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Old 19-07-2014, 16:48
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The OP is asking whether someone with a particular worldview and ethical stance would take a job that strongly conflicts with their beliefs. It has nothing to do with whether people like their work or not.
What OP doesn't understand or is choosing to overlook is our beliefs and ethical stance may very well change over time as do our jobs, fun fact as a youngster i hated school and even in university i found some lectures a real pain, having grown up i realize i was wrong and now appreciate what opportunities i was given.. People change maybe Danielle was promisuous in the past and now her views have changed as she developed as a person.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:49
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I was thinking about this. If you really are a deeply moral person in this fine capitalist democracy of ours, you're pretty much restricted to working for charities I'd say.
Really? I develop software for a living. Please explain to me my lack of morality.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:50
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you haven't answered at all , you just said how some of your catholic mates didn't approve of it .

she believes in God , I don't see how her job is going against those beliefs .
Her beliefs about being sweet innocent and lady like. It just doesn't fit with her job.

Not her belief in GOD.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:51
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What OP doesn't understand or is choosing to overlook is our beliefs and ethical stance may very well change over time as do our jobs, fun fact as a youngster i hated school and even in university i found some lextures a real pain, having grown up i realize i was wrong and now appreciate what opportunities i was given.. People change maybe Danielle was promisuous in the past and now her views are changed as she developed as a person.
But she still does the job ?
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:54
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She is obsessed in her quest to portray herself a certain way, have you noticed, her accent changes when she mentions being "classy & ladylike"..... hilarious
I know of people who are one way around friends and entirely different aroud family, my cousin has a strong boltonian accent whenever she's irate yet has a comepletely different proffesional persona, some people are just different around certain groups of people, nothing really wrong in that imo.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:56
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I know of people who are one way around friends and entirely different aroud family, my cousin has a strong boltonian accent whenever she's irate yet has a comepletely different proffesional persona, some people are just different around certain groups of people, nothing really wrong in that imo.
Perhaps not, but if your cousin started to berate and condemn others for speaking with a boltonian accent, she would be a bloody hypocrite.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:57
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But she still does the job ?
No the pictures we have seen may have been months or years ago, i thought Nuts magazine was not in syndication anymore. As far as I'm aware Danielle Models and also is a part time or perhaps full time non nude webcam model.
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Old 19-07-2014, 16:58
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Perhaps not, but if your cousin started to berate and condemn others for speaking with a boltonian accent, she would be a bloody hypocrite.
This i agree with, there have been a few instances in that house where Danielle hasn't been consistent, same thing i think for pretty much every housemate be it Helen or Mark.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:00
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So I see we've reverted to the usual bash the glamour model stuff, now she's come clean about it?
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:00
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Her beliefs about being sweet innocent and lady like. It just doesn't fit with her job.

Not her belief in GOD.
Rubbish unless you have a hot line to God and he told you so. Jesus was not judgemental about sex workers so what makes you think God would be ?
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:01
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Her beliefs about being sweet innocent and lady like. It just doesn't fit with her job.

Not her belief in GOD.
of course it does , glamor models adopt all sorts of roles , go back to the 40's and 50's and there's loads of glamor work which is very much 'sweet and innocent' .

as a human being she is of course prone to not meeting her own standards (as are we all) , and she's obviously disappointed that she swears so much when angry .

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Old 19-07-2014, 17:01
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This i agree with, there have been a few instances in that house where Danielle hasn't been consistent, same thing i think for pretty much every housemate be it Helen or Mark.
A few?!
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:01
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I know of people who are one way around friends and entirely different aroud family, my cousin has a strong boltonian accent whenever she's irate yet has a comepletely different proffesional persona, some people are just different around certain groups of people, nothing really wrong in that imo.
Not comparable at all. DAnielle stands in on judgement, hope your cuz doesn't
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:02
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Really? I develop software for a living. Please explain to me my lack of morality.
I can't. I don't know any of the details of those who profit from the use of that software, how they profit, whom they profit from, what else they're involved in. Without such specifics I am clearly speaking in big picture terms only, which was perhaps illustrated by the question in the subsequent part of my post which you haven't quoted.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:02
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Sorry but i can't buy that.

Would a Vegan work in a butchers ? Or an anti capitalist work for a bank ? or an Environmentalist work for a logging firm or oil company?

If you have strong "morals" or "beliefs" you wouldn't do a job that goes totally against them.

Would you ?
People do it everyday in real life. Guess you dont have much experience in the world.

My only question about danielle is WHY? is she stupid, does she not have any real education other then "finishing school"? If a person doesnt like their job, or feels it contradicts their morals and they have Money, They reeducate to get another job.

I would have asked Danielle why not another Career choice? Why? especially at her current age. at barely 18 I think she was marketable, surely she understands shes not anymore.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:03
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I don't know why this thread is even necessary when Danielle herself has admitted that she was playing it up a bit.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:04
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So I see we've reverted to the usual bash the glamour model stuff, now she's come clean about it?
Exactly you could not make it up.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:05
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Exactly you could not make it up.
Make what up exactly.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:06
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Are vegans born vegans? So let's say a housemate worked at a fast food place and ate ham burgers as well as serving them every day of their life, a few months later decides it's wrong after learning how animals are slaughtered and their views change, does this now make someone a hypocrite for deciding to become a vegan after having ate meat in the past?

So Danielle may well be religious now maybe she wasn't always that way, maybe she felt glamour modeling was a good way to go and saw the ugly side of the industry and now only wants to do none nudes and her beliefs have changed as she grew up? Does this make her a hypocrite? No it makes her human.

Although i do concede some things she did in the house were hypocrital, like cursing after telling others it was disgusting to curse or belittling others for talking about sexually explicit activities then doing the very same thing a week later (talking about oral).

I don't think anyone can or has the right to challenge her views if that's what she believes now then that's what she believes, us agreeing with her or not won't change the fact she is or isn't religous.
It was hardly that long ago.

She was still working on BlueBird TV up until Sep 2013, tweeting that she was "wearing her sexy tartan skirt" and asking all the "sexy boys" to "phone in and hear her naughty secrets".

Some of the Nuts/Zoo shoots were in mid-late 2013.


Besides, she's already admitted on BOTS that the innocent girl act was just part of her (failed) gameplan to play the underdog.

The times where she slipped up was when the act slipped.
It's impossible to keep an act going 24/7 without bits of the real personality slipping through.

It's probably time for us all(?) to just accept it was an act, and that she was a great/fascinating housemate, who got ripped off (as did her supporters) by one of the worst twists in BB history.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:07
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She is obsessed in her quest to portray herself a certain way, have you noticed, her accent changes when she mentions being "classy & ladylike"..... hilarious
I'd love to know which finishing school taught her how to speak so eloquently:

"If she starts wi' me, um gonnae go froo 'ur like a tonnae bricks, so a will!" - So, 'The Gorbals Finishing School for Fine Young Ladies', evidently.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:14
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Lol no, a whole bunch of times but i guess it's much more difficult to live in a house under scrutiny and always be 100% consistent since we have clips, tweets and Tivo to refer to on every situation.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:16
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Rubbish unless you have a hot line to God and he told you so. Jesus was not judgemental about sex workers so what makes you think God would be ?
Very true, although as an agnostic, it matters not to me what she does as a living or whether it fits her beliefs. Gotta admit though, I'd love to be a fly on the wall when she's trying to explain it to her priest
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:17
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What I am finding strange about all this is how judgemental some people are, I thought as a Christian in GD I was considered judgemental but gosh some here just out judge me by a mile !
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:22
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I can't. I don't know any of the details of those who profit from the use of that software, how they profit, whom they profit from, what else they're involved in. Without such specifics I am clearly speaking in big picture terms only, which was perhaps illustrated by the question in the subsequent part of my post which you haven't quoted.
OK, well I hope you'll understand if I don't want to post my full CV here, but for the sake of discussion, let's pick one at random. I worked for a company that wrote customer management and billing systems for utility companies. They licensed this software to utility companies who would use it to capture details of phone calls/correspondence with their customers, record meter reading details received from the readers, calculate how much the customers owed for the services used and send out a bill for the amount owed. They were not a charity, and they were not Nestle or Shell or Unilever. Please let me know if you need any more specifics.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:26
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It was hardly that long ago.

She was still working on BlueBird TV up until Sep 2013, tweeting that she was "wearing her sexy tartan skirt" and asking all the "sexy boys" to "phone in and hear her naughty secrets".

Some of the Nuts/Zoo shoots were in mid-late 2013.


Besides, she's already admitted on BOTS that the innocent girl act was just part of her (failed) gameplan to play the underdog.

The times where she slipped up was when the act slipped.
It's impossible to keep an act going 24/7 without bits of the real personality slipping through.

It's probably time for us all(?) to just accept it was an act, and that she was a great/fascinating housemate, who got ripped off (as did her supporters) by one of the worst twists in BB history.
So from shoots and webcam work done in 2013 to july 2014 you think she can't have seen the bad side of the industry and maybe her views have changed since then? My views on the world/wars over seas/the government have changed dramatically in the space of a year, infact so have my personal views on religion. I can't see why danielle needs to be judged on work she did a year ago but i do concede she did say she enhanced a certain side of her character to get by in the house..

Luisa said something about Helen being an escort may have been down to having a bad upbringing or bad decisions made in her younger days, by that same token i don't know what got Danielle in to modelling, whether she had a tough upbringing or not or even why she chose to do glamour modelling at any stage in her life, what i do know is believes herself to be a devout catholic and her views and her personal relationship with her god isn't something that can be disproven based on a few risque images taken up to atleast a year ago.
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