicting Kimberly then she should have been evicted, regardless of whether or not she was ill, regardless of whether or not she was in the house.

Maybe that is why they decided to get rid of her before the decision was made that did seem very least minute

Well we will never know the truth of it but I dont think that it is beyond the realms of possibility that BB told Pav and Zoe who they should evict earlier in the day once they got a feel that Biannca was going.The whole thing was rather strange tbh, and far too convenient.The point is that the way it all transpired and the producers handling of it just leaves it open to claim's of fix.Nothing would surprise me any more with regard to the degeneration of this show.

Ok, I accept you didn't say it was acceptable, although you seemed to be offering justification for it. And to say Ashleigh's had it hard is a subjective thing to say. she's actually one of the favourites based on what BB have done to her and shown us. I don't think many people take this into account when banging on about the 'bad edits' she gets.