A great point as i was about to mention it being the month if Ramadhan i know Muslims who have had sex out of wedlock and even drink and indulge in other activities Islam may prohibit, i guess a point worth making while obvious is there are degrees when it comes to religious beliefs although i guess it could be argued Danielle is different for having made a point of saying she had strong beliefs while others like Kimberly have not made such a statement.

Kimberly didnt keep banging on about it though, and making it her thing, and using it as a trademark, Lots of people are religious without having to shove their beliefs down others throats.
Good for Kimberly for not feeling she had to use the church as a prop.

Excellent!

How do you know she doesn't believe in tolerance? That's a bit of a leap old egg. It's not wrong to say you are uncomfortable with something. As for the Catholic Church, although I concede she is a Catholic and they have an awful historical record - they are not to blame for the problem with contraception in Africa by the way that's nonsense I don't want to get into it now but that is cultural problem - not all Christians are Catholics and we are entitled to our opinion.

I think it means that people who are judgemental must expect others to judge them. This applies to DS as much as it does in the house. The more judgemental you are, the more likely others will judge you on this forum as well. We all have to take our chances and think about what we post.

Read the Catholic catechism on chastity. Or the sixth commandment. Or the 7th deadly sin "lust".

As a catholic so strict she doesn't agree with gay marriage, a career where you disrobe with a view to men masturbating about you is blatantly outside catholic doctrine. Laughably so.

So she's either a bigot hiding behind doctrine. Or a phoney who exaggerated her Catholicism. Or a hypocrite who cherry picks the bits of her religion that serve her.

The best thing to do is go by the Bible. Things like the catechism are later inventions by the Catholic Church.

Brilliantly put

Kimberly didn.t go round screeching fk off and saying she's upset about people swearing and talking about sex. Danielle on the otherhand swore more than even the men in the house, has called others slags on her twitter pages, says girls don't have to dress like sluts to get on in life, and wants to be a role model for girls and women.

On the webcam docu she says her virginity is the 'golden nugget' to get more money.....not the pure nugget to share with her husband as ordered by the church.

As Helen asked her........words to the effect.....'so everyone is a slag but you?'

It's her condeming and name-calling others that gets people annoyed because she's doing the same things herself and lying about it.

She is all three things.

What difference does that make? if the judgement is that Danielle owes someone any sort of apology for not living up to her standards, either that applies to EVERYONE with a religious belief, or people are just being bitchy, don't like Danielle, and have decided her religion is a more convenient excuse than explaining why.

I don't particularly like her, though I got a good laugh out of her and Dexter teaming up to fool everyone. I do think the majority of the bile aimed at her is pure laziness, though.

On the webcam docu she also says she doesn't like to brag about being a virgin, cudda fooled me.

Do you ever feel you're like banging your head against a brick wall trying to get some people (not specifically this user) to understand?

What are you talking about ? she hasn't committed adultery .

(she hasn't murdered anyone either )


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It would help if people made their case without using things out of context, like the Helen example. Danielle said something, Steven overheard it and repeated it to Helen, but not word for word. Helen then turned his misquote into something even more extreme than what was said, and confronted Danielle with it. Her not reacting well to Helen screaming that in her face isn't really supporting the case that she's a hypocrite or delusional or in any other way a flawed person.

As I already stated, it's laziness. People want to hate her, and instead of making a logical argument to do it, they're making a lazy one that falls apart under scrutiny.

My post makes absolute every difference, like i said Kim wasnt going on about church and preaching at everyone and acting like a nun, that to answer the original question is why no one is going on at her for going to church but being in play boy-because she doesn't ram the church in people's faces and act like its sinful to enjoy sex.

I know, when she was stumbling she even mentioned a toy car. I was huh, wtf are you doing with a toy car. That girl's a fraud and a dumb one at that.

Good post.

She didn't do that. She said she didn't like things and didn't want to participate in them. Much like the Helen example, the other hm's took it upon themselves to be insulted by that, rather than just acknowledge she doesn't like the same things they do. This is no different than when there is an alcoholic in the house who no longer drinks. They won't take part of the alcohol, and sometimes remove themselves from the room. And sometimes, we get a total **** like Caroline who thinks the alcoholic is just being moody or preachy, and uses that to justify stealing from them.

In this scenario, some of the other hm's are taking Caroline's role. Danielle is different, Danielle disagrees with some things they do, therefore, they are justified to twist her words, mischaracterize her behavior, and treat her like shit for it.

Well, that is what I feel, and feel i witnessed, i cant really express it anymore, or im repeating myself.
Also i didnt watch bb with Caroline in so i can not comment.

Thanks

Sure. But it's a bit much to say you're 'revolted' and 'f***ing disgusted' by whatever, as Danielle repeatedly did.


I don't know if we, as Christians, are entitled to our opinions. I grew up in a Christian household, and watching someone like Danielle on television forces me to the somewhat uncomfortable conclusion that the whole routine may just be a load of utter bollocks.

You can have strong beliefs and still struggle with complying with the "rules" not everyone is perfect or anyway near it.


She showed no sign of any sort of problem with homosexuals apart from a statement about not believing in gay marriage, something even some homosexuals don't agree with either. So calling her a bigot is at best unkind. We all cherry pick because none of the holy books are instruction books, we have to interpret what they mean to us.

She's the one who has laid down the moral gauntlet, no one else. That's why there are no threads calling Biannca out for being a hypocrite, because she isn't. Nobody cares that Biannca took her clothes off and no one really cares that Danielle does, just that she pretends to be something she clearly isn't.

And there you have it. Nail...head

p.s. wasn't keen on Biannca showing her bits....but totally get what you're saying..