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Old 19-07-2014, 17:29
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So from shoots and webcam work done in 2013 to july 2014 you think she can't have seen the bad side of the industry and maybe her views have changed since then? My views on the world/wars over seas/the government have changed dramatically in the space of a year, infact so have my personal views on religion. I can't see why danielle needs to be judged on work she did a year ago but i do concede she did say it enhanced a certain side of her character to get by in the house..

Luisa said something about Helen being an escort may have been down to having a bad upbringing or bad decisions made in her younger days, by that same token i don't know what got Danielle in to modeling, whether she had a tough upbringing or not or even why she chose to do glamour modelling at any stage in her life, what i do know is believes herself to be a devout catholic and her views and her personal relationship with her god isn't something that can be disproven based on a few risque images taken up to atleast a year ago.
She's still a webcam girl and she's already admitted that the devout catholic girl thing was an act.

Also note that I'm not judging her. I've got nothing against her or that line of work.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:33
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It was hardly that long ago.

She was still working on BlueBird TV up until Sep 2013, tweeting that she was "wearing her sexy tartan skirt" and asking all the "sexy boys" to "phone in and hear her naughty secrets".

Some of the Nuts/Zoo shoots were in mid-late 2013.


Besides, she's already admitted on BOTS that the innocent girl act was just part of her (failed) gameplan to play the underdog.

The times where she slipped up was when the act slipped.
It's impossible to keep an act going 24/7 without bits of the real personality slipping through.

It's probably time for us all(?) to just accept it was an act, and that she was a great/fascinating housemate, who got ripped off (as did her supporters) by one of the worst twists in BB history.
BIB used to work in a newsagent the Nuts/Zoo mags were quite tame compared to the top shelf mags and where put in the mens selection. I remember some of the excuses (when we really did not need one or want to hear one) for buying the top shelf mag.

I liked Danielle she was abit loopy. But that was quite entertaining.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:34
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She's still a webcam girl and she's already admitted that the devout catholic girl thing was an act.

Also note that I'm not judging her. I've got nothing against her or that line of work.
A non nude webcam girl who gives guys her company and doesn't do anything sexual, also what she said was she played it up a little not that the whole catholic thing was an act ( some believe she was coerced some don't) I for one won't pick a side she did what she did on a game show if she says she has a real strong belief in her religion that's really all that matters.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:35
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how did she go against her beliefs ?.
She works in the sex industry, which is something she claims to despise. She strips for money and rips off lonely, desperate men. Unless she's a Satanist, I'd say that about covers it.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:39
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A non nude webcam girl who gives guys her company and doesn't do anything sexual, also what she said was she played it up a little not that the whole catholic thing was an act ( some believe she was coerced some don't) I for one won't pick a side she did what she did on a game show if she says she has a real strong belief in her religion that's really all that matters.
You've seen this, right?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...-to-housemates
http://img171.imagevenue.com/galshow...9995905_1087lo

She played it up a lot, imo.

But hey, if you want to believe that she's "a classy old-fashioned devout catholic virgin", then that's your prerogative.

I just see her as a great/fantastic/entertaining housemate who got well & truly ripped off.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:40
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Sorry but i can't buy that.

Would a Vegan work in a butchers ? Or an anti capitalist work for a bank ? or an Environmentalist work for a logging firm or oil company?

If you have strong "morals" or "beliefs" you wouldn't do a job that goes totally against them.

Would you ?
Why does she have to apologise to anyone particularly to you. If you were watching BOTS you would have seen her agree she had made some mistakes. Time to leave her alone methinks.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:44
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Why does she have to apologise to anyone particularly to you. If you were watching BOTS you would have seen her agree she had made some mistakes. Time to leave her alone methinks.
Don't think anyone is asking Danielle to apologise. She has been well and truly outed for the lies she told, moreover as for leaving her alone, well I don't personally know her, but I do feel free, however to comment on her bhaviour on the DS bb forum
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:49
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Rubbish unless you have a hot line to God and he told you so. Jesus was not judgemental about sex workers so what makes you think God would be ?
bwaahahahah jesus wasnt judgemental about sex workers LOL? omg i'm laughing so hard. Yes, if you read the Bible jesus did Judge.

telling someone they are WRONG is making a judgement.

Calling a person a sinner is Based on a judgement.

I love it when people try to warp Christianity to fit their agenda.

BTW that verse JUDGE NOT, let ye be judged .... is written specifically TO the pharisees of the time period, it has NO RELEVANCE to how most people use the quote.

in multiple areas there are verses TELLING us to judge, TELLING us to try to help people follow the rules.

you know, the rules.... the rules like Dont lie, dont kill, dont be a whore
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:49
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It was hardly that long ago.

She was still working on BlueBird TV up until Sep 2013, tweeting that she was "wearing her sexy tartan skirt" and asking all the "sexy boys" to "phone in and hear her naughty secrets".

Some of the Nuts/Zoo shoots were in mid-late 2013.


Besides, she's already admitted on BOTS that the innocent girl act was just part of her (failed) gameplan to play the underdog.

The times where she slipped up was when the act slipped.
It's impossible to keep an act going 24/7 without bits of the real personality slipping through.

It's probably time for us all(?) to just accept it was an act, and that she was a great/fascinating housemate, who got ripped off (as did her supporters) by one of the worst twists in BB history.
I completely agree with you. I thought she was a phoney for the most part in the first couple of days. As I think most people did.

Doesn't mean that I think that she's a bad person or horrible though.

Part of Danielle's appeal for me was that she was so crap at playing the game that I believe that reality couldn't prevent itself from slipping through. So we got to see the essence of the real her despite the fact she was trying to prevent it.

A mess of contradictions, but I think we saw who she was because she found difficulty hiding it.

When housemates were saying things like she isn't the same person in the house as she is outside of the house, seriously what do they expect her to do? Go up to one of the cameras and ask the viewers what they want her to do?
They may know what work she does outside of the house, but how do they know what she's like as a person outside of the house? They don't know.
She is quite probably quite close to how she came across. Knowing someone's job doesn't mean that you know what that person is actually like, or what they should be like.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:50
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Are vegans born vegans? So let's say a housemate worked at a fast food place and ate ham burgers as well as serving them every day of their life, a few months later decides it's wrong after learning how animals are slaughtered and their views change, does this now make someone a hypocrite for deciding to become a vegan after having ate meat in the past?

So Danielle may well be religious now maybe she wasn't always that way, maybe she felt glamour modeling was a good way to go and saw the ugly side of the industry and now only wants to do none nudes and her beliefs have changed as she grew up? Does this make her a hypocrite? No it makes her human.

Although i do concede some things she did in the house were hypocrital, like cursing after telling others it was disgusting to curse or belittling others for talking about sexually explicit activities then doing the very same thing a week later (talking about oral).

I don't think anyone can or has the right to challenge her views if that's what she believes now then that's what she believes, us agreeing with her or not won't change the fact she is or isn't religous.
If that vegan gave up meat but then still worked at McDonalds then yes they are a hypocrite, Danielle rushes out of the room at the mere even mention of sex but poses topless for men to masturbate to!! (Yet if you talked about that kind of thing with her she'd have got upset, so you can't talk about it but you can do it.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:51
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Don't think anyone is asking Danielle to apologise. She has been well and truly outed for the lies she told, moreover as for leaving her alone, well I don't personally know her, but I do feel free, however to comment on her bhaviour on the DS bb forum
The title of this thread is :"Danielle: its just a job. no sorry."
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:51
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You've seen this right?
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/tv/big-br...-to-housemates
http://img171.imagevenue.com/galshow...9995905_1087lo

She played it up a lot, imo.

But hey, if you want to believe that she's "a classy old-fashioned devout catholic virgin", then that's your prerogative.
Firstly yes i have seen this, every poster seems to drop this as their trump card like they're some sort of detective in a mystery novel, so lets make this super clear for you, those webcam images were screenshots from when? Last month? Last year? Maybe when Danielle was 19? Any ideas? Okay, also was this taken during her employment with Blue bird tv? Was this taken as a private session with her significant other? Was she a sober? Drunk? Know anything other than the same links and Daily Star (the source of all reputable information) site links?

Know enough on whether she was a devout Catholic all her life or if she had a near death experience or perhaps a traumatic incident in her life recently which turned her towards religion? I think you will find a few webcam screen shots and implied or even topless glamour shoots in the past does not disprove that Danielle may well have developed a deeper understanding for her religion after having bad experiences in the modelling industry.. It's your prerogative to be narrow minded and as judgemental as you want but no amount of topless screen shots taken from a few years ago prove conclusively that Danielle is not who she says she is now.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:52
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Why does she have to apologise to anyone particularly to you. If you were watching BOTS you would have seen her agree she had made some mistakes. Time to leave her alone methinks.
I don't think so. Over the centuries, the Catholic church hasn't been shy of dishing out punishment to non-believers; its policy on contraception, for example, has claimed more lives in Africa than the holocaust. To what extent are we expected to be tolerant of someone like Danielle, when tolerance isn't something she believes in?
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:53
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The title of this thread is :"Danielle: its just a job. no sorry."
Well the no sorry bit, I took to be, the OP not believing her, not asking her to apologise for being a little liar
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:55
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Rubbish unless you have a hot line to God and he told you so. Jesus was not judgemental about sex workers so what makes you think God would be ?
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i don't understand you sorry.

lets go back to the start.

I find it confusing why someone would claim to be a prude but work in the sex industry. I don't care if she's a glamour model or full on porn star or a nun. This isn't about sexism or religion. Its about her confusing personality. How many guests on bbots said "who are you Danielle"

I think she tried to play a game but it didn't work, or she's a hypocrite or she doesn't know who she is herself.
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Old 19-07-2014, 17:58
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bwaahahahah jesus wasnt judgemental about sex workers LOL? omg i'm laughing so hard. Yes, if you read the Bible jesus did Judge.

telling someone they are WRONG is making a judgement.

Calling a person a sinner is Based on a judgement.

I love it when people try to warp Christianity to fit their agenda.

BTW that verse JUDGE NOT, let ye be judged .... is written specifically TO the pharisees of the time period, it has NO RELEVANCE to how most people use the quote.

in multiple areas there are verses TELLING us to judge, TELLING us to try to help people follow the rules.

you know, the rules.... the rules like Dont lie, dont kill, dont be a whore
Jesus spoke out against a number of things which are listed as sins in the Bible. However you are forgetting how Jesus broke a number of conventions while engaged in his ministry. For example when speaking to the Samaritan woman at the well. According to The International Standard Bible Encyclopaedia, for Jews “conversation with a woman in a public place was particularly scandalous.”

Can I also just point out to other FM's in this thread that Danielle does not work in the sex industry.
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:01
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If that vegan gave up meat but then still worked at McDonalds then yes they are a hypocrite, Danielle rushes out of the room at the mere even mention of sex but poses topless for men to masturbate to!! (Yet if you talked about that kind of thing with her she'd have got upset, so you can't talk about it but you can do it.
Agreed except what if Danielle had views on religion but not to the extent she does now, what if she had done some glamour shoots realized she was 'sinning' and thus changed her line of work to non nude webcam modelling? Is it possible she was forced in to an industry she didn't agree with and once realizing this made a change in employment? Also some would argue a job is a job so a vegan working at Mickie D's is not being hypocritical if they don't eat the meat themselves. Some vegans probably wear make up that has been tested on animals, some may wear leather shoes/jackets.. Infact all users judging Danielle may well not agree with the killing of animals for sport or for fashion but still have leather bags/jackets so does that make all of you women hypocrites?
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:05
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I don't think so. Over the centuries, the Catholic church hasn't been shy of dishing out punishment to non-believers; its policy on contraception, for example, has claimed more lives in Africa than the holocaust. To what extent are we expected to be tolerant of someone like Danielle, when tolerance isn't something she believes in?
So you're saying every Christian/Muslim on here is a hypocrite if thet were all for same sex marriages? You can't put that on Danielle much the same way that some priests molested young boys and girls yet we don't say every Christian is of that nature.
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:06
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Agreed except what if Danielle had views on religion but not to the extent she does now, what if she had done some glamour shoots realized she was 'sinning' and thus changed her line of work to non nude webcam modelling? Is it possible she was forced in to an industry she didn't agree with and once realizing this made a change in employment? Also some would argue a job is a job so a vegan working at Mickie D's is not being hypocritical if they don't eat the meat themselves. Some vegans probably wear make up that has been tested on animals, some may wear leather shoes/jackets.. Infact all users judging Danielle may well not agree with the killing of animals for sport or for fashion but still have leather bags/jackets so does that make all of you women hypocrites?
"All of you women"
I am a vegan, and i don't care if i was down to my last penny i wouldn't work there or in an abbatoir etc,
If she did become born again, there are other jobs she could go outside the sex industry
I wouldn't like to work in it and im not even religious.
i think people are making excuses, and bending over backwards for her rather than actually admitting she is (or was) a liar and a hypocrite.
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:07
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Firstly yes i have seen this, every poster seems to drop this as their trump card like they're some sort of detective in a mystery novel, so lets make this super clear for you, those webcam images were screenshots from when? Last month? Last year? Maybe when Danielle was 19? Any ideas? Okay, also was this taken during her employment with Blue bird tv? Was this taken as a private session with her significant other? Was she a sober? Drunk? Know anything other than the same links and Daily Star (the source of all reputable information) site links?

Know enough on whether she was a devout Catholic all her life or if she had a near death experience or perhaps a traumatic incident in her life recently which turned her towards religion? I think you will find a few webcam screen shots and implied or even topless glamour shoots in the past does not disprove that Danielle may well have developed a deeper understanding for her religion after having bad experiences in the modelling industry.. It's your prerogative to be narrow minded and as judgemental as you want but no amount of topless screen shots taken from a few years ago prove conclusively that Danielle is not who she says she is now.
Me.... Judgemental and narrow-minded?

I'm just basing an opinion on the evidence presented, all of which is quite recent. The evidence is heavily stacked against her... and there's heaps and heaps of it.

I accept that it was just part of her act, and I actually liked her and am sad that she's gone.

But if she's a devout catholic virgin then I'm the Archangel Gabriel.
That's my opinion.
If someone can convince me otherwise, then be my guest. I'm all ears (i.e. open-minded) :--)
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:07
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i don't understand you sorry.

lets go back to the start.

I find it confusing why someone would claim to be a prude but work in the sex industry. I don't care if she's a glamour model or full on porn star or a nun. This isn't about sexism or religion. Its about her confusing personality. How many guests on bbots said "who are you Danielle"

I think she tried to play a game but it didn't work, or she's a hypocrite or she doesn't know who she is herself.
why would a shy person become an actor ? happens all the time .

Danielle never said she was prudish about all of sex , she just said she didn't like loads of crude sex talk which was going on and she didn't believe in sex before marriage , she was basically an 'old-fashioned' girl .

I don't know why people have to insist that there's like 2 states of interest in sex : full on hardcore vs. nothing , there's plenty inbetween and plenty of variety and contradiction even in each individual .

and there's a bit of hypocrisy in many of us too , most people would say they're against adultery , but a lot of those people will have done it too , it's called being human .
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:07
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Agreed except what if Danielle had views on religion but not to the extent she does now, what if she had done some glamour shoots realized she was 'sinning' and thus changed her line of work to non nude webcam modelling? Is it possible she was forced in to an industry she didn't agree with and once realizing this made a change in employment? Also some would argue a job is a job so a vegan working at Mickie D's is not being hypocritical if they don't eat the meat themselves. Some vegans probably wear make up that has been tested on animals, some may wear leather shoes/jackets.. Infact all users judging Danielle may well not agree with the killing of animals for sport or for fashion but still have leather bags/jackets so does that make all of you women hypocrites?
Ah please, enough with the tough background angle, besides if we are to believe the lady that is Dabielle, isn't she from an upper middle class background with a finishing school education.

No I suspect Danielle is a money mad & saw the sex industry as a way to make a lucrative living..now trying to ply her trade as a virgin. Hysterically funny.

I will say though, she's got guts or a hard neck, she's not exactly the physical type one would imagine a glamour model to be.
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:08
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i don't understand you sorry.

lets go back to the start.

I find it confusing why someone would claim to be a prude but work in the sex industry. I don't care if she's a glamour model or full on porn star or a nun. This isn't about sexism or religion. Its about her confusing personality. How many guests on bbots said "who are you Danielle"

I think she tried to play a game but it didn't work, or she's a hypocrite or she doesn't know who she is herself.
This is the issue, people on last nights show telling Danielle who she is based on what they think she is. Is it not possible she wasn't a prude All of her life and maybe after a few bad experiences with men or in her line of work she changed her views? Maybe Danielle knows exactly who she is and how deeply she believes in her religion without needing to justify it to a bunch of random people on a reality show for glamour shoots she did atleast a year ago.
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:09
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I think Danielle was just such a hypocrite and is full of total BS.

Also, as an aside, how is she model? I don't think she's at all pretty and I don't think she has an 'interesting' face. I just don't get it!

Don't even get me started on those bloody eyelashes!!!
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Old 19-07-2014, 18:11
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"All of you women"
I am a vegan, and i don't care if i was down to my last penny i wouldn't work there or in an abbatoir etc,
If she did become born again, there are other jobs she could go outside the sex industry
I wouldn't like to work in it and im not even religious.
i think people are making excuses, and bending things for her rather than actually admitting she is (or was) a liar and a hypocrite.
As a vegan have you ever bought make up tested on animals or have a leather handbag ?
Also her working as a non nude webcam model is not the same as being in the sex industry.
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